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SouthArk370Z 11-11-2013 08:53 AM

Just got back from running the tattletale test. Removed the rear hood seal. Taped two pieces of twine (some fluorescent pink stuff I had hanging around, the stuff you see used on construction sites to hold a spirit level) to the back edge of the hood where the creases in the hood are and another to the wiper arm (centerline of car). Up to about 30-35 mph, they didn't move at all. Above that, they indicated that some air was going into the engine compartment.

But that may have just been turbulence. I parked and turned the A/C on to turn the radiator fan on. Engine was well warmed up (170F oil temp) but I could feel no heat coming from the rear of the hood. On inspection, I found the gap between the hood and the engine compartment is very small.

My conclusion is that removing the seal doesn't accomplish much, if anything. Off to put the seal back on.
Edit: the fasteners for the seal are not evenly spaced, so it's all but impossible to install it wrong.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2563939)
Just got back from running the tattletale test. Removed the rear hood seal. Taped two pieces of twine (some fluorescent pink stuff I had hanging around, the stuff you see used on construction sites to hold a spirit level) to the back edge of the hood where the creases in the hood are and another to the wiper arm (centerline of car). Up to about 30-35 mph, they didn't move at all. Above that, they indicated that some air was going into the engine compartment.
But that may have just been turbulence. I parked and turned the A/C on to turn the radiator fan on. Engine was well warmed up (170F oil temp) but I could feel no heat coming from the rear of the hood. On inspection, I found the gap between the hood and the engine compartment is very small.
My conclusion is that removing the seal doesn't accomplish much, if anything. Off to put the seal back on.

So it stands to reason that if we opened that gap up somehow we would be making matters worse as far as airflow is concerned? Thanks for actually testing it, too much of this is theory.

SouthArk370Z 11-11-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2563945)
So it stands to reason that if we opened that gap up somehow we would be making matters worse as far as airflow is concerned? Thanks for actually testing it, too much of this is theory.

Looks like it. :(

I'm rather surprised the the radiator fans wouldn't push at least a little bit of air out when parked. Where is the air going?

It would be interesting to see a similar test run with the undertray vented. But I'm not gonna hang my head out the door and look under the car while going 60 mph. :)

MyKindaGuise 11-11-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2563965)
Looks like it. :(

I'm rather surprised the the radiator fans wouldn't push at least a little bit of air out when parked. Where is the air going?

It would be interesting to see a similar test run with the undertray vented. But I'm not gonna hang my head out the door and look under the car while going 60 mph. :)

Has anyone looking into a very high static pressure fan setup yet? I know the GTM fans are better but does anyone have static pressure data on stock vs gtm?

dmhenderson 11-11-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2564052)
Has anyone looking into a very high static pressure fan setup yet? I know the GTM fans are better but does anyone have static pressure data on stock vs gtm?

Man, I just loathe to give GTM any more of my money.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2564060)
Man, I just loathe to give GTM any more of my money.

What happened with GTM?

dmhenderson 11-11-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564062)
What happened with GTM?

They're a forum sponsor. Not worth getting into. PM me if you're really interested but it's probably nothing you haven't heard before.

SouthArk370Z 11-11-2013 10:19 AM

Unless there is somewhere for the air to go, upping the pressure from the fan won't do much good. It sounds to me that the engine compartment is pretty well sealed (not totally or the engine would overheat all the time).

Where does the air vent from the engine compartment? I just made a look around the engine compartment and underneath and didn't see any vents. They've got to be there somewhere. It might help to enlarge them.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2564072)
Unless there is somewhere for the air to go, upping the pressure from the fan won't do much good. It sounds to me that the engine compartment is pretty well sealed (not totally or the engine would overheat all the time).

Where does the air vent from the engine compartment? I just made a look around the engine compartment and underneath and didn't see any vents. They've got to be there somewhere. It might help to enlarge them.

I'd assume that the air exits underneath the car behind the undertray. There's really nowhere else it could go, right?

Felix 808 11-11-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564077)
I'd assume that the air exits underneath the car behind the undertray. There's really nowhere else it could go, right?


Yeah that has been my assessment, that it gets pulled out under the car.

DIGItonium 11-11-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2563894)
This is probably the hood many of you would like. It keeps all the factory lines of the hood and just generates 2 parallel lines opening to vent air in the front. For those worried about the weather, even with mesh or a grill, there are other options to consider.

Hood to consider:

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Chuck33079 11-11-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2564084)
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If I end up with a vented hood, that's the one.

SouthArk370Z 11-11-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564077)
I'd assume that the air exits underneath the car behind the undertray. There's really nowhere else it could go, right?

Sounds reasonable to me. I'll jack the car up later and take a closer look.

DIGItonium 11-11-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2564086)
If I end up with a vented hood, that's the one.

The vent closest to the windshield works great. The other one doesn't do much. Another drawback is weight. With the reinforcements put in place the hood is several pounds heavier than the stock hood. I could care less, though. It's functional and easy on the eyes.

Chuck33079 11-11-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2564092)
Sounds reasonable to me. I'll jack the car up later and take a closer look.

That was a wild-*** guess, so I may be completely wrong. It just seems like the only place that air can go.


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