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TopgunZ 08-22-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2939548)
Please you guys have it good. Move up here. lol its going to snow in a month. haha

Hell I know what that's like. I was raised in North Dakota and it felt like winter would never leave. In Denver we get maybe 10 winter storms a year and the snow is only on the ground for 3 or 4 days then melts each time. So I can still drive the Z around in winter at least.

TopgunZ 08-22-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2939503)
I will spend a bunch of time logging and retuning, I should also be able to give you the approximate K value change to dial these in. Ill keep track of all that and post it up when I have it.

Cant wait to see this. I wonder at what psi this will choke out the maf at.

Sasha, Could you make the pipes with the longer standoff if requested? I wouldn't mind a strip setting at 17lbs or so.

OldBoy 08-24-2014 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2939548)
Please you guys have it good. Move up here. lol its going to snow in a month. haha

Chr#%t, don't remind me of that horrible white sh!t. Feels like summer just started...


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Boosted Performance 08-29-2014 11:40 AM

3" pipes:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3e0a8424.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps9db579d6.jpg

Mitco39 08-29-2014 11:50 AM

oooo gimmie gimmie. lol. Ill have results next week. It will take some time to retune the car.

TopgunZ 09-02-2014 10:55 AM

Sasha,

Do you have a few sets of these made up? I would like to get one soon. My motor is going to the machine shop today.

Boosted Performance 09-02-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2950044)
Sasha,

Do you have a few sets of these made up? I would like to get one soon. My motor is going to the machine shop today.

Ordering more pipes today so I can fabricate a few sets. I think it would be best if these become standard in the kit.

TopgunZ 09-02-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2950202)
Ordering more pipes today so I can fabricate a few sets. I think it would be best if these become standard in the kit.

I totally agree. Man, I came into the game 6 months too early..lol.. There have been some amazing revisions to this kit, which was phenomenal when it was at Rev.0.

Mitco39 09-06-2014 11:13 PM

Got the 3" in and tuned. The only real benchmark I have was a 80-140km/hr speed run with the racelogic VBOX sport what is very accurate and used by car and driver to benchmark their cars. We started out with a 80-140 speed of 3.92 seconds. After the tuning we were down to around 3.60 seconds. The car is much faster now that I can safely run up top. I ran the timing into knock and backed off about 2 degrees to be on the safe side.

The downside to you guys looking for built block setups and want to run over 13PSI of boost I think different MAFs are still going to be required as now I am sitting ~4.75 volts IIRC. I think anything over 14PSI will peg the MAFs.

For what its worth my K value changed about 15% from what it was with the 2.75" boost tubes. So its fair to say that there was about a 15% increase in flow around the MAFs with the larger boost tubes.

GaleForce 09-06-2014 11:16 PM

:rock:

TopgunZ 09-07-2014 11:57 AM

Dumb question #1. How did I push 11lbs of boost through just one of these on my 06 single intake 350?
Dumb question #2. Can we somehow use the 350 mafs?

Mitco39 09-07-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2956236)
Dumb question #1. How did I push 11lbs of boost through just one of these on my 06 single intake 350?
Dumb question #2. Can we somehow use the 350 mafs?

Answer to question number 1: Its not boost your measuring its airflow. So that could be why.

#2 - You can use the GT MAFs that uprev sells if you need the extra room.

No dumb questions at all.

Boosted Performance 09-07-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2955878)
Got the 3" in and tuned. The only real benchmark I have was a 80-140km/hr speed run with the racelogic VBOX sport what is very accurate and used by car and driver to benchmark their cars. We started out with a 80-140 speed of 3.92 seconds. After the tuning we were down to around 3.60 seconds. The car is much faster now that I can safely run up top. I ran the timing into knock and backed off about 2 degrees to be on the safe side.

The downside to you guys looking for built block setups and want to run over 13PSI of boost I think different MAFs are still going to be required as now I am sitting ~4.75 volts IIRC. I think anything over 14PSI will peg the MAFs.

For what its worth my K value changed about 15% from what it was with the 2.75" boost tubes. So its fair to say that there was about a 15% increase in flow around the MAFs with the larger boost tubes.

Thanks for posting the feedback Mitch. This is about what I calculated as far as flow increase.

This sure makes you wonder how some others get away with 2.5" charge pipes. :)

Mitco39 09-08-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2956659)
Thanks for posting the feedback Mitch. This is about what I calculated as far as flow increase.

This sure makes you wonder how some others get away with 2.5" charge pipes. :)

Anytime Sasha, shes much quicker and safer now.

Lower boost? and a ton of timing? That or everyone is pulling into their MAFs and no one really pays much attention to it and just changes their fuel comp tables to suit? I mean it works but man it doesn't leave much room for error. Maybe thats a contributing factor to many of these popped engines? Who knows its all speculation.

COSMO 09-08-2014 10:50 AM

My gtm tt kit came with 3" tubes..


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