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ReeceZ 07-30-2015 02:37 AM

FI Non res vs resonated CBE
 
Hi gents,

I was hoping to get some info from guys who own the Fast Intention systems before I decide what to get. My issue here is that I'm from South Africa and shipping something here is :wtf: . So a $1000 system will set me back about $1700, or a Motordyne system would be $2600 for me. My initial thought was to get the 12", but then watched YT vids of guys saying the non-res was not bad inside the cabin. Obviously, I would prefer something as loud as possible without giving my interior panels tremors.
My Z Roadster is everyday car. I'm after an increase in power/torque but more so, sound. My commute to work is about 20 mins, and when I drive on weekends it's usually with the top down. The choice between res and non-res for me is purely what happens in the cabin. I really don't wanna have to create more rattles and nasty vibrations, especially in my soft-top. Some of the things I need to know is

1. Do you feel components experience a nasty vibration with non-resonated systems?
2. What's it like speaking to passengers or on the hands-free with the systems?
3. How bad is the drone in the cabin with non-res, 12 an 18?
4. How much of a difference at WOT do these 3 types have?
5. Are there ground clearance issues with the rear mufflers?

Thanks guys :tiphat:

gomer_110 07-30-2015 06:44 AM

I have the worst case scenario (LTH's and non-res) and don't have any problems with it. There's virtually no drone except for ~2500-3000 RPM's. Also unless you've got you're foot in it, it's not horribly loud inside the cabin.

12nismo 07-30-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3271179)
I have the worst case scenario (LTH's and non-res) and don't have any problems with it. There's virtually no drone except for ~2500-3000 RPM's. Also unless you've got you're foot in it, it's not horribly loud inside the cabin.

Sound clip?

I'm also running the F.I. long tubes with CBE, but I have the 18" resonators. I love the way it sounds but am curious as to how much louder the non-res really is.

To the O.P.: If you want sound clips of mine, I have several on my IG: z34nismo Hope that helps you in your decision making.

FPenvy 07-30-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ReeceZ (Post 3271033)
Hi gents,


1. Do you feel components experience a nasty vibration with non-resonated systems?
2. What's it like speaking to passengers or on the hands-free with the systems?
3. How bad is the drone in the cabin with non-res, 12 an 18?
4. How much of a difference at WOT do these 3 types have?
5. Are there ground clearance issues with the rear mufflers?

Thanks guys :tiphat:

I used to run non-res test pipes and non res cbe with the carbon fiber mufflers. it's absolute perfection in sound and performance.

now i'm running full FI straight pipes lol the original set-up wasn't loud enough for my taste.

here's you 5 questions for non-res cbe

1. I never got any vibration sounds or feel from the exhaust.

2. talking on the Bluetooth wasn't an issue unless I was deep into the throttle (wide open) and that's normal for pretty much any aftermarket exhaust maybe even stock. didn't have mine stock long enough to remember how that sounded lol

3. non-res is the "worst" in terms of drone but I put 30k miles on my Z with the full nonres/nonres setup and it's not bad. did many 1k miles trips and there is a little but nothing bad whatsoever. 12" res would be less drone and 18" is the least.

the resonator size doesn't change the volume but kills the drone the larger you go.

4. volume for the CBE systems is pretty much the same across the board. the resonators just change drone as stated above.

now if you go test pipes or hfc you will increase volume as well.

5. if you're lowered a good bit and have bad roads you may run the risk of dinging the mufflers. i'm stock height in PA with bad roads and my cans are still unscathed. only chip in the clear coat from a small rock bouncing I guess but its maybe the size of half a pen cap.

any FI product you choose you cant go wrong with. unmatched quality and best customer service in the business.

:tiphat:

sound clips on my YT https://www.youtube.com/user/fpenvy

gomer_110 07-30-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 12nismo (Post 3271334)
Sound clip?

I'm also running the F.I. long tubes with CBE, but I have the 18" resonators. I love the way it sounds but am curious as to how much louder the non-res really is.

To the O.P.: If you want sound clips of mine, I have several on my IG: z34nismo Hope that helps you in your decision making.

Toledo Match Tour

I had the GoPro mounted on the front bumper during these videos. Admittedly the sound quality from the GoPro isn't the greatest.

ReeceZ 07-30-2015 11:07 AM

Thanks gomer_110, FPenvy, 12nismo for the detailed responses. Our roads here are also kinda bad so I'll be staying a stock height. I'm guessing the stock resonators are around the 12" mark, so I'll stick with that option. Since I'm going resonated CBE, would it be overkill to go resonated test pipe/HFC?

Sales@F.I. Inc. 07-30-2015 11:09 AM

Thanks to all those chiming in. :tiphat:

OP: All of our cat back exhaust options (non-res, 12", or 18") will sound louder than the factory exhaust system. The difference really is the interior sound level at cruising speed, and the depth of the exhaust note. All of our options will sound very similar (especially the 12" and 18") at wide open throttle.

Our Non-resonated exhaust system is the loudest option in terms of volume inside and outside the car. It is very exotic sounding and slightly higher in pitch because there are no resonators.

12" resonators help to quiet down some of the interior noise without sacrificing much of the exterior volume. The added 12" resonators help produce a slightly deeper and smoother tone. This is a great middle ground exhaust system in terms of sound level.

18" resonators do the best job of cutting out interior noise at cruising speed and under normal driving. They also produce the deepest and smoothest tone. Even though this

Because your car is a soft top, I would recommend choosing one of our resonated exhaust systems.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

- Kevin

FPenvy 07-30-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ReeceZ (Post 3271421)
Thanks gomer_110, FPenvy, 12nismo for the detailed responses. I'm guessing the stock resonators are around the 12" mark, so I'll stick with that option. Since I'm going resonated CBE, would it be overkill to go resonated test pipe/HFC?

it really comes down to how much volume and drone you prefer.

the more you open up the system the louder it will be but that's where the power is.

CBE adds good power but dropping the cats is where you unleash a lot of the restriction of the stock exhaust set-up.

adding non-res TP's will give you more volume and a little extra drone obviously since the cats are by you legs in location and you remove those there's some extra drone coming in there.

res TP's will give you the power and lower the drone.

HFCs to me seem pointless unless you live in an area that it wont pass emissions or don't have a guy to get around that part lol

FPenvy 07-30-2015 11:16 AM

also if you do decide to go FI the muffler choice itself will slightly alter the tone of the exhaust.

SS muffler is a bit deeper sounding

CF muffler is higher pitch, slightly louder, more exotic sounding.

ReeceZ 07-30-2015 12:30 PM

Wow, didn't realise the material of the rear mufflers would make that much of a difference. The CF mufflers are very sexy but would drive up the price for me. Thankfully, the cops here don't really care about emission laws.

FPenvy 07-30-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeceZ (Post 3271563)
Wow, didn't realise the material of the rear mufflers would make that much of a difference. The CF mufflers are very sexy but would drive up the price for me. Thankfully, the cops here don't really care about emission laws.

$300 more for the CF mufflers.

ReeceZ 07-30-2015 12:48 PM

Just watched a few vids with the CF mufflers. Sooo hawt. I know FPEnvy, but $300 extra is going over for me. If shipping wasn't a killer, I would definitely take CF.

FPenvy 07-30-2015 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeceZ (Post 3271594)
Just watched a few vids with the CF mufflers. Sooo hawt. I know FPEnvy, but $300 extra is going over for me. If shipping wasn't a killer, I would definitely take CF.

yea could only imagine shipping is not gonna be cheap for you. even as light as the FI exhaust is the size of the packaging bites you too.

and i thought mine was bad being on the east coast of the US and them on the west lol

Elmo370z 07-30-2015 05:24 PM

They are bit pricey

Zcup 07-30-2015 06:28 PM

I have the FI CBE with 18" resonators. I love it the sound and get compliments on it. I'm glad I went with the 18"res as I would not want it any louder in the cabin than it is. The 370Z is a noisy car to begin with.


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