GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

MMC Racing

If Sam had HANDS ON experience with the kit, then I would have valued his opinion at 25 cents. He should have taken the high road.

Buddy Revell

I guess if you want to split hairs, he could've brought it up in the form of a question, like "How is Stillen going to account for the fact that the MAFs are taking readings before the intake charge is cooled?" since, yes, he doesn't have first-hand knowledge about the Stillen kit. However, it's absolutely fine to bring up the issue for discussion, hopefully with the Stillen guys sharing their perspective about this issue, since they do have first-hand knowledge about how everything will work in their kit.

SAM@GTM

And i would not even value your input for 1 shiny penny, Somebody asked a technical questions and i answerd it, that is what i do here .

You have a problem with my answer or you did not see the value in it then fine goahead and challenge it and explain to me how's having hands on experience on the stillen kit will have anything to do with the facts that I stated in regards to the air temp reading.

Sam

kdoske

MMC Racing

Get on the GTM bandwagon or get rolled

lemansz20

No offense and all, but YOU have no idea about their tuning or design. All you are doing is speculating so I think I would agree that your opinion on the matter to me will be taken with a grain of salt. I am not knocking you, but be real, you have NO idea what they are doing there, and for all you know it will perform better b/c they did more research then you. GOOD EXAMPLE: The plenums on the 350z, when upgraded produced more power, did AP or Cosworth think they knew more then nissan? No, they simply created something that was an improvement on a factory design.

SAM@GTM

We are done with all the Parts documentation, Here is a good pic of all the components for the GTM supercharger kit for the 370Z

We will be back with some more info...

Stay tuned

Sam

JB-370z

Thank you Sam!!! Ready for the rest of the media!!! After you release the media go enjoy the super bowl and have some beers to celibrate!

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NYBladeZ

As much as I value Sam's take on the stillen kit it's the GTM release I'm waiting on how bout some info on that!

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iceman21_23

sam don't worry about it; let the haters hate. The GTM kit is sounding very promising and im looking forward to one day putting this kit on my car. Thank you for taking the time and dedication to develop such a kit for the 370z community. The more competition the better it is for all of us 370z enthusiast.

MMC Racing

Hater's hate is so overused. I don't hate GTM nor do I love Stillen. I like to see product's prove themselves. Grandstanding by one shop on a not even released product by another is just poor business practices.

But I guess I should flash one of these at you and call it a day right? Or am I generalizing?

1slow370

We all need to chill no vendor wars here please unless you are arguing over prices and who is going to be cheaper. We love all our vendors here and when the units are DONE we will make decisions individually as to which one we want to buy.

Sam, no amount of cross vendor fire will distract us from ragging you about getting the damn thing done (I kid)

Now just to be sporting here is my question about the MAF placement between the kits, How come no one is setting the MAF sensors in a draw through setup so they can actually measure the volume of air entering the engine before it is compressed, and splicing the IAT wiring off to a manifold sensor to accurately measure the incoming air temperature? I restate my question of whether or not you were able to upgrade the MAP sensor to gauge the amount of pressure in the manifold, or by retaining a mostly stock setup do you plan to simply adjust the fuel tables and VE to go around the problem.

Oh and I do mean that unless you want to create vendor hate here everyone just needs to STFU

Buddy Revell

I have to disagree. I don't think it's grandstanding. Sam brought up what he feels is a problem with the design of Stillen's kit, specifically the location of the MAFS. Now if there's something that Stillen has done to address this that outside observers can't see, there's nothing wrong with them clarifying it, to ease concerns potential buyers may have. And although early adopters are always at risk of being guinea pigs for things that go wrong, it's always better to address as many potential concerns as possible beforehand.

MMC Racing

I always believe in the market. The market is where products are proven one way or another. If the problem is as bad as Sam claims here, then Stillen's testing will prove that out and 1 of 2 things will happen. They will release it anyway or redesign it. If they release it anyway, it will fail to be a successful product. The market will choose the winner.

I don't think any company should have to do tit for tat responses to questions by a competitor on a not yet released product. Let SAM deliver some actual data (which he doesn't have of course) showing a problem and then pull out the popcorn, sit back, and watch. Sam is not some impartial 3rd party here, he has profit motive.

Buddy Revell

These are legit questions that potential customers/early adopters should know about. Asking these questions is a lot different than just mindless bashing. Nothing wrong with getting as much info as possible before spending a pretty large amount of money, right?

However, to make sure things don't continue to spiral off the original topic, I do think that questions about the Stillen kit should be asked on their thread and that questions about GTM's kits should be on this thread.