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phelan 03-22-2010 12:25 AM

Amuse R1 Titan Extra STTI Exhaust - Review (pics/vids/dyno)
 
Hey all,

So as Mike@370ZTUNE posted in a different "teaser thread", I went ahead and bought the Amuse R1 Titan Extra STTi exhaust. I think we all know who Powerhouse Amuse is by now, so I won't waste any time. I had pretty high expectations for this exhaust, and it's certainly lived up to my expectations of power, sound...and taking a huge swipe at my wallet :facepalm:

Thanks to:
Hunter/Mike@370ZTUNE for getting me this exhaust and putting up with my pestering,
Casey/Rich@AEPerformance for setting me up with a kickass dyno / local shop, and
Daniel/Randy@Performance Associates for doing all the dirty work, and humoring me while I hung out for more than four hours. Stand up shop that, despite their obvious bias to domestics (:p) I will be going back for future dyno pulls.
Rounds on me, guys!

Picture post:

Off to Performance Associates. My Z is a bit out of place...
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1466/dsc05580.jpg

Stock exhaust...no more! It's scrap now lol
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5807/dsc05585o.jpg

Glamor shot
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7338/dsc05588q.jpg

Makes the stock exhaust look real ugly.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5011/dsc05593e.jpg

Yay! Installed! No adjustments needed (nor really possible, it's all pretty much set in stone...)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/374/dsc05609a.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6496/dsc05610.jpg

Tips...
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9374/dsc05611r.jpg
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2968/dsc05607m.jpg

Still on the lift...took me 30 minutes to wipe it down to make sure it was fingerprint / oil free. Dammit Mike, you made me paranoid :p Daniel (the installer) had a laugh at my expense too
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7992/dsc05604a.jpg

Ready for another dyno!
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9193/dsc05564x.jpg

Final product:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5378/dsc05616a.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8093/dsc05617a.jpg

Next post for dyno videos...

phelan 03-22-2010 12:26 AM

Before dyno
(Setup: Injen CAI, Stock Headers, Fast Intentions High Flow Cats, Stock Y-Pipe, Stock Exhaust):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt2-qo-8PRY

After dyno
(Setup: Injen CAI, Stock Headers, Fast Intentions High Flow Cats, Stock Y-Pipe, Amuse R1 Titan Extra Exhaust):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGC8Ug2nq4g

More to come when I find a better video camera...because mine really doesn't do this exhaust any justice at all...


Dyno Graph, Before
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7...base032210.jpg

Dyno Table, Before
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4...able032210.jpg

Dyno Graph, After (Stock Y-Pipe)
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3...muse032210.jpg

Dyno Table, After (Stock Y-Pipe)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2...able032210.jpg

NOTE: Look @ the after dyno graph (fuzzy as it is). Had a really weird blip at the end of the dyno run. The exhaust...wasn't tapering off yet...:icon14:. Also, not sure what the effect is, but I did modify the secondary piping from standard Amuse layout (see post below).

Still, conservative, we'll call +15hp, +8tq, per weather corrected numbers. In case you wanted to know, this was done on a Mustang dyno.

phelan 03-22-2010 12:27 AM

Using the same review system as my old F.I. thread... (see Tony? I'm still plugging for ya, bro!)

For those of you who do not know, the R1 Titan Extra STTi uses a single 3" main pipe split into 2" secondary pipes. Since my future big mod will be a supercharger of some sorts, I asked Amuse to enlarge the pipes as they saw fit to support forced induction. So I have an atypical 3" -> 2.5" pipe setup with 4.5" tips. Note that my exhaust "sound clip" and dyno results may differ from yours!

Also note: the R1 Titan Extra STTi, as it is sold, does NOT include a midpipe. Hence why I'm stuck with the stock Y-pipe for a while.

Anyway, final impressions:

Looks: 9.5/10. It's Amuse. AMUSE! The quality of the welds had the people at Performance Associates (and myself) drooling. It's as if they were machine welds. Meticulous attention to detail in each and every segment of the exhaust. Amuse has the ability to burn out the entire tips blue if you want, but I thought it'd look kind of weird on a red car. So slightly burnt tips it is! I can't write enough about how dazzled I am by how this exhaust looks. Added bonus: Amuse guaranteed on their website that the new exhaust is no lower than stock. Well...yes, it's not, and they've still managed to show off a good deal of the canisters. No, it's not a very 'original' design, but certainly great to look at. Now if they could just use a little thicker titanium on the tips...

Installation: 10/10. No adjustments were necessary, Daniel had the stock off and the new Amuse exhaust on in fifteen minutes. I then proceeded to wipe down the entire exhaust for the next 30-40 minutes to get rid of all the fingerprints and oils. Yay for being nitpicky!

Sound: 9/10. Well...I've been through the F.I. exhaust (hope you're liking that exhaust Danny,wherever the hell you are), and as it's the most popular exhaust here, the question pops up 'How do they compare?' If I can use a terrible metaphor, the Amuse exhaust is a classical symphony to Fast Intention's rock concert. Both are great, but they're for different crowds...lol, what, it works!

The main things I've noticed with the Amuse exhaust:
  • At startup, the exhaust immediately makes itself known with a nice throaty roar.
  • At idle, you barely know it's there. Seriously, it's quiet in the cabin again, which was weird for a while, but I've grown to really like it. The exhaust will happily burble every so often, but otherwise it's perfectly content to sit there and puff away. If you're looking for something that howls even when you're idling, look elsewhere.
  • The sound is 'cleaner' on the Amuse exhaust. It starts docile, then unleashes an insane storm when you stomp on the accelerator. The sound is higher than the Fast Intentions; more of an 'exotic' than F.I.
  • CONCLUSION: Simply put, they're two different beasts, and (provided you have the financial flexibility to be considering both options) you can't go wrong either way.

Weight: 10/10. Added this category as a 'kudo'-point to make. The stock system, measured at Performance Associates, weighted it at a whopping 46 lbs. 46 lbs, not include the Y-pipe. Holy ****! Here's what Mike sent me with the Amuse stuff (with packing material on it...)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6...1003151604.jpg
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7...1003151602.jpg

5.8 + 13.6 = 19.4 lbs. Subtract that away from 46, you get...uh...26.6 lbs weight savings. I think I did my math right...but anyway, it was really light.

Performance: 8.5/10. Haven't driven it enough to get a feel for it, and the ECU hasn't had time to settle in yet, but the car is definitely kicking again. Check out the dyno above (as of this post, not there yet, but I'll get the graphs up soon!), the car was maxed out on the test and still hungry to make more power! I can hear Jeremy Clarkson and his trademark, "POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR". Now then, about that supercharger... (just kidding...for now!)

Final Thought: I love this exhaust. I also reserve the right to update my posts once my midpipe gets in!

Feel free to ask any questions you guys might have :) Thanks!

SoCal 370Z 03-22-2010 12:31 AM

:tup: Da, damn! Holy high-end exhaust!

BOLIO 671 03-22-2010 12:31 AM

Nice Pics...can't wait to see Vids and Dyno results...Is everything from your headers to Y-pipe still stock?

zman1910 03-22-2010 01:00 AM

Hopefully you got great gains bc I actually think the first vid sounds better or at least more throaty.

Aesthetically speaking I give that exhaust :tup::tup:

SoCal 370Z 03-22-2010 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 458347)
Hopefully you got great gains bc I actually think the first vid sounds better or at least more throaty.

If you look at the placement angles, he was closer to the Z in the first video (more throatier is to be expected in the first vid). This sound is pure sex. Look at those cans, man!!!!!

Red370 03-22-2010 01:06 AM

a single pipe? oooh... interesting, in for dyno results!

blue660r01 03-22-2010 01:17 AM

Sick faylun!

370zproject 03-22-2010 06:24 AM

:tup::happydance::yum::yum::eek2::postwhore::drivi ng:

vipor 03-22-2010 09:45 AM

looks and sounds good :tup:

theDreamer 03-22-2010 09:49 AM

I need my dyno results. :D

NYBladeZ 03-22-2010 09:53 AM

wow these dyno results will go a long way in answering the question what's better a true dual or a single larger pipe. Phelan how big is the diameter on the tubing for the single mid pipe?

semtex 03-22-2010 10:06 AM

Nice! Congrats, Phelan! Now you can show up to your cosplay parties in uber style man! :tup:

Endgame 03-22-2010 10:08 AM

cosplay is cool...... nice stuff phelan!!! waiting for dyno numbers..

StLRedrider 03-22-2010 10:17 AM

Sweet as hell phelan, congrats!!!!!!!!!

chuckd05 03-22-2010 12:52 PM

very nice.. i found all the exhuasts out of 4 I had on my old G , I enjoyed the sound/performance out of degisn like this one ... The nismo for the G35/350z actualy made power and sounded sick.. It was designed like that one but with the single nissan type muffler..

in for dyno results...

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 01:15 PM

hoping for more videos with better quality because I am feeling quite dissapointed at the sound

drisko 03-22-2010 03:04 PM

Phelan,

Just out of curiosity, what happened to your F.I. exhaust?

F.I. Inc. 03-22-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drisko (Post 459050)
Phelan,

Just out of curiosity, what happened to your F.I. exhaust?

He took it off and sold it. He told me that it was becoming too popular and wanted something where few had it.

Ha, ha, ha!!! We are still good to go in my book.

On another note, how have you been bud?

Tony

FuszNissan 03-22-2010 03:36 PM

I should smack you for having a stock y-pipe

phelan 03-22-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 459087)
I should smack you for having a stock y-pipe

but you can't reach me, nyah nyah :p

(but yes, y-pipe...that'll be fixed soon, trust me)



and yes, Tony, your exhaust was such a hit, i see more F.I. exhausts than stock... :bowrofl: whens that customer appreciation day goin' down??

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 03:44 PM

uck my dad might want to buy this since he also drives the 370Z.

price wont be a problem since he already bought a akrapovic exhaust for his GT-R and that was around this price.

FuszNissan 03-22-2010 03:44 PM

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...kJamesSlap.gif

BLUESLATE 03-22-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 459102)
uck my dad might want to buy this since he also drives the 370Z.

price wont be a problem since he already bought a akrapovic exhaust for his GT-R and that was around this price.

:ugh2:

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 03:58 PM

I just don't like how it looks. bleh.

and from the vids it doesn't even sound that great

phelan 03-22-2010 04:01 PM

My camera's a piece of ****, keep that in mind. Also, I have absolutely NO idea how dramatic the effect is, but I did ask Amuse to enlarge the secondary piping by a half inch so I can still use it after I go for a supercharger kit. So my results may not be an accurate reflection of what a "normal" R1 Extra will sound like.

Vegitto, it's been explained time and again, if you don't like the burnt tips, you can ask for without.

I'm still tied up with work, I'll work on writing up everything in a bit.

vipor 03-22-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 459103)

What did the five fingers say to the face?





































































SLAP!

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...kJamesSlap.gif

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 459126)
My camera's a piece of ****, keep that in mind. Also, I have absolutely NO idea how dramatic the effect is, but I did ask Amuse to enlarge the secondary piping by a half inch so I can still use it after I go for a supercharger kit. So my results may not be an accurate reflection of what a "normal" R1 Extra will sound like.

Vegitto, it's been explained time and again, if you don't like the burnt tips, you can ask for without.

I'm still tied up with work, I'll work on writing up everything in a bit.

I just don't like that type of tips. its like they put no effort in designing it.

:shakes head:

but il wait on my verdict after better sound vids and more dynos come out

fullmonty 03-22-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 459102)
uck my dad might want to buy this since he also drives the 370Z.

price wont be a problem since he already bought a akrapovic exhaust for his GT-R and that was around this price.

Wait, I thought you had the Z and your dad had the GTR? Anyway Great Exhaust Phelan! Looks tight!

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 459159)
Wait, I thought you had the Z and your dad had the GTR? Anyway Great Exhaust Phelan! Looks tight!

he drives the Z when I don't drive it since the GT-R is abit too expensive on fuel costs and the fact that he has to come in for service pretty quick if he ALWAYS drives it :roflpuke2: + he helped pay for it so I can hardly go "**** off"

vipor 03-22-2010 04:32 PM

Nissan GT-R
City (mpg) 16
Highway (mpg) 21

Vegitto-kun 03-22-2010 04:42 PM

its mostly the fact that he has to go to the dealership too quick if he drives it alot.

he prefers the Z anyway for some reason

ArtVandaleigh 03-22-2010 05:02 PM

Straight ballin. Always wanted an Amuse exhaust... :bowrofl:

RCZ 03-22-2010 05:03 PM

Hey that sounds really really good! Congrats on an awesome exhaust and we'll be waiting for dyno numbers!

drisko 03-22-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 459078)
He took it off and sold it. He told me that it was becoming too popular and wanted something where few had it.

Ha, ha, ha!!! We are still good to go in my book.

On another note, how have you been bud?

Tony

I've been doing great...just polished the ol' exhaust tips this past weekend.

Really though, I've just been waiting on COBB to finalize the damn AccessPort before I continue modding the car.

phelan 03-22-2010 05:57 PM

updated first three posts

Trips 03-22-2010 06:49 PM

Hey Phelan :hello:Love the Exhuast Br0..
Hope to hear it in person?.... Maybe We can go on the that Canyon run next month? :tup:

370zdub 03-22-2010 07:26 PM

Congrats man! Looks incredible and sounds great too! What kind of Y-Pipe did you end up going with?

SoCal 370Z 03-22-2010 07:53 PM

I believe that the best Y-pipe going is the one Saclam has slowly worked-out (they went through several designs before arriving at this one):


Note how the connect point is also a limited pivot. the expansion joints are a rigid flex and placed further back than any of the others currently on the market. Saclam really has addresed issues such as vibration, heat, and engine movement.


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