Forced Induction Kit Vendor Feedback Thread
 

I think that it is a good idea to have a thread where everyone can post up whatever they like about the vendors who are supplying kits to the VQ37 market via this forum.

Both positive and negative info is welcome. Bitch, moan, cry, praise, nut-hug, say whatever you feel should be known about the vendors on this forum. This way everything can be in one place and no one should need to post their opinions in other peoples threads. Other threads will then be able to stay on-topic and anyone who has any off-topic positive or negative opinions that they would like to share with the community, wont clutter up legitimate threads.

People can express their opinions here and argue them back and forth to their hearts content.

At the very least this thread could be entertaining.......

I'll start......

Boosted Performance Single Turbo Kit looks awesome. I love the handmade aspect of it and the obvious love and attention to detail that is being put into every kit. That being said, its gay because it wont fit my car!

Fast Intentions TT Kit looks like it was carved by the very hands of God himself! I would love to be able to match it up to my FI full 2.5inch exhaust and the quality would be amazing! That being said, its gay because it wont fit my car!

GTM TT kits looks great. i love the fact that they have developed their own parts (Oil pan etc.) and that it will fit any VQ37 on the planet. That being said, its gay because I have been waiting forever for it and still don't know when (if?) it will arrive!

I can appreciate your honesty! But like the kit I believe the oil pan should be put in that same sentence.

Also how sure are you the gtm kit will fit ur car? Have you seem another aussie ride with the kit? Who is telling you it will fit? Cuz we all know how far his word goes. I'm sure if the gtm is supposed to "fit" you could make the FI kit fit.

Either I'm reading it wrong or you wrote it wrong. "oil pan should be put in that same sentence"......I don't follow. Oil pan is also gay?!? I is confused.

In the same sentence u used the gtm kit. They make their own kits and oil pan. Haven't seen the kit OR anyone with the oil pan yet I think.

GTM TT kits have already been fitted to several RHD and AT cars.

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...australia.html

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-journal.html

All other vendors have specifically stated that their kits don't fit (or haven't been tested to fit) RHD and AT. I don't really want to be a guinea pig and have to mangle something to get it to fit.

So you're saying that the oil pan is garbage and doesn't fit/work?

Martin82 and his Stage1.5 SC is running the GTM oil pan. I have to admit it's pretty sweet.

Cool. Didn't know they had em in Australia.
Who said garbage? You picking it up in the morning or sumthin? Don't make too much noise!

That's cool. I was wondering if anyone had it. I forgot martin did. If I'm not mistaken bunch of us got a good laugh out of the end part of his thread. I'm sure the others in the gtm group buy would like to see it.

I thought that you were saying that there is something wrong with the oil pan and that is why I shouldn't mention it in my second post?!?

Anyway......heading off topic, due to confusion....

GTM really need to have access to their manuals on their website! Their manuals look awesome but no one ever seems to know where to find them. The links are there but with no way to get to them!

I caught that too...It was pretty funny

During the building phase, it was borderline infuriating getting updates from GTM. They did cut me a sweet deal on the kit, and was only 30 days late for my time hack. Which looking back in retrospect is an act of God. They shipped all my parts I sold to the people who bought them, and packeged it really well. They even cleaned up my oil cooler for resale after one sale fell through because it looked like hell. They allowed me to make payments at my convienience (as long as it was paid up by delivery), so I sent them a mortgage sized check bi-weekly. When picking up the car, I was there for two days and roughly 8 hours each day waiting. That was annoying and my Wife was running low on patience.

The craftsmanship on the kit though is superb. Everything fits so tight, it's a miracle everything made it in. The intercoolers are millimeters behind the crash bar, the oil coolers barely fit between the intercoolers and the bumper. The SC oil coolers sit behind the fangs and the filters are right there too. The radiator, fans and shroud are b!tchen and look boss in the engine bay. I got a good first hand look of the oil pans and the baffling system. I'm happy to have it in my car. It was an inexpensive upgrade.

They installed my sways, rotors, lines, pads, clutch, flywheel, and CSC. Everything fit perfectly and they did an outstanding job with it. They warned me about the clutch being on the ragged edge. I wasn't sure if Sam was trying to upsell me or not so I took my chances. Well, the clutch gets soft when I'm beating on it, especially in the heat. They also shopped around to find the perfect meth tank to install in the hatch. I'm glad they went with what they did. It's large, and all I need to do is cut out the carpet for everything to fit flush (the neck and cap will stick out). I should also mention that they finally unf@cked my O2 sensors. They discovered the wiring problem, the pre cats in the post cat location, and of course the melted chaos. Unfortunately for me, they definitely got their money to diagnose and fix it. I will be fair and say they cut me a deal on the hours.

I consider myself fortunate to have the experience I had with them go well (for the most part). All the parts were already there, but they are too busy for their own good. Every lift has a car, and the floorspace is filled with more cars. Because of this, they didn't start tearing into my car until March (it was picked up and delived at the beginning of December). They ran two initial dyno tests on their dynojet and then their new Mustang dyno. As jobs took priority, mine went into the backburner, but they never told me whether it was on hold or not. That was irritating. If there isn't going to be any meaningful progress, tell me so I'm not expecting it. I had second thoughts about the whole thing a few times, especially after seeing the final bill and how much I dumped into it.

I will give props to Sam for working so much on his broken leg. That whole thing became a downward spiral as most of us know to his health. Those health issues are no excuse for customer service that could use some major improvement, but I noticed and appreciate that. When I went to leave the first time, it was discovered a relay had gone bad to my rear tail lights. I called them and drove back. I was also concerned about some excessive squeaking. They replaced a pulley, the belt, and fixed the relay free of charge. They also topped off my meth and gave me almost an entire gallon for free. When my car destroyed a pulley and belt, Sam didn't hesitate to pick up the car on his dime and fix it. There was no arguing, I sent pics, an email and a call. When waiting at GTM, I had great conversations with nearly all of the GTM staff about opinions, the forum, projects, future products, etc. It was pretty awesome learning about things before they put out the word. So cudos for that as well.

For all the communication problems, the waiting, the money, it all faded when I was able to hear her for the first time. They kept telling me how great it sounded. I heard a familiar tone on the rollers when they strapped her down, but it sounded meaner, deeper down low, sweeter mids, and a howl that would make a wolf feel sheepish. The test drive was a revelation. The car wasn't finished, and looked it, but the power was just so smooth and easy. It was exactly what I had in mind when going with this kit. My Wife even got in on the test drive and it sold every penny I spent on the car to her. It even sold her the idea of getting meth installed. Now a big negative for me is that when I delivered the car to them, it was clean as a whistle. When I got it back, it was dirty as hell, so dirty I had to clean the windshield three times to be able to drive home. It's a small thing that goes a long way. Spend the f@cking money and clean your customers car when you deliver it. This was the same thing when I destroyed the belt. It was returned dirty with belt particles in the engine bay. I'm just now scheduling an appointment to get the engine bay detailed, the car clayed, polished, buffed, and waxed from top to bottom. I'm so busy, I can't even clean my own damn car.

In closing, I'm aware of GTM's shortcomings and their strengths. I'm completely satisfied after having the car for 8 months, and 60/40 with my personal dealings with GTM over the course of a year. If I were to build my motor by choice, or because I killed it, I would definitely stil consider them. Okay, now you guys can continue your bjtching ;)

I'd love to be reviewing my GTM CARB certified supercharger kit right now..

I was the F.I prototype car, took a lot longer than expected but Tony always kept me updated. I could not be happier with my kit, or anything else they did on my car for that matter. (Seats, gauges, boost controller, body kit, oil cooler, exhaust, etc. I wouldn't have it any other way it's as simple as that. After over 2,000 hard miles (1.5k by me and 1k by FI) we have had zero issues except the damage that's been done to my Michelin's ;)

I wanted Boost Performance's turbo kit because I could afford it but it doesn't fit my AT....I would still buy if they would put a smaller turbo than the one that comes on the regular kit but then again only one can wish :'(

Any news on the aam competition kit?

Haven't seen anything recently, at least not on here

I feel like this thread is going to go off the rails in three ... two ... one ...

I don't believe turbo size would be the problem. I've never been under an AT Z or G but from the pictures that tranny is massive. I think the problem would be routing the cross-over pipe from the driver side hearder.

I love my GTM kit. They make good stuff, it's everything else they do poorly. It did take another tuner to really make the car feel like a factory FI car. Sam's tune always felt a little "aftermarket FI kit".

There's also a few engineering choices that make me scratch my head, like daisy-chaining the turbo water lines so the hot coolant coming out of one turbo is used to cool the other one. WTF? I did buy mine in 2011, and it seems like they started going downhil after that.

Now, had Fast Intentions had kits shipping out when I bought my kit, that's what I would have.

BP - I'll save my complete comments until after install and a few miles. Since the kit is in hand I will comment on those aspects. Sasha is the epitome of customer service and his attention to detail is second to none. When I opened my box it included everything (even zip ties, drill bits, proper tap, etc.) I need to install short of common tools any man, or woman for that matter, should have around the house. Every part in the kit is top notch.

GTM - The ones I've had personal experience with are great. Make good power and seem to use quality parts. What I've seen on this forum shows me that GTM has a lot to learn about running a business.

F.I. - No personal experience with any of their products but the TT kit is a thing of beauty. Tony's customer service is extremely good. He was even willing to build me a custom F.I. exhaust to mate up to my BP kit since I don't need the entire thing. Says a lot when another manufacturer is willing to customize his product to support another companies F.I. kit.

That's really the rub- customer service and after-sales support need a complete overhaul. Other than a few quirks I wouldn't have done myself, their Garrett kit is fantastic. There's a reason it was the benchmark for this platform for a while. Unfortunately, they're not responding well to the competition who has brought some spectacular kits to market.

Boosted Performance Test Car - Sasa had my car for exactly how long he said he would. He called me just about every day to let my know what was going on. I got tons of pictures and he even let me input some feedback. He is a great guy all around and his kit is top notch. Anyone considering a turbo should take a hard look at this kit.

I should point out I have not had one issue with my kit, but I know that IF I did that Sasa would pull through for me and that's a level of service rarely found these days.

The BP kit even comes with the bits and taps? That's incredible. I was even thinking to myself how crazy it would be if a kit came with all necessary tools...and there it is. :tup:

Most if not all of the fittings already come with teflon tape on them

Correct. The kit comes with two drill bits (pilot and final) for taping the manifold, as well as a 1/8" NPT tap. A roll of teflon tape is included, even tough all the fitting already have it wrapped around the threads already.

RTV is included for the oil pan, zip ties are included as well, as is the oil filter. Oil filter housing is bolted to the bracket, as is the oil cooler. The kit is a lot like assembling Lego.

All you need is oil to and tools to complete the install. The idea is to start the install, and not have to run to the store for anything. We all know how annoying that can be.

Any supercharged setups in here? :wtf2:

Theres a couple of builds underway right now so hopefully those guys can chime in with their feedback soon enough.

Do you ever plan on upping production and maybe figuring something out for the AT guys? I could see a lot of G37 owners potentially jumping on your kit if you could make enough of them and cover more of the VQ market.

Actually, for anyone looking into your kit, are there any available right now or have they all been sold? When are you planning on another run? I'm pretty sure that demand should be there.....

I am in the process of looking in to sourcing some of the fabrication out and increasing production volumes. It is hard to find a somebody that can meet my specs as far as quality and tolerances go. This is also not cheap.

I will not be taking deposits on these kits however (provided I can source some of the fabrication out), and have you guys waiting for a long time for the product to be built and ready to ship. That is bad business, and somebody is already doing it...so I don't want to be a copy cat.

As for the A/T, at the moment I do not have plans for this. I don't think it is possible to fit this kit on the A/T cars due to the large transmission oil pan.

Awww :'( :ugh2:

In the process of finishing my build with Sasha's Boosted Performance kit. From my build thread:

After months of deliberation, and the orginal plan of going with a GTM supercharger, Sashas outstanding service and knowleged convinced me this kit was the way to go, some deciding factors for those on the fence:

1. FANTASTIC customer service, alsways quick to respond to messages, easy to work with, and handles his business with percision, he does what he says he will do, period.

2. Self install, I was considering the GTM supercharger, which is aslo self install, and the VSR kit, which is an in-house build, after reading the instruction manual for the BP kit, it is no sweat to install.

3.Twin scroll setup, looking at dyno graphs the power curve is similar to a supercharger curve, it just makes a lot more tq, but the twin scroll works well from what evidence I see.

4. ALL high quality parts, Treadstone IC, tial BOV and gates, turbowerks pump, etc. Also the crafstmanship is excellent on the handbuild, did I mention handbuilt parts?

5. Design, I was skeptical of having a turbo mounted under the car, but the kit is well thoughout and the turbo is tucked up above the front cradle away from danger, and keeps the turbo heat out of the already heat soaked engine bay.

Fast Intentions, I do not need to elaborate how happy I am to do business with them.

Fast Intentions TT(and CBE) "customers" are not customers, we are family and treated as such. Fast Intentions will play a large role in what direction I take in my next(supercar) purchase and you bet I will be calling them for work on that car. Yes, my experience was THAT good.

Car is still perfect, Tony calls every week for feedback.

CJ motorsports
Specialty Z(their clutch is amazing...jesus what a great piece and IMO the only thing good enough to combine with this kit...sorry OSG, you have been outdone)

All vendors that will get my business over and over.

Probably have the oldest GTM SC, so my experience with ordering and service was at a different time. I will say when I need to contact GTM they talk to me on the phone and answer my questions as needed.

Overall build of my kit is top notch, only issue I have had has been my power steering line but GTM has been here to help and get it fixed. I make the power I should and so far (knocks on wood), the only real work I have had to do is the maintenance of the kit, such as fluid, belts, filters.

Overall, with my experience, I would recommend GTM as they make quality FI kits and have the history (as do others) to back up their claims and quality.

I've put in about 40k miles on my GTM kit. For what it's worth, it's a good kit. Although it is a tad more complicated, the twin turbo setup is so much fun. You can't go wrong with Fast Intentions, and that's the route I'd go for if I were to do this again.

Sam promised to ship my charger by the 15th. If I don't have a tracking number by the following Monday I want my money back. I'm so done with this. :shakes head:

Good luck..