No problem, I understand about sticking to quality parts. AFE has been around a bit and makes a decent filter. I compared it to the stock filters and its even sturdier than they are so I felt comfortable putting them in.

For the Cobb tubes, doesn't the corrugated tube also reduce noise in the intake along with the flexibility? It's interesting to me that there is a black resonator-looking box on the driver side OEM corrugated intake. It's directly below the side feed for the PCV vent (I think thats what the side connection is). Wonder if this was tuned to keep the intake quieter, not that I dont want to hear the growl. :happydance:

Are the Cobb tubes larger than stock? If so, then what may be happening is that you are running a litter more lean now and gaining some power that way, which is good. But when combined with all the other bolt ons you will be running too lean and thats not good. At that point you will need a tune to bring things back in line.

I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'.

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

true dat. and better throttle response and a few extra hp is worth the $$$.

I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Ive used them in my last three cars and never had a MAF issue, again I think its a matter of the owner over oiling them when they clean them. But the difference between oil and non oil filters is probably so small it wont matter which one you use as long as it flows good. But the dry ones might not trap stuff as well as the oiled ones. tit for tat I guess.

I believe K&N actually makes the Mine's.. I'm 99% sure they do for the GT-R, just a different colored oil, and on the GT-R they added some metal rings to it, but basically it's a K&N with a hefty price tag on it, and blue oil of course. :)

I need to find a product I can make subtle changes to and charge 3x the price. This is a brilliant plan.

Prove it! :)

Unfortunately this has evolved over the internet as an 'old wives tale'.. and a lot of stories of "my buddy" or "i know a guy who had MAF problems".

K&N has been riddled by this, and has done tremendous testing and have a full department devoted to oil and the effects on the MAF to fight these accusations.

A good read from their site outlining this: K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

"Not one of these suspected MAF sensors sent in for laboratory evaluation was shown to have failed due to contamination from K&N filter oil. "

I haven't bought a K&N product in years, but they use to have a graph on the side of the box with their own CFM flow test numbers that demonstrated better flow with the K&N vs. paper, but on the same graph they had a line for reused, or reoiled K&N filters that showed significant flow restriction vs. paper. I tried googling for that graph, but can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was there though.

you prove it. lol I do know that I get 400 GPS with my K&Ns each but I dont know what the stock ones did as I did this with my Cobb AP after zI got the K&Ns. But Im sure the K&Ns have a higher flow rate than stock.

I thought this was great:

http://intensepower.com/120.html