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37winner 01-30-2015 06:31 PM

Yes?

37winner 01-30-2015 08:15 PM

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piping.

javi370z 01-30-2015 08:21 PM

Can't wait to see this thing done. Ever consider making a jig for those manifolds?

37winner 01-30-2015 08:36 PM

Sure if people can afford it.

37winner 02-01-2015 05:21 AM

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Intercooler mock up

jwick 02-01-2015 10:20 AM

One off custom build
 
You are going to build in a pretty good friction loss by having a hard 90 at the intercooler. Was that the only option with your pipe routing option?

cv129 02-01-2015 10:54 AM

Seen this car at the shop for the past couple years, it surely has been there for a long time, was wondering what the heck was going on. Also seen video of this car in action prior to this build, it was already a fast car. Good luck!

COSMO 02-01-2015 11:32 AM

I have to agree that bend is pretty harsh. Do you think that may cause pressure drop?



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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3098660)
You are going to build in a pretty good friction loss by having a hard 90 at the intercooler. Was that the only option with your pipe routing option?


37winner 02-20-2015 03:26 PM

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I'm curious where are all the nay sayers?

Chuck33079 02-20-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 37winner (Post 3117934)
I'm curious where are all the nay sayers?

We're still here. That bend off the IC is absolutely awful for flow. You should really do something about that.

FPenvy 02-20-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3117940)
We're still here. That bend off the IC is absolutely awful for flow. You should really do something about that.

:iagree:

37winner 02-20-2015 03:38 PM

I can't win.

But how is it bad? I'm assuming your a professional in making stuff. Explain please.

Chuck33079 02-20-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 37winner (Post 3117946)
I can't win.

But how is it bad? I'm assuming your a professional in making stuff. Explain please.

You really think a hard 90 degree turn is good for flow? Take a look at how any other 370 kit runs the inlets and outlets for the intercooler. You don't need to be a professional fabricator to know that. You just need to know the absolute basics. If the person who is building the kit doesn't even know that much, this project is going to end in tears.

Edit - 2 90 degree turns. Wow.

gbrettin 02-20-2015 03:44 PM

You only get so much real estate to work with. Keep the momentum!

37winner 02-20-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3117950)
You really think a hard 90 degree turn is good for flow? Take a look at how any other 370 kit runs the inlets and outlets for the intercooler. You don't need to be a professional fabricator to know that. You just need to know the absolute basics. If the person who is building the kit doesn't even know that much, this project is going to end in tears.

Edit - 2 90 degree turns. Wow.

SO your telling me you know how to do it? Hey why don't you come on down to Dallas and tell me how to do it in person. I'll put you on the pay roll.

Really I encourage it. Let me know.

Chuck33079 02-20-2015 03:53 PM

You asked for opinions, you got one. Sorry you don't agree. Maybe you could try reading a book about the subject. I would suggest "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell.

37winner 02-20-2015 04:01 PM

I never said I didn't agree Chuck. I found the perfect solution, you. It's a win win situation. You fix my problem, I pay you. You don't fix my problem, well no payment.

How about you read it to me when I'm in Houston. I promise I will listen to you very thoroughly, and take notes.

Chuck33079 02-20-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 37winner (Post 3117957)
I never said I didn't agree Chuck. I found the perfect solution, you. It's a win win situation. You fix my problem, I pay you. You don't fix my problem, well no payment.

How about you read it to me when I'm in Houston. I promise I will listen to you very thoroughly, and take notes.

No reason to be bitchy. When you ask for opinions on the internet, you may get some you don't like. This isn't the first time on this page alone you were told that was a bad fab choice, but you blindly soldiered on. So keep at it, champ. I'm sure you'll have that car up and running one day.

jwick 02-20-2015 04:06 PM

:drama:

37winner 02-20-2015 04:13 PM

Who said I'm bitchy? But since your the internet expert I guess I am. God why am I so bitchy, especially on this forum? The ******* green weenie strikes again. In the form of the internet now.

But really why don't you come on down, or wait, I'll go to you and ask you in person.

I've been told everything is impossible on this forum, Chuck. I'll be in Houston March 19-22 come say hi. Can't miss us. We have Marine Corps and our PLT stickers on our cars.

Chuck33079 02-20-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 37winner (Post 3117966)
Who said I'm bitchy? But since your the internet expert I guess I am. God why am I so bitchy, especially on this forum? The ******* green weenie strikes again. In the form of the internet now.

But really why don't you come on down, or wait, I'll go to you and ask you in person.

I've been told everything is impossible on this forum, Chuck. I'll be in Houston March 19-22 come say hi. Can't miss us. We have Marine Corps and our PLT stickers on our cars.

I never claimed to be an expert. It doesn't take an expert to know what you're doing is a bad design choice. You could have found that out simply by looking at a picture of any other 370 intercooler. But keep going, you're this far in it. Maybe you'll prove physics wrong.

37winner 02-20-2015 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3117968)
I never claimed to be an expert. It doesn't take an expert to know what you're doing is a bad design choice. You could have found that out simply by looking at a picture of any other 370 intercooler. But keep going, you're this far in it. Maybe you'll prove physics wrong.

Alright big sexy. Tell me more..... My mind is filled with naughty 90 degree tig welds, and other type of bends people say is a big no no.

Let us pray and ask God a question.

God can I prove physics wrong? I really want to please Chuck and let him be my bestest friend? Can you do that for me God??

I think God replied with a big **** you just now. Damn.....

jwick 02-20-2015 04:37 PM

One off custom build
 
First Google search came up with PVC but It shouldn't matter much since the friction coefficients will be similar.

1 - 90 3" bend is equal to 8ft of straight pipe. Short story long any bends in your system are going to introduce frictional loss and not be as efficient. So it is better to have it enter straight into the intercooler. Now if it's the only option then, it is what it is.

TopgunZ 02-21-2015 12:43 PM

Now im curious...So how much does 8ft or a 90 really slow down flow? Does it affect boost threshold? By how many rpms?

jwick 02-21-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3118556)
Now im curious...So how much does 8ft or a 90 really slow down flow? Does it affect boost threshold? By how many rpms?


I'd need a text book to calculate pressure drop caused by the frictional loss but it will effect threshold cuz you have to over come the extra friction loss.

The test car for Sasha's V2.0 kit picked up half a pound of boost from the new routing. I believe that most of that is due to not having the hard 90 at the exit to the compressor cover.

COSMO 02-21-2015 02:55 PM

What company came up with that design on intercooler? Dude just go with another intercooler so you wont bottleneck the system...
Ah, you gotta love this forum...

NYBladeZ 02-21-2015 03:19 PM

Good luck with the build. The Z34 community has taken a severe black eye because of the GTM mess. It needs qualified people thinking outside the box and helping develop obtainable products.

Ill 02-21-2015 05:01 PM

This is just as entertaining to read as the GTM thread.

OP is so salty

:drama:

37winner 02-23-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 3118689)
This is just as entertaining to read as the GTM thread.

OP is so salty

:drama:

Salty. I laughed out loud. I haven't heard that in awhile. Ahh salt dogs. =)

SlowZ 02-23-2015 05:45 PM

I really want to know what the IAT and under the hood temps are lol

Rusty 02-23-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill (Post 3118689)
This is just as entertaining to read as the GTM thread.

OP is so salty

:drama:

Comes to mind. :rofl2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/w24Xd8fVlTU


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