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Rusty 06-24-2021 03:04 PM

The way to develop a manifold is with a flow bench. Start with the stock manifold and test it at different valve lifts ,cfm and velocities. Then test and retest the new manifold against what the stock manifold produced. Once you think you got it. Then it's time for the dyno.

Elmo370z 06-24-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3999934)
True, but you have to remember that some persons buy these alternate manifolds purely for appearance. In cases like that, this is not a bad decision.

Yeah I know

Spooler 06-24-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3999934)
True, but you have to remember that some persons buy these alternate manifolds purely for appearance. In cases like that, this is not a bad decision.

Appearance, they should be buying the CJ Motorsport intake. Sometimes, I wish I would have just sucked it up and payed for all the extra fab work that would be required.

gridlock13 06-24-2021 08:32 PM

I understand the negative thinking. Know this. My fabricator and I are from race country. We have been friends with Dave Buschur for years. Then Tim Switzer who built the goliath GTRs . SHEPARD and Mallet vets. You name it. I trust my fabricator as he has been in this scene for a long time before most of these companies were even around. If it doesn't make power, we try again. That is the point of testing. But we will call one of these friends and tell the we are coming down for test time. We'll keep you posted.

-ZS-Carpenter 06-25-2021 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3999936)
The way to develop a manifold is with a flow bench. Start with the stock manifold and test it at different valve lifts ,cfm and velocities. Then test and retest the new manifold against what the stock manifold produced. Once you think you got it. Then it's time for the dyno.

And no one is going to cough up the coin to do that for a car that sold less than 100k units.

It is what it is on this platform. There will not be any ground breaking development done "the right way" because there is no profit in it. At best they will sell 20 parts if it works. FFS SOHO got what? 12 people on his manifold group buy.

There is no point in acting like everything has to be done like Nascar. It's a nissan that didn't sell well, thats it.

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Elmo370z 06-25-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3999982)
And no one is going to cough up the coin to do that for a car that sold less than 100k units.

It is what it is on this platform. There will not be any ground breaking development done "the right way" because there is no profit in it. At best they will sell 20 parts if it works. FFS SOHO got what? 12 people on his manifold group buy.

There is no point in acting like everything has to be done like Nascar. It's a nissan that didn't sell well, thats it.

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Well if soho runs 8’s this weekend, it might trigger some of the millionaires to start looking into the platform. Ditch the Vvel, Hr heads stand alone tuning and waaala we are able to rev these motors to 9,500 Rpms big turbos, and use these manifolds with a purpose.

Spooler 06-25-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3999982)
And no one is going to cough up the coin to do that for a car that sold less than 100k units.

It is what it is on this platform. There will not be any ground breaking development done "the right way" because there is no profit in it. At best they will sell 20 parts if it works. FFS SOHO got what? 12 people on his manifold group buy.

There is no point in acting like everything has to be done like Nascar. It's a nissan that didn't sell well, thats it.

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They sold ALL 15 that were made. None left. Many folks were left out in the cold and did not get one. Guess there will be a round 2.

JARblue 06-25-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gridlock13 (Post 3999965)
If it doesn't make power, we try again. That is the point of testing.

Then why are you taking pre-orders already? Need that money for R&D?

-ZS-Carpenter 06-25-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3999997)
They sold ALL 15 that were made. None left. Many folks were left out in the cold and did not get one. Guess there will be a round 2.

I'd hope he does. That is a sweet unit. I'd love to have one. Hope things are calmed down by then and I can jump in

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Whjaxn17 06-25-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3999982)
And no one is going to cough up the coin to do that for a car that sold less than 100k units.

It is what it is on this platform. There will not be any ground breaking development done "the right way" because there is no profit in it. At best they will sell 20 parts if it works. FFS SOHO got what? 12 people on his manifold group buy.

There is no point in acting like everything has to be done like Nascar. It's a nissan that didn't sell well, thats it.

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Imagine asking to get ripped off:ugh2:

Spooler 06-25-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3999993)
Well if soho runs 8’s this weekend, it might trigger some of the millionaires to start looking into the platform. Ditch the Vvel, Hr heads stand alone tuning and waaala we are able to rev these motors to 9,500 Rpms big turbos, and use these manifolds with a purpose.

Not happening. 3rd Gear broke again. Time for a billet gear sets. It is not going to be cheap either.

-ZS-Carpenter 06-25-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 4000002)
Imagine asking to get ripped off:ugh2:

:facepalm: that's exactly what I said :facepalm:

With the attitude some people have around here we should just dig a grave for the car and call it a day.

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