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1slow370 09-03-2014 02:05 PM

it all depends on the blower, the rotrex's don't quite switch into full on hairdryer mode like the vortechs do at high boost that is why they typically run more power without popping.

Akmcmahon 09-03-2014 02:24 PM

I posted this a week ago but didn't get much response. But this dyno was done at Stillen. Some things to consider as you can see in my post. 3rd gear pulls and no fan. My HP numbers seem on track considering, but my TQ numbers seem low. Did you ask what gear they were testing in? It's hot as balls in SoCal so that doesn't help. Did they use a fan at all? Everything adds up.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/95480-...yno-today.html

JWillis72 09-03-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2951092)
There is no way even with a nismo that with the stillen SC kit and their canned tune will it put down 416whp. My car has the stillen SC plus 9lb pulley and headers test pipes and the cat back exhaust and with a custom tune from r\t tuning I'm making 440 at the wheel which is exactly 50 more at the wheel over the stillen canned tune so I call bull****. Also my car is not a nismo

Not on the Stillen canned tune but 416whp is doable with a custom tune, mines 418whp with the 8lb pulley and Stillen cat back exhaust.

The canned tune sucked on my car and I don't think you will get that 416whp on Cali gas.

JWillis72 09-03-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Akmcmahon (Post 2951470)
I posted this a week ago but didn't get much response. But this dyno was done at Stillen. Some things to consider as you can see in my post. 3rd gear pulls and no fan. My HP numbers seem on track considering, but my TQ numbers seem low. Did you ask what gear they were testing in? It's hot as balls in SoCal so that doesn't help. Did they use a fan at all? Everything adds up.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/95480-...yno-today.html

Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

ANMVQ 09-03-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2951483)
Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

And 3rd gear pulls?

You WHP should be at worst 400 and QTRQ should be right around 300. 3rd gear is the wrong gear.

Team_STILLEN 09-03-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2951096)
And there is no way that their cat back exhaust is going to add 30 more at the wheel over your invida! Again I call bs!

We just changed the exhaust and the car feel completely different. Why don't you come by and drive it and see. We will be dynoing tomorrow and I will post results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2951483)
Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

We have been changing the canned tunes recently. Any supercharger kit after April 2014 has our new tunes. We had an IPL in Florida make 429 whp with a stock IPL exhaust (auto).

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9262da82.jpg

On Cali 91 Octane Gas 2013 G37 Coupe with STILLEN Supercharger and Exhaust. Smog legal tune on a 95 degree day.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps797f8abe.jpg

STILLEN 370Z with STILLEN Supercharger and STILLEN Exhaust (80 degrees) 91 Octane CARB Legal Tune.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps47739468.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2951492)
And 3rd gear pulls?

You WHP should be at worst 400 and QTRQ should be right around 300. 3rd gear is the wrong gear.

These are 3rd gear pulls because 4th gets going too fast.

JWillis72 09-03-2014 07:33 PM

I'm glad to hear the canned tune has changed!

JWillis72 09-03-2014 07:35 PM

I'm a Stillen fan but the canned tune really let me down! Glad to see you are working on it!

zmanelite 09-03-2014 07:53 PM

Yeah i talked to a few tuners some of them were recomended in this thread and they were saying the new tune were way better
Hoping for some good news from you guys soon :driving: :tup:

ANMVQ 09-03-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2951919)
I'm a Stillen fan but the canned tune really let me down! Glad to see you are working on it!


as I am also , But the canned tune I had only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. I'm just curious too , why did you emphasize smog legal tune ?
Just because we get a custom tune doesn't mean it's not smog legal. I got my sticker on my 412 WHP custom tune.
Get work in changing the canned tunes

nomodsjk 09-03-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zmanelite (Post 2951138)
You running 91 or 93 oct? ^^^^

93 octane

nomodsjk 09-03-2014 10:33 PM

Also please don't get me wrong I have every performance part that stillen makes for a reason. I love my stillen set up and I'm glad to hear that the tune and the exhaust is better. Just sux that I bought probably the last kit before you changed it. I bought mine the 3rd week in April this year lol figures

ZKraken22 09-03-2014 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2951888)
We just changed the exhaust and the car feel completely different. Why don't you come by and drive it and see. We will be dynoing tomorrow and I will post results.



We have been changing the canned tunes recently. Any supercharger kit after April 2014 has our new tunes. We had an IPL in Florida make 429 whp with a stock IPL exhaust (auto).

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9262da82.jpg

On Cali 91 Octane Gas 2013 G37 Coupe with STILLEN Supercharger and Exhaust. Smog legal tune on a 95 degree day.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps797f8abe.jpg

STILLEN 370Z with STILLEN Supercharger and STILLEN Exhaust (80 degrees) 91 Octane CARB Legal Tune.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps47739468.jpg



These are 3rd gear pulls because 4th gets going too fast.


I heard Stillen was working on the Supercharger system that will make more power. Is this what i've been hearing? A better tune?

Akmcmahon 09-04-2014 01:12 AM

To be clear, I'm not bashing on Stillen in my thread. I was just pointing out how they dynoed and the differences to what I'm used to seeing. Everyone there is really cool and helpful. I will definitely be going back to them. Customer service goes a long way for me and they were incredibly courteous.

I am baffled by the lack of a fan on the dyno though. Especially when the car shows heat soak, this would help reduce that and simulate a closer to real world experience. I'll probably bring it in to dyno my car with my new exhaust and HFC. Since info is lacking on the Ark Grip exhaust, figure it will help the community.

JWillis72 09-04-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2952154)
I heard Stillen was working on the Supercharger system that will make more power. Is this what i've been hearing? A better tune?

No, they are working on a kit to make more power also.


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