ERZ HFC Performance

Zsteve · 06-19-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan1016

Most of the time money buys quality simple as that. There is a reason these cats are 300 dollars cheaper, if ERZ could sell them for that much they would.

you are forgetting about mass production and hand production when it comes to price. ERZ is mass produced overseas while Fi and Berk are hand made or done by small companies and that caused prices to raise. I bet the ERZ and the others will all fair the same, HFCs fail eventually anyway. I think you can find plenty of examples where something that cost more doesnt do better than the cheaper ones and Im not just talking car products but all products. More money doesnt always mean better.

Daishi · 06-19-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

you are forgetting about mass production and hand production when it comes to price. ERZ is mass produced overseas while Fi and Berk are hand made or done by small companies and that caused prices to raise. I bet the ERZ and the others will all fair the same, HFCs fail eventually anyway. I think you can find plenty of examples where something that cost more doesnt do better than the cheaper ones and Im not just talking car products but all products. More money doesnt always mean better.

Not always but most of the time yes.. I can vouch for FI's attention to detail as well..

nolan1016 · 06-19-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

you are forgetting about mass production and hand production when it comes to price. ERZ is mass produced overseas while Fi and Berk are hand made or done by small companies and that caused prices to raise. I bet the ERZ and the others will all fair the same, HFCs fail eventually anyway. I think you can find plenty of examples where something that cost more doesnt do better than the cheaper ones and Im not just talking car products but all products. More money doesnt always mean better.

Thats true, and how many times as money bought superior quality and longevity. There will always be exceptions but its like anything, TV, appliances. You never know until it fails

daleks · 06-19-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

you are forgetting about mass production and hand production when it comes to price. ERZ is mass produced overseas while Fi and Berk are hand made or done by small companies and that caused prices to raise. I bet the ERZ and the others will all fair the same, HFCs fail eventually anyway. I think you can find plenty of examples where something that cost more doesnt do better than the cheaper ones and Im not just talking car products but all products. More money doesnt always mean better.

Mass produced? What are you talking about? The products are made overseas the same way they are made here: a human being holding a welder. Or are you arguing that ERZ has a factory full of automated robots? Or maybe there is a huge benefit by having one welder just for the triple bolt flange and another for the Y-pipe side? Separation of responsibilities leads to a narrower, but more efficient work process? Right...

Quality construction matters to most people, even if it doesn't have a functional impact. No one is saying that for $300 you don't get a functional product, but why are you trying to say that it is just as good as the $500 products? It's not. At that price point you don't have pitted and warped flanges, misaligned bolt holes for the cross support, and crooked welds.

Zsteve · 06-19-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by daleks

Mass produced? What are you talking about? The products are made overseas the same way they are made here: a human being holding a welder. Or are you arguing that ERZ has a factory full of automated robots? Or maybe there is a huge benefit by having one welder just for the triple bolt flange and another for the Y-pipe side? Separation of responsibilities leads to a narrower, but more efficient work process? Right...

Quality construction matters to most people, even if it doesn't have a functional impact. No one is saying that for $300 you don't get a functional product, but why are you trying to say that it is just as good as the $500 products? It's not. At that price point you don't have pitted and warped flanges, misaligned bolt holes for the cross support, and crooked welds.

prove it. you know nothing about economics man. you can go and pay extra for something that can do the same thing for less, its a free world. Companies need customers like you. And by being made overseas there are more people welding them for less money. Just like Nike shoes.

You probably buy BP gas for more than everyone else buys thier gas for. But I aint mad at ya.

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