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MOHA 08-29-2010 07:30 AM

Stillen Or Fast Intentions ?
 
I got confused between those two exhausts. please vote for one with a good reason.

Thanks,,,

Vegitto-kun 08-29-2010 09:20 AM

I vote for the Fast intentions exhaust.

It looks awesome and it sounds awesome. Sure it is more expensive and there is a waiting list but it is absolutely worth it

soundclip of my exhaust with stock cats.

CF mufflers and 12" resonators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWChSf8WTF4

Darkstar87695 08-29-2010 09:24 AM

I gotta vote for FI. Never once regretted buying mine.

red6spd 08-29-2010 09:53 AM

Go with the FI. I'm a very big fan of Stillen, I had there Cat-Back on my Spec-V and my Altima. But when it came to the 370Z I heard there where a lot of fitment issues the tips stuck out to far and its a little tame in the sound department. FI gives you a choice from mild with the 18in Resonated Cat-Back to wild with there Non-Resonated Cat-Back. I also think it looks better.

370Zsteve 08-29-2010 10:07 AM

Stillen or Berk

PapoZalsa 08-29-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 699152)
Go with the FI. I'm a very big fan of Stillen, I had there Cat-Back on my Spec-V and my Altima. But when it came to the 370Z I heard there where a lot of fitment issues the tips stuck out to far and its a little tame in the sound department. FI gives you a choice from mild with the 18in Resonated Cat-Back to wild with there Non-Resonated Cat-Back. I also think it looks better.

Or 12" resonator too.

Red370 08-29-2010 10:34 AM

had the Stillen, loved it, sounded great and kept a somewhat stock appearance, the FI, while great, looks very aftermarket and if you're intending on keeping a somewhat stock appearance, you can throw that out the window. They both make the same gains, so that shouldnt be an issue.

Red370 08-29-2010 10:42 AM

oh yeah, you'll also be on a waiting list for a few months. I ordered my Stillen and had it 4 days later.

Zat_Zuma 08-29-2010 10:43 AM

I've had the experience of having both.

Just my :twocents:

Stillen :thumbsdown: :barf: :gtfo2:

Fast Intentions :tup: :drool: :yum: :bowdown:

Worth the wait

370Zsteve 08-29-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 699179)
oh yeah, you'll also be on a waiting list for a few months. I ordered my Stillen and had it 4 days later.

Yup, if you are looking for instant satisfaction go with Stillen, they are a big outfit compared with the others and it WILL be in stock.

Push370zzz 08-29-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 699152)
Go with the FI. I'm a very big fan of Stillen, I had there Cat-Back on my Spec-V and my Altima. But when it came to the 370Z I heard there where a lot of fitment issues the tips stuck out to far and its a little tame in the sound department. FI gives you a choice from mild with the 18in Resonated Cat-Back to wild with there Non-Resonated Cat-Back. I also think it looks better.

Didn't have this problem at all, it was probably installed incorrectly. The sound is great, especially with some HFC's.

Jamaica 08-29-2010 12:21 PM

No berk or stillen. Fast intentions has better service and sounds the best out of the two. Plus you don't have options with berk or stillen. You have plenty of options with fast intentions.

red6spd 08-29-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 699265)
Didn't have this problem at all, it was probably installed incorrectly. The sound is great, especially with some HFC's.


Type it into the search. It was a problem with alot of the systems sold.

Holliday 08-29-2010 02:22 PM

If you don't mind a little extra cab drone, great customer service and great looking tips, go FI.

If you want a heavier, quieter exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen.

Good luck with your choice :tup:

PS: I wouldn't rule out the BERK CBE ;)

6spd 08-29-2010 02:23 PM

Fast intentions with flat black resonators FTW, thats what I have. I was turned of by stillens tips, they stick out way to far for my taste.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/_MG_5104.jpg

Holliday 08-29-2010 02:25 PM

I like the "mufflers" painted black. It looks really clean. Nice Job 6spd!

6spd 08-29-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 699375)
I like the "mufflers" painted black. It looks really clean. Nice Job 6spd!

thank you sir! even though i like being the only person with this done, i would like to see i more often, it looks better imo.

Push370zzz 08-29-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 699321)
Type it into the search. It was a problem with alot of the systems sold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 699372)
If you don't mind a little extra cab drone, great customer service and great looking tips, go FI.

If you want a heavier, quieter exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen.

Good luck with your choice :tup:

PS: I wouldn't rule out the BERK CBE ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 699373)
Fast intentions with flat black resonators FTW, thats what I have. I was turned of by stillens tips, they stick out way to far for my taste.

I understand many people had this problem, but here is how mine when on on the first try. Yes, they stuck out a bit when you fist hang it which is why I pushed the exhaust onto the hangars and slip fittings until it was all in place. If you put your HFCs on the wrong side, you would probably have some fitment issues too ;)

Elia Cid 08-29-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 699372)
If you don't mind a little extra cab drone, great customer service and great looking tips, go FI.

If you want a heavier, quieter exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen.

Good luck with your choice :tup:

PS: I wouldn't rule out the BERK CBE ;)

:iagree:

"exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen." A little bit over the top don’t you think! :shakes head:

Stillen are not quieter they just sound nicer and richer, minus drone IMO.

Will provide sound clip once mines are installed! See link http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...exhaust-2.html :tup:

Alex

G Fo12ce 08-29-2010 05:18 PM

Both seem to be popular. You should consider the HKS too. I like mine and AK did a nice write up on his here:
HKS Exhaust

BOLIO 671 08-29-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 699160)
Stillen or Berk

:icon18: :iagree:

But since Berk was not included, I definately would go with FI over the Stillen...just for the same reasons that everyone else has already mentioned...

Mora 08-29-2010 05:43 PM

I would go with FI because:

-the "customer service" is fantastic.
-the system is lighter than Stillen's solution.
-You can choose how much it will be loud.

Elia Cid 08-29-2010 07:43 PM

My money's on Stillen CBE , :tup:

New Stillen CBE should arrive on Wednesday of next week the 1st, FedEx tracking, thanks Max@Stillen.

CBE are being installed by my Nissan dealership to go with my newly installed Stillen G3 intakes they also installed , let me say they did a great install. :tiphat:

I want to hear Stillen CBE for a while before deciding to install HFC or not , if i do I'll most likely go with Berk's HFC.

I'll try to post a sound video then.

Stay tuned,

Alex

Holliday 08-29-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid (Post 699476)
:iagree:

"exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen." A little bit over the top don’t you think! :shakes head:

Stillen are not quieter they just sound nicer and richer, minus drone IMO.

Will provide sound clip once mines are installed! See link http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...exhaust-2.html :tup:

Alex

From a non-bias opinion, I think the tips stick out to far IMO. GTM makes a nice exhaust but the tips don't do it for me. Stillen is still a good exhaust and you can always have the tips aligned or changed out for that matter. After doing all my research on CBE Stillen was deemed heavy, expensive, and ugly tips" in my book. I am not trying to rain on anybodies parade so take all this as someones opinion. Good luck with your install Alex.

MOHA 08-30-2010 12:10 AM

Thanks you guys. i'm ordering the FI. but what is the difference between Non Resonated, 12 Res and 18 Res ?

Jamaica 08-30-2010 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOHA (Post 700043)
Thanks you guys. i'm ordering the FI. but what is the difference between Non Resonated, 12 Res and 18 Res ?

Good choice. Non resnonated is the loudest. 12 res is in the middle and 18 res is a little bit louder.

Push370zzz 08-30-2010 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 699992)
From a non-bias opinion, I think the tips stick out to far IMO. GTM makes a nice exhaust but the tips don't do it for me. Stillen is still a good exhaust and you can always have the tips aligned or changed out for that matter. After doing all my research on CBE Stillen was deemed heavy, expensive, and ugly tips" in my book. I am not trying to rain on anybodies parade so take all this as someones opinion. Good luck with your install Alex.

You can adjust them from being about an inch before the cutouts to four inches or so past them...I don't get why everybody is acting like this is a drawback when it is just a poor installation job!! Not liking the tips is one thing and subjective so whatever, but they fit perfect with about a minute or two of alignment :confused:

WGJB 08-30-2010 04:21 AM

About Stillen
 
Greetings all.

I'm fairly new to this forum and this is my first reply. I installed a Stillen Cat-back and Berk HFCs. Stillen because it is not lower than stock and Berk because they are OBDII compliant. The sound is not quiet, for me, and I would not want it any louder. Fitment on the Stillen is poor, at best. The left tip was perfectly centered and the right tip was inboard one half inch. Also, the tips are not equal fore and aft. The mechanic who installed the system said there is no adjustment, so I took it to a custom exhaust specialist of 34 years. He was able to heat and tweek the hangers to get the tips equally misaligned. Fore and aft, no. The other option was to cut and reweld the tips, which I didn't do yet.

Stillen's answer was "sorry, you mounted and ran the exhuast, we will not take it back." So basically their return policy is, if you don't like the way it looks in the box, send it back. Thanks, Max and Chuck at Stillen. Pesonally I will no longer support Stillen for their lack of support regarding their product.

I am also sorry my first reply is negative feedback. I've been following this forum since March of this year and purchased my 2010 370Z in May. I do like this forum and love my Z.

Regards,

Elia Cid 08-30-2010 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 699992)
From a non-bias opinion, I think the tips stick out to far IMO. GTM makes a nice exhaust but the tips don't do it for me. Stillen is still a good exhaust and you can always have the tips aligned or changed out for that matter. After doing all my research on CBE Stillen was deemed heavy, expensive, and ugly tips" in my book. I am not trying to rain on anybodies parade so take all this as someones opinion. Good luck with your install Alex.

Everyone's entitled to their own research and opinion, that being said , you could have just said Stillen just don’t do it for you, for whatever reasons in a better way IMO , but when you start using words like “ridiculously “ to describe those reason that a different issue!

“If you want a heavier, quieter exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen.” Sorry in my book that’s over the top!

And no you didn’t rain on my parade; I’m very much looking forward to having the Stillen exhaust installed.

The exhaust will be here tomorrow, and installed the next day.

As I said I’ll try to post a video sound clip.

Alex

redroadster10 08-30-2010 06:34 AM

i have the fi 18" on my roadster and love the exhaust so moha your making a great choice by going fi over stillen

Elia Cid 08-30-2010 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WGJB (Post 700127)
Greetings all.

I'm fairly new to this forum and this is my first reply. I installed a Stillen Cat-back and Berk HFCs. Stillen because it is not lower than stock and Berk because they are OBDII compliant. The sound is not quiet, for me, and I would not want it any louder. Fitment on the Stillen is poor, at best. The left tip was perfectly centered and the right tip was inboard one half inch. Also, the tips are not equal fore and aft. The mechanic who installed the system said there is no adjustment, so I took it to a custom exhaust specialist of 34 years. He was able to heat and tweek the hangers to get the tips equally misaligned. Fore and aft, no. The other option was to cut and reweld the tips, which I didn't do yet.

Stillen's answer was "sorry, you mounted and ran the exhuast, we will not take it back." So basically their return policy is, if you don't like the way it looks in the box, send it back. Thanks, Max and Chuck at Stillen. Pesonally I will no longer support Stillen for their lack of support regarding their product.

I am also sorry my first reply is negative feedback. I've been following this forum since March of this year and purchased my 2010 370Z in May. I do like this forum and love my Z.

Regards,

Well let me just say "Welcome" this is a great forum ! :tiphat:

I’m really sorry to read about your experience with Stillen's CBE.

Have you tried to reach out to Josh@Stillen who is often on these boards?

If that’s the case, IMO it just would have made good customer service sense, just to have swap out that part at least!

I’m just trying to figure out how to determine you have a fitment issue without installing first? :confused:

That being said, thanks, for the heads up, I will certainly look at my exhaust shipment tomorrow.

Good luck,

Alex

Holliday 08-30-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 700064)
Good choice. Non resnonated is the loudest. 12 res is in the middle and 18 res is a little bit louder.

FYI: The 18" is quieter than the 12" due to the extra length, that makes it quieter;)

Holliday 08-30-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 700116)
You can adjust them from being about an inch before the cutouts to four inches or so past them...I don't get why everybody is acting like this is a drawback when it is just a poor installation job!! Not liking the tips is one thing and subjective so whatever, but they fit perfect with about a minute or two of alignment :confused:

Glad you like yours. I don't like the tips (personal opinion) and it looks like WGJB had issues like others have.

The OP will have "0" fitment issues with the FI CBE. Good choice ;)

Red370 08-30-2010 02:23 PM

ahh, another exhaust thread turns into a VS. thread, since we're all giving opinions, I think any exhaust with a fart can muffler looks riced out as fvck, but hey, thats my opinion :tup:

Congrats on your purchase Moha, its a nice sounding setup, hope you dont mind the drone though, because with any setup offered, it has it.

MOHA 08-30-2010 02:38 PM

Thank you all for helping me to decide to go for the FI over Stillen. but i'm confused about one more thing which is the loudness of the FI, so i posted a thread to help people like me to decide.

Regards,,:tiphat:

Push370zzz 08-30-2010 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 700284)
Glad you like yours. I don't like the tips (personal opinion) and it looks like WGJB had issues like others have.

The OP will have "0" fitment issues with the FI CBE. Good choice ;)

:rolleyes:

I love the FI exhaust's look and sound, but more $, same gains, and god knows if I'd still have the car by the time it got here is what drove me to the Stillen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WGJB (Post 700127)
Greetings all.

I'm fairly new to this forum and this is my first reply. I installed a Stillen Cat-back and Berk HFCs. Stillen because it is not lower than stock and Berk because they are OBDII compliant. The sound is not quiet, for me, and I would not want it any louder. Fitment on the Stillen is poor, at best. The left tip was perfectly centered and the right tip was inboard one half inch. Also, the tips are not equal fore and aft. The mechanic who installed the system said there is no adjustment, so I took it to a custom exhaust specialist of 34 years. He was able to heat and tweek the hangers to get the tips equally misaligned. Fore and aft, no. The other option was to cut and reweld the tips, which I didn't do yet.

Stillen's answer was "sorry, you mounted and ran the exhuast, we will not take it back." So basically their return policy is, if you don't like the way it looks in the box, send it back. Thanks, Max and Chuck at Stillen. Pesonally I will no longer support Stillen for their lack of support regarding their product.

I am also sorry my first reply is negative feedback. I've been following this forum since March of this year and purchased my 2010 370Z in May. I do like this forum and love my Z.

Regards,

I am honestly shocked that he was unable to align it correctly if somebody with absolutely no experience with exhausts was able to mount it with the same protrusion as the stock exhaust in 60 seconds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid (Post 700136)
Everyone's entitled to their own research and opinion, that being said , you could have just said Stillen just don’t do it for you, for whatever reasons in a better way IMO , but when you start using words like “ridiculously “ to describe those reason that a different issue!

“If you want a heavier, quieter exhaust that has ridiculously large tips that stick past the bumper, get Stillen.” Sorry in my book that’s over the top!

And no you didn’t rain on my parade; I’m very much looking forward to having the Stillen exhaust installed.

The exhaust will be here tomorrow, and installed the next day.

As I said I’ll try to post a video sound clip.

Alex

You'll love it :tup:

BOLIO 671 08-30-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WGJB (Post 700127)
Greetings all.

I'm fairly new to this forum and this is my first reply. I installed a Stillen Cat-back and Berk HFCs. Stillen because it is not lower than stock and Berk because they are OBDII compliant. The sound is not quiet, for me, and I would not want it any louder. Fitment on the Stillen is poor, at best. The left tip was perfectly centered and the right tip was inboard one half inch. Also, the tips are not equal fore and aft. The mechanic who installed the system said there is no adjustment, so I took it to a custom exhaust specialist of 34 years. He was able to heat and tweek the hangers to get the tips equally misaligned. Fore and aft, no. The other option was to cut and reweld the tips, which I didn't do yet.

Stillen's answer was "sorry, you mounted and ran the exhuast, we will not take it back." So basically their return policy is, if you don't like the way it looks in the box, send it back. Thanks, Max and Chuck at Stillen. Pesonally I will no longer support Stillen for their lack of support regarding their product.

I am also sorry my first reply is negative feedback. I've been following this forum since March of this year and purchased my 2010 370Z in May. I do like this forum and love my Z.

Regards,


Greeting WB and Welcome to the Forum!!! :tiphat:

Sorry to hear what you went through with Stillen, and I would feel the same if I was you...

Don't be sorry for having a negative reply on your first post...Thanks a lot for keeping it real...That's what this forum is all about...to give honest and unbias opinions to other members so that they don't experience the bad stuff on their own...I know when I first bought my Z I wanted so many parts, but after becoming a member of this forum, I came to realize that what I wanted (as far as parts/performance) wasn't going to work for me...There's a lot of members here that have contributed to reviews, and have saved alot of us a lot of time and $$$$....

G Fo12ce 08-30-2010 07:03 PM

There are a few criteria that I have for an aftermarket exhaust. I don't want to go over them all. But the one area I think could have been improved on the Stillen design was the wieght. I don't think an aftermarket system should ever be heavier than the stock one.

Elia Cid 08-30-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 701043)
There are a few criteria that I have for an aftermarket exhaust. I don't want to go over them all. But the one area I think could have been improved on the Stillen design was the wieght. I don't think an aftermarket system should ever be heavier than the stock one.

I curious to know how much the Stillen weigh vs let’s say HKS, or Bark’s and F.I. any numbers?

theDreamer 08-30-2010 07:16 PM

Stock - 54lbs
Berk - 63.2lbs
F.I. - 41-47lbs
Stillen - 65.3lbs


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