Oh yeah. I saw Sam in person over 6 times and his voice on the phone cannot be mistaken. Only 2 guys that I talked to from GTM tons of times over the past 2 years : Sam and Mike. I have never talked to George though, not that I can remember.

I'm sure you have had your experiences and find this very hard to believe, a lot of people did. You can only accidentally step on sh*t so many times before someone says wtf is going on here.

I saw those boxes and shook my head myself. If you look at them closely, there is no other way those part would fit if it had a lot of good packaging. You see its not cheap to ship to Guam. Especially big boxes like those. How can DestinyZ use that intercooler without the other boxes of parts? Is he going to purposely scratch his own parts and bend it?

Scratches, bends, things happen in transport when shipped but even then, great companies like Fast Intentions fix issues like this immediately. Time and time agan. But how do you explain oil and metal shavings?

I knew Joe personally, been to his house, saw the parts, seen the issues he dealt with. Heard him talk to Sam. Sam told him his tune was good, joe said it's running really really rich. Sam says no it's good. One month later his car won't start because the plugs are so damn fouled. He made a video of us working outside of a mall pulling his plugs because it wouldn't start. I don't know why he didn't post it.

When ithis debacle was fixed and joe made due and ate the bullet. The kit I itself have him other problems. Joe says at the time JC, let's run our cars and
see if I'm really making power. At this time, I was only running Injen intakes and my then crappy Ark exhaust with a 75 shot and no tune. 1st gear I pull half a car on him, 2nd gear I jump out half a car and kept pulling, 3rd gear a constant slow pull, shift into 4th and I stop, to my surprise I I was about 3 cars+ ahead of him. I'm thinking he may have stopped awhile ago. Till I hit my brakes and see him blow by.....

His reaction was lets say not good. His quote was "F**k I spent about 10K, dealt with BS and here you are with a 75 shot blowing my doors off. How much did you spend?" Me : "So far about 2.5K". Him: "I should had just went nitrous!"

At that time, I was the second guy who went nitrous using the forum as a reference for users. Those who haven't dealt with them yet. Use caution. When it happens to you don't say you haven't been warned. Those who want to turn a blind eye and have faith good luck. This was posted to show what happened to a member of the community because it was cleaned up a long time ago.

Can we just get those refunds out? Then we can talk about this mess of a marketing failure.

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Cleaned up is probably the wrong words for it. More like forgotten.

Luckily I had been warned long ago when my tuner said he would never install another GTM kit for a customer again in his life. He said the whole way it was a nightmare. This was years ago. Good thing I caught a whiff of that rotten egg when I did.

How long ago was this ?

My tuner actually said the same thing to me, but being the genius I am I got in the MHI group buy anyways since I'm installing myself :ugh2: Starting to feel like I should've listened to them.

3+ years

Not that long though... Hmm I am starting to feel kind of leery now.

umm for every un-named tuner that will not touch GTM, there are ones like Z1 that would work with them... i wouldn't pass judgement just because of such statements right away... thats really short sighted way to look at things... by the way is the un-named tuner Forged Performance?

am not in the group buy nor i could care less about GTM, but the forum is starting to go to ***** because of the way every single thread, that just because it's related to GTM, becomes a GTM bashing thread... I get it, you have had bad customer service experience with GTM, you bought another kit from another vendor, you feel burned because you bought the more expensive version of their Turbo kit, you have to wait for so long for the MHI to come out, you have to get a refund because you cannot wait anymore for MHI kit for personal/financial reasons, you are being asked to wait for refunds... i get it, i feel for you, and i agree your experience needs to be known... but for the love of god, please don't turn the370z.com to another 350z forum... i mean please by all means just start another thread for that...

this is the thread for that... If you don't like it leave :)

cool, my bad, i thought you started the thread to be more constructive with plans... it was cool and informative to initially read through the posts and see what ppl are doing with waste gates and other supporting mods... but you did include a statement to ask ppl about their status on their refunds...

in my defense, it just started to get frustrating when everyone is beating a dead horse and bringing up that guam story... which is ********...

I hope people keep certain companies accountable for their shady business practices. Perhaps this forum wouldn't ever turn 350zish if it weren't for said company leaving bad reputation everywhere. Just check gtm credibility over there. Its time for consumers to get smart.
Throw a few dollars to get paying sponsor title and manipulate mods to clean up and delete bad publicity threads and rake in tons of cash on high priced kits and then $hit on everyone when the cow has been dried up. That JC thread I never heard or saw about. It's stuff like that, that keeo these shady business owner's around here. My350 has perma sticky threads of RA to warn people of shady business owners. Just something to think about.

I dont blame you, it frustrates me to see all that as well, but I guess thats what happens sometimes. Its unfortunate that this all has to happen to so many people, but apparently thats how gtm does business. This thread wasn't made to turn out like this, but several people including me are having a poor experience with gtm, so its good to have this information available for everyone ya know?