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Vegitto-kun 02-27-2010 01:07 PM

The purpose of other intake.
 
I know I should of looked around but too many results and too little time made me post this topic.

What IS the purpose of a custom intake?

And how does it improve anything compared to the stock intake.

I AM a huge noob towards cars so yeah I am pathetic :roflpuke2:.

MightyBobo 02-27-2010 01:13 PM

It helps clean the smog out of the air. Cleaner the air, the more efficient the burn in the combustion chamber. That helps create more power. Very significant in California, but gains arent as noticeable in, say, Hawaii.

Trips 02-27-2010 01:15 PM

Horsepower Gain!

Vegitto-kun 02-27-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 420423)
Horsepower Gain!

that is always a good thing :roflpuke2:.

Are there like different types?

What would be one of the best picks because I often see people advising stillen.

Trips 02-27-2010 01:26 PM

Stillen or injen's, Stillen's make a little more Hp and cost more. The install requires the front bumper to be removed and minor cutting of where the old air boxes were.
The Injen's can be installed either removing the front bumper or just removing the front tires to get to the wheel liners, so the wheel liners can be moved out of the way.. There's diy on both in the diy section.

Azroadster 02-27-2010 02:18 PM

Imagine that your engine is an air pump. It sucks air in and exhausts it thru the exhaust. The less restriction that it has on both sides - intake and exhaust - the more horespower it is capable of making. Your ECU will adjust to the amount of air entering the intake (up to a point) and add more fuel to match the corresponding air that a new intake will deliver. The stock system is pretty good in that our Z's make pretty good power from the factory, but it could be better, hence the aftermarket systems.

The other issue is the temperature of the intake air. Cold air is more dense than warm air, so the colder the charge the more your ECU can do to increase the horsepower. Of course, there is a point where the system cannot do more than it is programmed to do. I think you will find that the most that the best intake out there can do for you would be about 15-18 horsepower. An less restrictive exhaust will add more as well. Then you can look at high flow cats and such. Good luck with your search for the perfect intake.

AZ Roadster

Vegitto-kun 02-27-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 420434)
Stillen or injen's, Stillen's make a little more Hp and cost more. The install requires the front bumper to be removed and minor cutting of where the old air boxes were.
The Injen's can be installed either removing the front bumper or just removing the front tires to get to the wheel liners, so the wheel liners can be moved out of the way.. There's diy on both in the diy section.

I wont do them myselves. as I said I am a complete noob.

I will just let my nissan dealer do it.

Matt 02-27-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 420913)
I wont do them myselves. as I said I am a complete noob.

I will just let my nissan dealer do it.

Many dealerships will not install aftermarket, non-nismo parts on our car. Talk to your dealership's service techs, the actual guys that would be working on the car, and see what they say. Just ask general questions, not specific install-specific questions. You don't want to raise a red flag.

For instance, if my dealership was asked to install a CAI on my car, they'd refuse and then absolutely everything that went wrong on the car would be blamed on the intake.

Best bet is to find a trusted mechanic nearby. Good luck!

MightyBobo 02-27-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 420913)
I wont do them myselves. as I said I am a complete noob.

I will just let my nissan dealer do it.

Everyone starts somewhere - do you want to be a noob forever, or would you rather fork over $100-200 in labor when you could easily follow many of the picture-filled and well-written DIY's on this site?

The best way I learned was simply diving in.

Josh@STILLEN 02-28-2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 420420)
It helps clean the smog out of the air. Cleaner the air, the more efficient the burn in the combustion chamber. That helps create more power. Very significant in California, but gains arent as noticeable in, say, Hawaii.

Filtration is definitely important.. but I'm not sure I'd bring smog into the equation.. gains in a clean environment with say the STILLEN Gen 3 are just as effective in cleaner environments..

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Originally Posted by Azroadster (Post 420489)
Imagine that your engine is an air pump. It sucks air in and exhausts it thru the exhaust. The less restriction that it has on both sides - intake and exhaust - the more horespower it is capable of making. Your ECU will adjust to the amount of air entering the intake (up to a point) and add more fuel to match the corresponding air that a new intake will deliver. The stock system is pretty good in that our Z's make pretty good power from the factory, but it could be better, hence the aftermarket systems.

The other issue is the temperature of the intake air. Cold air is more dense than warm air, so the colder the charge the more your ECU can do to increase the horsepower. Of course, there is a point where the system cannot do more than it is programmed to do. I think you will find that the most that the best intake out there can do for you would be about 15-18 horsepower. An less restrictive exhaust will add more as well. Then you can look at high flow cats and such. Good luck with your search for the perfect intake.

AZ Roadster

Air pump example is always effective.. dense air in.. explosion.. exhaust gases out.. the faster and more efficient.. the more horsepower.. simple premise..

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 420952)
Many dealerships will not install aftermarket, non-nismo parts on our car. Talk to your dealership's service techs, the actual guys that would be working on the car, and see what they say. Just ask general questions, not specific install-specific questions. You don't want to raise a red flag.

For instance, if my dealership was asked to install a CAI on my car, they'd refuse and then absolutely everything that went wrong on the car would be blamed on the intake.

Best bet is to find a trusted mechanic nearby. Good luck!

I think you'll find with research that's not the case, and increasingly more so, at least with STILLEN products. We have a fantastic relationship with Nissan and it's dealerships, and are common installs on most dealerships across the country.

If you're looking for a particularly friendly dealership, please PM me.. I can't imagine the one in your area isn't ready to install something from us..

MightyBobo 02-28-2010 03:35 AM

Josh................you were supposed to laugh at my post........lol

Josh@STILLEN 02-28-2010 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 421424)
Josh................you were supposed to laugh at my post........lol

LOL.. no I did..

You have to remember you're an OG here.. and there's a lot of folks that read your stuff.. and you're going to educate them the wrong way..

:D

I'm the one who get's PM's asking about stuff like this.. :bowrofl:

Matt 02-28-2010 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 421259)

I think you'll find with research that's not the case, and increasingly more so, at least with STILLEN products. We have a fantastic relationship with Nissan and it's dealerships, and are common installs on most dealerships across the country.

I would be disheartened if the attitude of my local dealership was the norm, however, I must live with the fact that they are total douches. Luckily, I have a fantastic local repair/custom exhaust shop nearby that does all my installs (and are fans of Stillen products!).

Vegitto-kun 02-28-2010 10:57 AM

they don't make problems of tuning products. i mean the boss of the dealership owns a TT 350Z and pretty much every Z car.

they also installed a akrapovic exhaust on the GT-R

they are good people

and sure I could do it myself but mess it up and I am ******.

josh are there any stillen dealers here in belgium?

MightyBobo 02-28-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 421709)
and sure I could do it myself but mess it up and I am ******.

You wont mess it up - dont you have a car friend or anything? Someone who can be a 2nd set of eyes to watch over you? Thats the best way to learn...

Vegitto-kun 02-28-2010 01:03 PM

Well starting today I go to this place where they strip down cars and fix some.

I guess it will be a good learning place. I mean today I fixed a totally broken transmission

Biggest problem is my father he helped me with paying for the car and he is pretty "OMG YOU SUCK AT EVERYTHING LEAVE IT TO THE PROS"

I doubt that he would even let me change a lightbulb on the car -_-

MightyBobo 02-28-2010 01:09 PM

I didnt learn jack diddly squat from my dad - he HATED cars. Had to teach everything myself. Trust me, its a lot easier than you think.

Vegitto-kun 02-28-2010 01:27 PM

the sad thing is.

he LOVES cars.

I mean why else would he buy a GT-R

he used to mess about with cars in his younger days.

but its like he is scared of me doing ANYTHING on my car.

he would be scared shitless if I dared touching the intake

MightyBobo 02-28-2010 01:35 PM

So prove him wrong. Go watch people do work on em, learn a thing or two. Prove to him that you can learn.

Vegitto-kun 02-28-2010 01:46 PM

I know. But he aint a easy person. Haha well il first have to find a shop where they SELL the stillen intakes.

RCZ 02-28-2010 04:46 PM

MightyBobo, if youre gonna give him a silly answer on purpose make it more outlandish next time, you had me wondering about you there for a second :)

MightyBobo 02-28-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 422531)
MightyBobo, if youre gonna give him a silly answer on purpose make it more outlandish next time, you had me wondering about you there for a second :)

Rofl. I had to make it seem SOMEWHAT authentic. You like the combustion chamber part? :-p

1slow370 03-01-2010 12:14 AM

geez i think everybody on here has learned by now to never trust anyone whos name is in orange. yeah just grab up the stillen or injen intake, download the .pdf service manual for the car, do some reading, maybe take a consumer auto class, or hey just get your dad to do it. My father hates cars and hates me buying things for my cars but guess who he gets to fix his?

Vegitto-kun 03-01-2010 07:37 AM

found a retailer asks 599 euro for the intake

converted that to dollar = 810 bucks

il see what stillen themselves offer me

Vegitto-kun 03-02-2010 02:30 PM

update.

I bought the stillen gen3 intake.

MightyBobo 03-02-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 425621)
update.

I bought the stillen gen3 intake.

Good call. :tup:

Vegitto-kun 03-02-2010 02:49 PM

i am going to call the dealership tommorow and see if they will install it for cheap. I know I can do it myself but my parents would give me hell and it IS true warrenty wise it is smarter to let the dealership do it.

well basically the owner of it since he does nothing but modding cars. for example he himself did his TT setup with his 350Z.

But yeah I will buy a cheap old car where I can experiment with. Don't want to risk messing up a 60.000 bucks car

1slow370 03-03-2010 02:34 AM

:eek: $60,000 I would die if i lived outside of the US seriously that is double what the car costs here

Vegitto-kun 03-03-2010 03:02 AM

oh yes

the car is 46.000ish euro full option

62,710.88 dollars.

see now why I fear to mess with it myself

dannemare 03-03-2010 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 426706)
:eek: $60,000 I would die if i lived outside of the US seriously that is double what the car costs here

That's absolutely nothing. It's more than $140,000 in Denmark. :eek: Good thing I moved just across the border to Sweden some years ago. :tiphat: Here it only costs $60,000 as well.

Vegitto-kun 03-04-2010 07:19 AM

so yeah I think people understand why I as a complete noob don't want to mess around with such a expensive car.

I am quite happy with stillen. shipped the same day I paid and it will be here on monday.

MightyBobo 03-04-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 428439)
so yeah I think people understand why I as a complete noob don't want to mess around with such a expensive car.

I am quite happy with stillen. shipped the same day I paid and it will be here on monday.

Meh, $60 grand or not wouldnt stop me from taking the bumper off, and Im a cheapo. Its pretty easy dude :)

Vegitto-kun 03-05-2010 12:10 AM

I am not like that. I am not rich and cant risk breaking anything on this car. :tiphat:

MightyBobo 03-05-2010 05:39 AM

If you got a $60000 car, you make more than I do. Or at least, someone does in your family.

Zsteve 03-05-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 426716)
oh yes

the car is 46.000ish euro full option

62,710.88 dollars.

see now why I fear to mess with it myself

does your pay check double too there?

shumby 03-05-2010 11:27 AM

well that is about what my car ran me and i mess with mine all the time.

Vegitto-kun 03-05-2010 04:35 PM

If I want to mess about with a car il probably buy a POS to mess around with

Vegitto-kun 03-08-2010 09:45 AM

intake came in

it is pretty and those filters are bigger than I expected

Slynky 03-12-2010 07:28 AM

I'm not very good at stuff like that, either. But when I installed my Injen CAI on my Acura, when I got to something that the DIY didn't show, I just took a photo and posted it and within an hour, I had someone advise me. I did it on a weekend starting on a Saturday and it sat overnight till Sunday getting it done but it got done. And done right.

You should take a look at the do-it-yourself stuff and see if it looks too complicated.

370Zsteve 03-12-2010 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 420420)
It helps clean the smog out of the air. Cleaner the air, the more efficient the burn in the combustion chamber. That helps create more power. Very significant in California, but gains arent as noticeable in, say, Hawaii.

:facepalm:


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