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Bigd4mcc 06-04-2015 02:04 AM

Low budget exhaust!!
 
Does anyone have any sound clips of some Off brand exhaust systems? Doing the exhaust on a very tight budget and need to find one that sounds good but performs decent as well. Any suggestions guys?

Z370Z011 06-04-2015 03:06 AM

Go to a local shop and have them replicate the short tail exhaust that's sold for the Z.. I had a friend get it done for about $150 and it sounds great. Look up 370z short tails. Otherwise I'd say just stalk the forum for a killer deal on a full exhaust system.

Zbrah 06-04-2015 04:23 AM

I think Invidia runs $5-600 if I'm not mistaken, or just keep your eyes peeled for something used in the classified. I've seen some crazy deals going on every now and then. Like the one time I picked up a full Berk catback for $300!:happydance:

POS VETT 06-04-2015 06:15 AM

I will have a set of custom-made "short tails" for sale next week or so. I bought a DC Sport single-canister which will be installed sometime this week, replacing the "short tails". Eventually, I'll create a short review once I've gotten some miles and experience with it. So far, it's the cheapest major-branded exhaust yet. If you're interested in the "short tails", send me a PM.

Elmo370z 06-04-2015 07:36 AM

Stop being cheap, and save up for an exhaust. This isn't a civic. Just be happy with what you have

FPenvy 06-04-2015 07:45 AM

this reminds me of the people who buy a Z then complain about paying for 93 in the tank.

don't buy the car if you can't afford the maintenance and go for ebay mods :facepalm:

Elmo370z 06-04-2015 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3218468)
this reminds me of the people who buy a Z then complain about paying for 93 in the tank.

don't buy the car if you can't afford the maintenance and go for ebay mods :facepalm:

Tell me about, I had a friend who bought a 350 and put 87 gas and regular oil in the car because he said it was too expensive to put the premium grade stuff in

FPenvy 06-04-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3218483)
Tell me about, I had a friend who bought a 350 and put 87 gas and regular oil in the car because he said it was too expensive to put the premium grade stuff in

yea it's just dumb.

bought the car too soon junior :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

jwick 06-04-2015 08:23 AM

It's times like these it's good to remember the business triangle.

Good-Fast-Cheap

You can only have two at a time. All three together doesn't exist.

Chuck33079 06-04-2015 08:28 AM

Just buy a used exhaust. Or, and this is way out of left field, if you can't afford to mod the car with quality parts, leave it stock. It's a very entertaining car bone stock.

Jordo! 06-04-2015 08:46 AM

Honestly, for sounds, gains, OEM fit and finish, I'd recommend trying to find someone's used OEM (i.e., "take off", H-piped) Nismo exhaust (NOT the Weldina Y piped version).

I can guarantee you it will (1) fit perfectly/be easy to install, (2) sound better than the standard OEM exhaust, (3) cost relatively little, (3) be well constructed, (4) net decent power gains, even without a tune.

Best bang for the buck exhaust option (without swapping out the OEM cats -- a whole other can of worms).

Masterbeatty 06-04-2015 09:13 AM

I heard home improvement stores sell washers on the cheap. :stirthepot:

just put like 5 or so between the flange to the muffler.:inoutroflpuke:

wanker 06-04-2015 10:15 AM

Beluga, CNT and Garageline all make decent budget exhausts for the 370z, and you can find videos of each on YouTube.

Push370zzz 06-04-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3218468)
this reminds me of the people who buy a Z then complain about paying for 93 in the tank.

don't buy the car if you can't afford the maintenance and go for ebay mods :facepalm:

There is nothing wrong with trying to get a good deal or pay less for an exhaust system.

OP, look at Top Speed or Beluga. Their stuff is basically identical, decent quality and is cheap.

FPenvy 06-04-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz (Post 3218757)
There is nothing wrong with trying to get a good deal or pay less for an exhaust system.

OP, look at Top Speed or Beluga. Their stuff is basically identical, decent quality and is cheap.

i'll go back to this quote....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3218495)
It's times like these it's good to remember the business triangle.

Good-Fast-Cheap

You can only have two at a time. All three together doesn't exist.

I get that yes you can go cheap and get parts to mod the Z. if that's what you want by all means go for it it's their own money and taste.

i'm just saying if you wait, save, and get top quality parts it's a much better system.

Bigd4mcc 06-04-2015 02:06 PM

Dang guys no need to punish me for a question. I make plenty of money, that's not the issue. I'm just the type of person that doesn't see the reason in spending over a grand for an exhaust that gives you the same power gains as the system that's half the price. I took the specs from the stillen g3 intake and made my own with the same gains give or take like 3 hp. Cost me about 200. Rather than almost 600. I'll take that any day. I understand the quality part of it all. But when you sit back and look at it, it's air going through pipes. As long as the pipes are mandrel bent and the sizes are similar along with the piping position, shouldn't it react the same as all the others? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a smart guy but I'm no genius nor am I am expert in exhaust systems.

Bigd4mcc 06-04-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz (Post 3218757)
There is nothing wrong with trying to get a good deal or pay less for an exhaust system.

OP, look at Top Speed or Beluga. Their stuff is basically identical, decent quality and is cheap.

Yeah I was looking into a couple of those, the top speed would be my strongest choice only because the research I've done and with the shops I've talked to. They say that once you go into a single midpipe and take away the x pipe that you lose about 10hp in the long run. I live down here in south Texas and I go to Jtran motorsports alot. The main shop owner knows a crap load more than I do and deals with these cars on a daily basis. I already made some short tails of my own but I'm kind of stuck on what I should do from the catback.either just replace the whole system or piece together my own. I'm going with non resonated test pipes for sure tho. Any ideas on making my own?

BC416 06-04-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigd4mcc (Post 3218888)
Dang guys no need to punish me for a question. I make plenty of money, that's not the issue. I'm just the type of person that doesn't see the reason in spending over a grand for an exhaust that gives you the same power gains as the system that's half the price. I took the specs from the stillen g3 intake and made my own with the same gains give or take like 3 hp. Cost me about 200. Rather than almost 600. I'll take that any day. I understand the quality part of it all. But when you sit back and look at it, it's air going through pipes. As long as the pipes are mandrel bent and the sizes are similar along with the piping position, shouldn't it react the same as all the others? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a smart guy but I'm no genius nor am I am expert in exhaust systems.

I'd suggest researching up on quality exhaust shops in your area who would be willing to do a custom one. I'm all about saving money when you can but I'd stay away from the Ebay junk like Beluga. You can always browse the FS section and look for good deals there.

There is a reason why a lot of people go with a quality system though. They are proven, backed up by lots of testing, and the sellers provide quality customer service. A lot of people don't consider the last one, but it's the most important to me. You might have saved $500 on that cheap exhaust you purchased but when it's missing some hardware or doesn't line up properly and they don't answer your calls because they already have your money, you are screwed.

:tup:

wanker 06-04-2015 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigd4mcc (Post 3218888)
Dang guys no need to punish me for a question. I make plenty of money, that's not the issue. I'm just the type of person that doesn't see the reason in spending over a grand for an exhaust that gives you the same power gains as the system that's half the price. I took the specs from the stillen g3 intake and made my own with the same gains give or take like 3 hp. Cost me about 200. Rather than almost 600. I'll take that any day. I understand the quality part of it all. But when you sit back and look at it, it's air going through pipes. As long as the pipes are mandrel bent and the sizes are similar along with the piping position, shouldn't it react the same as all the others? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a smart guy but I'm no genius nor am I am expert in exhaust systems.

Exactly. Don't get bullied by the forumites, who generally mean well, but not everyone is in the market for $1000+ exhaust systems. There are many reputable discount exhausts for the 370z if you do your homework. Do a forum search and you will hear many good things about Beluga, CNT and Garageline exhausts.

Bigd4mcc 06-04-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wanker (Post 3219079)
Exactly. Don't get bullied by the forumites, who generally mean well, but not everyone is in the market for $1000+ exhaust systems. There are many reputable discount exhausts for the 370z if you do your homework. Do a forum search and you will hear many good things about Beluga, CNT and Garageline exhausts.

Thanks man I'll do a little research and see what I come up with. In the mean time any links that you guys might have would be helpful.

jrb55gh 06-04-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3218504)

Best bang for the buck exhaust option (without swapping out the OEM cats -- a whole other can of worms).

What are the worms when swapping out the oem cats?

gomer_110 06-05-2015 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jrb55gh (Post 3219227)
What are the worms when swapping out the oem cats?

demon bolts. Do a search on here and you'll understand.

YzGyz 06-05-2015 11:29 AM

Here is a picture of what it tools I used to get the cats off. That short bolt is a snapped bolt.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...pso4gghg2q.jpg

YzGyz

Push370zzz 06-05-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3218758)
i'll go back to this quote....

I get that yes you can go cheap and get parts to mod the Z. if that's what you want by all means go for it it's their own money and taste.

i'm just saying if you wait, save, and get top quality parts it's a much better system.

I don't think you understand the issue. It seems that OP doesn't have the problem of wanting to buy a less expensive part because he cannot afford it. He is looking for the cheapest way to get what he wants. There is nothing wrong with that, and I share that mentality with him. Why would I spend $1200 when I could spend $500 and be just as happy? Impressing people on the internet or at a car show over how much I spent doesn't appeal to me, perhaps it does to others and that's their prerogative and there is nothing wrong with it.

After all, I bought the Z over a Cayman because it was a "cheap" way to get a good looking fun sports car with decent amenities, yet I don't see you lot telling me I should have just bought the quality car.

Trips 06-05-2015 12:03 PM

I would like us to move forward and just help the Op with his question instead of lecturing him.

At this point he is doing nothing wrong with just finding a low cost solution that is NOT endangering him or anyone else.


Op,

There are some options on here as some have pointed out.

I would just make sure they hold up in time and not turn to crap after a long period of usage.

FPenvy 06-05-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz (Post 3219814)
I don't think you understand the issue. It seems that OP doesn't have the problem of wanting to buy a less expensive part because he cannot afford it. He is looking for the cheapest way to get what he wants. There is nothing wrong with that, and I share that mentality with him. Why would I spend $1200 when I could spend $500 and be just as happy? Impressing people on the internet or at a car show over how much I spent doesn't appeal to me, perhaps it does to others and that's their prerogative and there is nothing wrong with it.

After all, I bought the Z over a Cayman because it was a "cheap" way to get a good looking fun sports car with decent amenities, yet I don't see you lot telling me I should have just bought the quality car.

the quote of mine that you're referring to (in a bit of a douche way fyi) was said PRIOR to the OP saying it's not about money.

I said what I said based on precedent. typically 90% of the people who pose this question/idea about cheap parts is doing it because they can't afford them. hence why I said what I said. furthermore, if you had more then 30 posts you'd probably realize the running jokes about people poorly doing DIY parts and the jokes that follow.

luigi90210 06-05-2015 07:33 PM

When I had my Z I had the stock Nismo exhaust with tanabe replica axle back(made by top speed) and top speed test pipes. Got nothing but compliments on my exhaust from random people on the street.

Jordo! 06-05-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrb55gh (Post 3219227)
What are the worms when swapping out the oem cats?

Oh, there's a few...

1. The aptly nick-named "demon bolts", as another member noted.

2. Unforgiving rasp and rattle on decel (if unresonated TP's are used).

3. The potential for a CEL if the ECU detects too much similarity in voltage changes between primary and secondary O2's.

4. Passing emissions, if that's a thing in your state; (NB: #3 and #4 are both possible problems even with HFC's, and resonated HFC's are advised as well...)

5. Possible fuel odors (probably more for those running TP's untuned...)

6. A tune is not "required" but is highly advisable. Pulling the cats makes for significant differences in flow and also means less heat at the head, so you can dial in more timing -- the OEM cats are arguably the greatest bottleneck on the car, and swapping the cats out for either HFC's or TP's is a high bang-for-the-buck mod in terms of power gain.

Nothing insurmountable, but not quite as easy as just swapping out the cat back and calling it a day.

Bigd4mcc 06-05-2015 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Push370zzz (Post 3219814)
I don't think you understand the issue. It seems that OP doesn't have the problem of wanting to buy a less expensive part because he cannot afford it. He is looking for the cheapest way to get what he wants. There is nothing wrong with that, and I share that mentality with him. Why would I spend $1200 when I could spend $500 and be just as happy? Impressing people on the internet or at a car show over how much I spent doesn't appeal to me, perhaps it does to others and that's their prerogative and there is nothing wrong with it.

After all, I bought the Z over a Cayman because it was a "cheap" way to get a good looking fun sports car with decent amenities, yet I don't see you lot telling me I should have just bought the quality car.

Thank you for clarifying sir. I was going to buy a c6 z06, but just wanted to keep it simple about about 20 grand cheaper haha. When I can just put about half the money difference in the z and be faster. I have always be a fan of the z family so the choice was a no brainer for me.

Bigd4mcc 06-05-2015 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3220388)
Oh, there's a few...

1. The aptly nick-named "demon bolts", as another member noted.

2. Unforgiving rasp and rattle on decel (if unresonated TP's are used).

3. The potential for a CEL if the ECU detects too much similarity in voltage changes between primary and secondary O2's.

4. Passing emissions, if that's a thing in your state; (NB: #3 and #4 are both possible problems even with HFC's, and resonated HFC's are advised as well...)

5. Possible fuel odors (probably more for those running TP's untuned...)

6. A tune is not "required" but is highly advisable. Pulling the cats makes for significant differences in flow and also means less heat at the head, so you can dial in more timing -- the OEM cats are arguably the greatest bottleneck on the car, and swapping the cats out for either HFC's or TP's is a high bang-for-the-buck mod in terms of power gain.

Nothing insurmountable, but not quite as easy as just swapping out the cat back and calling it a day.

Yeah I was doing a little research on all the issues with hfc and test pipes resonated and non resonated. I wanted to do my own set up with 2.5 inch all the way back with x pipe and about 18 inch resonators in the midpipe area with top speed axle back exhaust. I'm thinking about testing that out to see how it sounds, and then I'm going with the obvious tune, uprev

luigi90210 06-06-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigd4mcc (Post 3220421)
Yeah I was doing a little research on all the issues with hfc and test pipes resonated and non resonated. I wanted to do my own set up with 2.5 inch all the way back with x pipe and about 18 inch resonators in the midpipe area with top speed axle back exhaust. I'm thinking about testing that out to see how it sounds, and then I'm going with the obvious tune, uprev

Don't worry about the smell or rasp, its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. With my set up I couldn't even hear the rasp/hiss the test pipes make, before the axle back I could but the car was a lot quieter with the stock Nismo muffler. As long as your exhaust is fully resonated(would have 4 resonators if you go with your setup) you won't get any rasp. And I couldn't smell the gas unless I was at a red light and had the windows down. People behind me on the other hand now that's a different story. I've had my friends complain about the smell when they would follow me places.

Bigd4mcc 06-06-2015 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 3220432)
Don't worry about the smell or rasp, its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. With my set up I couldn't even hear the rasp/hiss the test pipes make, before the axle back I could but the car was a lot quieter with the stock Nismo muffler. As long as your exhaust is fully resonated(would have 4 resonators if you go with your setup) you won't get any rasp. And I couldn't smell the gas unless I was at a red light and had the windows down. People behind me on the other hand now that's a different story. I've had my friends complain about the smell when they would follow me places.

You wouldn't happen to have a video of the way it sounds would you? What exact set up did you have? Yeah I wasn't too worried about the rasp , nothing a resonator or two can't fix, the smell im not worried about. Its the performance and the sound. Those are the only things I care about.

luigi90210 06-06-2015 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigd4mcc (Post 3220433)
You wouldn't happen to have a video of the way it sounds would you? What exact set up did you have? Yeah I wasn't too worried about the rasp , nothing a resonator or two can't fix, the smell im not worried about. Its the performance and the sound. Those are the only things I care about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz4u76l7Bak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGE59vUTkJk

DavidZ370 06-06-2015 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3218468)
this reminds me of the people who buy a Z then complain about paying for 93 in the tank.

don't buy the car if you can't afford the maintenance and go for ebay mods :facepalm:

but you have straight pipes :wtf2:

Bigd4mcc 06-06-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 3220436)

I kind of like the sound of that. I might just give that a try, thanks bro.

Bigd4mcc 06-06-2015 08:20 AM

:owned::icon18:
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3220453)
but you have straight pipes :wtf2:


JARblue 06-06-2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3220453)
but you have straight pipes :wtf2:

But they are Fast Intention straight pipes. Not local muffler shop straight pipes. There is a difference despite the simplicity :twocents:

luigi90210 06-06-2015 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigd4mcc (Post 3220611)
I kind of like the sound of that. I might just give that a try, thanks bro.

No worries bro. Glad I could help.

FPenvy 06-06-2015 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3220453)
but you have straight pipes :wtf2:


And your point is? In a few pumps of a jack and 4 bolts I got mufflers again. Go find a way to do that with any other aftermarket set up :tiphat:

jchammond 06-06-2015 09:54 PM

https://vimeo.com/129999295 I like mine quiet (stock)


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