Did you mess with the tune at all?

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How do you know it was bad fuel?

Well in any case I just dropped off the Zenophobe at VSR. Should be done by Thursday night. Cosmogirl. .. Bobby said that he would have to dig out your motor to take pics... but also said noting has changed as far as the outward appearance so your pictures should still be accurate.

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Could anyone elaborate on the missing wideband? I thought the Z came stock with widebands.

Thanks

Turbo Install is done today. Stay tuned for dyno numbers later this evening.

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Quick question for the dyno... does suspension play a role in how hard it can press the tires to the dyno? I have a tein Windmaster and I'm curious if I should bother setting the stiffness. Sorry if it's a dumb question. . I'm not a car expert, just a computer geek with way to much money to burn and major issues with making good financial decisions.

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Nope. The car is strapped down tight.

Grazzi

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Here are some pics of the install

Custom piping and the whole 9

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What were the numbers?

Hasn't been dynoed yet. Hopefully today.

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Bobby and those guys are good. He helped me out last year.

I have the pics and the vids. Uploading to Youtube and image shack right now and I'm going to post a FULL REVIEW. but here is the TLDR version

THIS KIT IS AWESOME AND PUTS DOWN SOME SERIOUS ******* POWER. 533whp on 93 Octane with 10psi on a stock block.

Very nice. Torque?

My fault. 467 peak then flattens, AND I MEAN FLATTENS at about 445 until max HP.

That's got to be a hell of a lot of fun to drive.

Tbh I need new tires. I have a great suspension but the tires I have just don't keep the power to the ground, so I have to go easy.

Your gonna blow that motor .

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^lol this guy.... what happened no more love?

Love? No do some searching in here and you will read that that is too much for stock block. I'm not saying any more . You will see. I looking forward to reading your I blew my motor now vsr is building me a motor thread.

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Hmmmm ok guy.

It's more than I'm comfortable with, but there are plenty of guys running that with no issues. And saying you're looking forward to him blowing a motor is just being a ****.

Cool. I'll PM you if it happens. I'd bake you a batch of cookies too but my maid only cleans.

In any case I was at the shop every day and about 6 people showed up with the same kit. They've all had it for years, one guy has had it for over 3 years running 100 octane making over 600 to the wheels. no problems.

So unless you want to put your tinfoil hat on and say all of these people were plants, then I'd say it's a solid and proven kit.

That's just my opinion though. Like I said... I'll PM you and even include one of those cool dancing emoticons with it.

Most the time it's that wtq that blows motors. I'm opposed to pushing a motor to it's limits everyday for the sake of a dyno number. Safe and reliable all day, plus you'll sleep better.

S&R Performance single turbo kit?
 

Adobe, can't wait to see your kit, hopefully I'll get a chance if we get some meets going in Tampa.


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Totally agree. But to date no one running this setup on a stock block has blown their motor, and alot of them are putting up higher numbers than me.

There was a case where a turbo went bad, but it was replaced at no cost to the owner. Out of a total of over 90 kits, It seems the batting average is pretty decent.

I don't want to come off as "My kit won't break I believe!", so I'm just sticking to numbers. The VQ can run up to 700 safely, and my tune is well below that thresh hold.

:icon18: Hahahaha... Ok. Where is proof of this??? Cuz Id love to see it! And everyone else. You can't just throw out numbers with ZERO data to back it up.

I never said one thing about the turbo kit. It's the motor.

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Well.. if its e85 that number is pretty close. FI has Faceglides ride on e85 making 630+

Yeah...I know. Wheres the proof, data, dyno, anything. :confused:

This is still a long way off from 700 and who says that even at 630 its "SAFE". The only way to back up any number with the word safe or reliable in it is to pound on it for several months or years. At 700 and driving it hard I highly doubt this would constitute a safe motor.

Faceglide has been on his 630 for a whole 3 weeks? Yes, it may hold for years..BUT..there is zero proof of this at this point and wont be for many, many months.

Coming from the 35DE world we all know anything past 425 is borrowed time. We had seen many engines let go around that number and above. Do you think the internals on the 37vhr are so much better that you can push 700? Yes the motor has improvements but not any where near that much.

Sorry to thread jack. But dont throw out ignorant claims and dumb up the community.

Here is a common picture of the rods.

Can this engine last above 600whp, yes but probably not long. If you want any use of long time VHR engine look at Phunk. Runs the greddy TT kit close to if not at 600whp on a stock engine and has been going for a long while (think he is past 60k miles with boost).

HR - VHR - DE

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I have seen a stock block z motor blow with a GTM stage 1 TT kit making 500whp this was a friends car I have some pictures of it. Sharpcoop's stock block almost blew at 590whp when he tore down his engine before he built it a bent rod was found. I would not feel safe running a stock block z at 600whp it's on borrowed time. If you are then run E85 or 100 octane at a minimum.

Just curious but if someone is pushing near 600 WHP what is that at the crank? I don't want to go over 500WHP unless I build the bottom end.

Is anyone in here talking hypotheticals and then requiring numbers a tuner? Didn't think so. The point to finding the sweet spot UNIVERSALLY is getting to the effective compression ratio. safe is 12.0.1 for aluminum heads tuned for 91 pump. I'm running 14.3 on a formula designed for 91 pump. But I'm tuned for 93 which is SAFE on the block. Now, if you want to talk about wear and tear on the other components, I'm all ears but I've already upgraded everything you can think of.

Besides the Fact that I'm upgrading to steel forged in about 2 months I'm not terribly worried about blowing it.

again, It's all in the tune, and no-one has had a problem with their motor since this kit's inception. is 3 years a long enough time? Probably not if you want your car to last for 25... but you have to pay to play... so stop complaining. People wouldn't be in the FI forum if they didn't have the $$$ needed to support their hobby.

There have been people who say that our Z's lose about 17% on the dyno from crank to wheels. so 500 * 1.17 = 585 at the crank. again... ROUGHLY... not an exact formula.

Dude people are not complaining your taking it the wrong way. Guys here look out for each other and those are dangerous numbers without being able to see cylinder pressure. Just don't want to see you stranded with a rod sticking out of your hood lol

That's what I couldn't remember, so ya I'm not going over 500 for my own piece of mind.