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GTLAW 07-07-2010 11:44 AM

Mines - VX Air Filter
 
Hey guys,

I am looking to keep my stock intakes, because they to me are best" unless I want a lot sound coming the front of my car IMO. I am going to keep the stock intakes and build around them, I would like to see what the numbers are after all my updates.

I am looking at replacing the stock OEM air filters, I did not want to go K&N do to Oil and I feel with all the R&D now days they should not still be using oil base filters.

Does anyone have the Mines filters? also I am unable to find any specs on them if they are a dry flow or oil base like K&N.

Mines - VX Air Filter are the name 370ZTUNE.com has them listed but no specs.

Also will be doing the COBB Post MAF Hoses for smoother air flow.
;)

Daishi 07-07-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 610330)
Hey guys,

I am looking to keep my stock intakes, because they to me are best unless I want a lot sound coming the front of my car. I'm going to keep the stock intakes and build around them and see what the numbers are after all my updates.

I am looking at replacing the stock OEM air filters, I did not want to go K&N do to Oil and I feel with all the R&D now days they should not still be using oil base filters.

Does anyone have the mines filters? also I unable to find any specs on them if they are an dry flow or oil base like K&N.

Mines - VX Air Filter are the name 370ZTUNE.com has them listed but no specs.

Also will be doing the COBB Post MAF Hoses for smoother air flow.
;)

I wouldnt waste your money on the mines filter. Waayyy overpriced.

Cmike2780 07-07-2010 11:47 AM

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...tml#post593325

GTLAW 07-07-2010 11:49 AM

Well, there is not to much out there for stock replacement. If they are dry flow I would pay the money. I do not want K&N.


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Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 610332)
I wouldnt waste your money on the mines filter. Waayyy overpriced.


phelan 07-07-2010 12:04 PM

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Made of three layers of cotton, aluminum mesh, and a special oil, the VX Air Filter provides excellent air filtration without causing any turbulence in the airflow. By increasing the air mass (170% compared with the stock filter), this product alone can improve your power by 3 to 5 hp. However, combined with VX-ROM, the power improvement will be more impressive.
Looks like they lube'd up their filters too :icon17:

Cmike2780 07-07-2010 12:09 PM

Any reason why you wouldn't go with K&N? You won't really gain much, if any. The stock intake is already a CAI, so I understand why you would like to keep it. For the amount the VX filters usually go by, over $350 (last time a looked a few weeks back) you could buy a long tube or replace the airbox. I was a little hesitant on using the K&N at first, but really, oil based filters are just as good as long as you know how to oil it properly. The VX also uses oil.

http://www.the370z.com/swat-performa...ilter-set.html

efuseakay 07-07-2010 01:05 PM

I'd just stick with the OEM filters if you aren't going to get a full system.

hfrog355 07-07-2010 02:31 PM

No oil performance filter. Have at it and let us know how it goes. I've run into one or two around the forum that have this and they seem happy. When I need to replace my filter, this is the direction I am going.

AFE Pro-Dry S

I think you'd be insane to pay the money they want for the Mine's filters. There is a zero percent chance they are $300+ more effective than the stock filters. The benefit of slightly boosting your performance with higher flowing filters and tubes and not installing Stillen G3's or some other long tube setup is saving the cash and time needed for install. If you're going to blow $450+ on your intake (Mine's+COBB tubes), you might as well quit screwing around and just get a complete system.

Zsteve 07-07-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 610337)
Well, there is not to much out there for stock replacement. If they are dry flow I would pay the money. I do not want K&N.

I think you should do your own DD on the K&N filters and not go by what you heard on the internet. K&N has sold over a million filters and I dont think a million cars have been screwed up by them. Just saying. But I do understand personal preference.

'10Anamoly 07-08-2010 08:45 AM

I have the AFE Pro-Dry filters and the Cobb Post-MAF tubes with my stock airboxes. Works great, no issues and a decent boost in kick in the higher rpms that I have noticed (nothing huge, but noticeable).

hfrog355 07-08-2010 09:45 AM

That's the setup I'm shooting for, but I'm going to milk my stock air filters for a little while longer.

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly (Post 611851)
I have the AFE Pro-Dry filters and the Cobb Post-MAF tubes with my stock airboxes. Works great, no issues and a decent boost in kick in the higher rpms that I have noticed (nothing huge, but noticeable).


GZ3 07-08-2010 11:11 AM

am still wating for blitz to make thier for our cars, dry High flow drop ins, I ve tried looking but no luck.

'10Anamoly 07-08-2010 11:14 AM

At 7000 miles mine were already dirty and there was a HUGE leaf in front of my passenger side intake. Found all of that out when I put the AFEs in. Maybe I gained power since I went anti-leaf, lol :excited: Anyways, you might pull the filters and check them. Can always buy the AFEs when the others need replacing.

'10Anamoly 07-08-2010 11:16 AM

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am still wating for blitz to make thier for our cars, dry High flow drop ins, I ve tried looking but no luck.
AFE Pro-Drys are pretty good and are about $96 shipped for two (oil free high flow dry filters). Why wait?

You can get them from AutoAnything, the link was posted previously.

GZ3 07-08-2010 11:21 AM

I'll take a look at those man, thnx I just always had brand loyalty and never really heard of AEF

'10Anamoly 07-08-2010 11:32 AM

No problem, I understand about sticking to quality parts. AFE has been around a bit and makes a decent filter. I compared it to the stock filters and its even sturdier than they are so I felt comfortable putting them in.

For the Cobb tubes, doesn't the corrugated tube also reduce noise in the intake along with the flexibility? It's interesting to me that there is a black resonator-looking box on the driver side OEM corrugated intake. It's directly below the side feed for the PCV vent (I think thats what the side connection is). Wonder if this was tuned to keep the intake quieter, not that I dont want to hear the growl. :happydance:

Zsteve 07-08-2010 02:44 PM

Are the Cobb tubes larger than stock? If so, then what may be happening is that you are running a litter more lean now and gaining some power that way, which is good. But when combined with all the other bolt ons you will be running too lean and thats not good. At that point you will need a tune to bring things back in line.

spearfish25 07-08-2010 02:56 PM

I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'.

GZ3 07-08-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 612489)
I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'.

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

Zsteve 07-08-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 612501)
they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

true dat. and better throttle response and a few extra hp is worth the $$$.

CBRich 07-08-2010 04:08 PM

I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Zsteve 07-08-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 612628)
I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Ive used them in my last three cars and never had a MAF issue, again I think its a matter of the owner over oiling them when they clean them. But the difference between oil and non oil filters is probably so small it wont matter which one you use as long as it flows good. But the dry ones might not trap stuff as well as the oiled ones. tit for tat I guess.

Josh@STILLEN 07-08-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 610330)
Hey guys,

I am looking to keep my stock intakes, because they to me are best" unless I want a lot sound coming the front of my car IMO. I am going to keep the stock intakes and build around them, I would like to see what the numbers are after all my updates.

I am looking at replacing the stock OEM air filters, I did not want to go K&N do to Oil and I feel with all the R&D now days they should not still be using oil base filters.

Does anyone have the Mines filters? also I am unable to find any specs on them if they are a dry flow or oil base like K&N.

I believe K&N actually makes the Mine's.. I'm 99% sure they do for the GT-R, just a different colored oil, and on the GT-R they added some metal rings to it, but basically it's a K&N with a hefty price tag on it, and blue oil of course. :)

hfrog355 07-08-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 612678)
I believe K&N actually makes the Mine's.. I'm 99% sure they do for the GT-R, just a different colored oil, and on the GT-R they added some metal rings to it, but basically it's a K&N with a hefty price tag on it, and blue oil of course. :)

I need to find a product I can make subtle changes to and charge 3x the price. This is a brilliant plan.

spearfish25 07-08-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 612501)
they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

Prove it! :)

Josh@STILLEN 07-08-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 612628)
I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Unfortunately this has evolved over the internet as an 'old wives tale'.. and a lot of stories of "my buddy" or "i know a guy who had MAF problems".

K&N has been riddled by this, and has done tremendous testing and have a full department devoted to oil and the effects on the MAF to fight these accusations.

A good read from their site outlining this: K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

"Not one of these suspected MAF sensors sent in for laboratory evaluation was shown to have failed due to contamination from K&N filter oil. "

JACKPAC 07-08-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 612501)
they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

I haven't bought a K&N product in years, but they use to have a graph on the side of the box with their own CFM flow test numbers that demonstrated better flow with the K&N vs. paper, but on the same graph they had a line for reused, or reoiled K&N filters that showed significant flow restriction vs. paper. I tried googling for that graph, but can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was there though.

Zsteve 07-08-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 612837)
Prove it! :)

you prove it. lol I do know that I get 400 GPS with my K&Ns each but I dont know what the stock ones did as I did this with my Cobb AP after zI got the K&Ns. But Im sure the K&Ns have a higher flow rate than stock.

hfrog355 08-25-2010 03:38 PM

I thought this was great:

http://intensepower.com/120.html


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