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btimola 12-08-2014 11:57 PM

need help asap
 
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I got an 09 370z touring sport. A buddy has an 09 as well. He can no longer afford the car and has to return it to the bank. It has many upgrades. Including coilovers. His car has 30k miles. He wants to trade me his stillen supercharger kit, headers, injectors and ecu, for 1200! In return he keeps my oem stuff. Better than the bank getting it i suppose. The kit has like 20k miles. What exactly must i make sure we remove? He has the new gaskets as well. Do i need new serpentine belts, timing belt etc? He says the kit runs like oem that it even has its own coolant reservoir. Do i also get the fuel pump? Is that inside the gas tank? Also, my big concern is the tune, how can i transfer it? Can i just remove the ecu and plug into mine? If not ill have to pay 900 and take my car towing 400 miles away to get tuned by uprev. Please any suggestionsAttachment 97879

JWillis72 12-09-2014 08:32 AM

If you go to Stillens website you can download the instruction so you don't miss anything.


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theDreamer 12-09-2014 08:37 AM

You basically will be getting a 'tuner' kit, which means you will lack the fuel pump & tune probably.
The license for the tune can be transferred to you, but not the specific tune itself. You will need to take your car to a shop and have it tuned.

Use this thread to see what you will recover along with the instruction manual: http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ouncement.html

jwick 12-09-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3051503)
You basically will be getting a 'tuner' kit, which means you will lack the fuel pump & tune probably.
The license for the tune can be transferred to you, but not the specific tune itself. You will need to take your car to a shop and have it tuned.

Use this thread to see what you will recover along with the instruction manual: http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ouncement.html

:iagree:

You could probably swap fuel pumps but considering you can get a whole new setup for about $100 it probably isn't worth tearing into the fuel tank.

Are the spark plugs on the Stillen kit upgraded or OEM? Of course at 20k on the kit I would probably recommend a new set of plugs anyway.

I hope you have a lot of free time to make this swap happen.

As an aside - the folks at Stillen have always been really helpful when I called. You might want to give them a call and talk it through with them and get their input.

ANMVQ 12-09-2014 09:26 AM

Well whens he returning it? I would want to try to remove everything and sway the stock stuff back, Maybe take it to a shop and have them do it? I know you trying to save $$$ but if the kits only $1200 even if the swap over cost $2500 you still saving $7200 and not going to miss anything. ( My SC kit total with install was $9700)

btimola 12-09-2014 08:34 PM

A shop will do the install for 600 including the oem parts to his. Injectors as well. So should i get another fuel pump or remove his?im not in a rush i got other cars so dont use tye z alot. The tune can we swap ecus or do i need that cable? We both have 09 touring sport w vdc and s mode.

jwick 12-09-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by btimola (Post 3052155)
A shop will do the install for 600 including the oem parts to his. Injectors as well. So should i get another fuel pump or remove his?im not in a rush i got other cars so dont use tye z alot. The tune can we swap ecus or do i need that cable? We both have 09 touring sport w vdc and s mode.


That's really cheap to do all that labor. I wouldn't swap ecus. Just buy the cable and pull the license off his car. He is going to need his back to stock file to unload the tune

btimola 12-10-2014 12:42 AM

Does anyone have the cable for sure? Do all stillens have uprev? Can someone tell me what the process is to get his tune to my car and put his stock

Jordo! 12-10-2014 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by btimola (Post 3052252)
Does anyone have the cable for sure? Do all stillens have uprev? Can someone tell me what the process is to get his tune to my car and put his stock

PM seymore4 -- he can give you the details, but the short version is, you will need your own cable and licence, along with the tunable version of your stock ECU tune (a ROM file), and then have that ROM's set of maps tuned for your car.

Your buddy's map values (though not the ROM file itself) may be usable as a baseline tune, but you need your own cable etc -- you cannot just swap ECU or transfer his flash to your ECU (although you may be able to use his cable and license ... seymore4 will be able to assist.

CORRECTION: jwick is correct -- you can transfer licence and cable if your buddy has one. If not, you'll need to get your own.

Buuutt... if it isn't a tuner cable/licence you'd need to upgrade to that. Also, you will need a BACK TO STOCK ROM for your model ECU. You can search for more details at the Uprev site. You might want to track down a local tuner who is familiar with uprev to assist and advise.

jwick 12-10-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3052260)
PM seymore4 -- he can give you the details, but the short version is, you will need your own cable and licence, along with the tunable version of your stock ECU tune (a ROM file), and then have that ROM's set of maps tuned for your car.

Your buddy's map values (though not the ROM file itself) may be usable as a baseline tune, but you need your own cable etc -- you cannot just swap ECU or transfer his flash to your ECU (although you may be able to use his cable and license ... seymore4 will be able to assist.

As long as the original guy has the UpRev cable from Stillen then he should be able to pull the license of that car and store it on the cable. The tune itself will not work on another car. All the values as you stated would be correct but the tune itself it ECU dependent. He will either need to get a new tune file from Stillen or pay a tuner to start from scratch.

ANMVQ 12-10-2014 07:40 AM

Take the fuel pump also, and for $600 THATS A STEAL, Mine was $1700! Plus 100% for Seymore Stand up guy! Nothing but great things to say !

btimola 12-10-2014 04:02 PM

Hmm, so if i buy that cable i plug it into his obd port, and plug in a laptop? I then turn it to oem mode somehow, and that puts the tune in the cable? Then i plug the cable into my z and upload it there?

jwick 12-10-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by btimola (Post 3052961)
Hmm, so if i buy that cable i plug it into his obd port, and plug in a laptop? I then turn it to oem mode somehow, and that puts the tune in the cable? Then i plug the cable into my z and upload it there?

It's not that simple. You will need a 'BacktoStock' file to reflash the ECU to stock parameters. When that action is performed, it stores the license you removed on the cable. Take that cable/license to your tuner and have him tune the car from scratch. That or call Stillen and ask them how much it would cost for them to provide you with the tune file. If they can send you the tune file then you could just flash your ECU yourself at home.

btimola 12-10-2014 05:05 PM

Do tgey have presets like so u can do basic tuning urself.

Chuck33079 12-10-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by btimola (Post 3053019)
Do tgey have presets like so u can do basic tuning urself.

The Stillen tune is locked. If you buy a full version of Uprev you can tune the car completely from scratch.


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