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Baer383 11-19-2012 06:17 PM

2013 SC Nismo stage 1.5 GTM
 
Some of you know I had a 2010 sport/touring with this kit on it,it ended up making 470rwhp 342rwtq but after 6 months of fun my 7at gave way so I put it back to stock and traded it in for 2013 Nismo then proceeded to put my GTM stage 1.5 on my new car for Z Nationals which I finished it enough to drive it there but my tune wasn't done.
Fast forward to today I finish my tune and brought it to Jon @ Z1 Motorsports for some dyno time first pull was 483rwhp 355rwtq Jon said the tune good but it kept leaning out on the very top end,so Jon played around with it for awhile and I asked him to play with the VVEL he said my ROM won't allow it so a few hours later.

No VVEL No Methanol 73deg sunny day it ended up at 516rwhp 383rwtq
I also talked to Sam @ GTM today and he was happy for me but not surprised about the numbers he said with the tune on the money numbers like this should be there,so here is the dyno sheet.

http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...td-numbers.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...7-img-0405.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...6-img-0404.jpg

elperuano 11-19-2012 06:37 PM

Nice numbers, must be fun. R u plan in on meth n VVEL tunin later on?

Trips 11-19-2012 06:39 PM

Nice :)

Baer383 11-19-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2023688)
Nice numbers, must be fun. R u plan in on meth n VVEL tunin later on?

Jon said my ROM won't support VVEL and as of now only 8 ROM file do,as far as the meth goes you should see the size of my for sale ad for my Snow Performance kit in the for sale section.:tiphat:

elperuano 11-19-2012 06:58 PM

Lol nice.. Wonder why some cars have the ROM and others don't.

theDreamer 11-19-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2023733)
Lol nice.. Wonder why some cars have the ROM and others don't.

VVEL tuning is still beta software.
It is the same when Uprev first allowed tuning on the Z, it took awhile for all the ECU to be unlocked.

Baer383 11-19-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2023737)
VVEL tuning is still beta software.
It is the same when Uprev first allowed tuning on the Z, it took awhile for all the ECU to be unlocked.

:iagree:

Rwilliams8586 11-19-2012 07:05 PM

Well done
 
Man, you wasted no time at all. Nice job- great numbers!

Ryan

Baer383 11-19-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwilliams8586 (Post 2023752)
Man, you wasted no time at all. Nice job- great numbers!

Ryan

Man you don't know the half of it,

1.disassemble car and sell parts on the forum
2.put car back to stock go to dealer negotiate for a 2013 Nismo
3.drive car for 1 week to get stuff I need to put my SC in
4.gut car reassemble,tune,go to Z Nationals,take 1st in my class and 2ND in peoples choice,all this in 30days with a full time job:ugh2:

LCR Autowerks 11-19-2012 07:17 PM

good numbers.

elperuano 11-19-2012 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2023737)
VVEL tuning is still beta software.
It is the same when Uprev first allowed tuning on the Z, it took awhile for all the ECU to be unlocked.

Ahhhh ok gotcha

SPOHN 11-19-2012 08:04 PM

Can't wait to drive it. :icon23:

Baer383 11-19-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2023843)
Can't wait to drive it. :icon23:

kiss my :icon23:lol

Nixlimited 11-19-2012 10:42 PM

Congrats on the numbers. How well did you do on the trade-in?

Baer383 11-20-2012 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2024132)
Congrats on the numbers. How well did you do on the trade-in?

I got 27700 it was a 2010 7at sport/touring with 8000 miles with a bad transmission

One_Quick_Z 11-20-2012 06:23 AM

Thats a great trade in! I only got 26.5K for mine which was an 09 touring sport with navi, it also had 14K miles on it though.






DAN

DCNISMO 11-20-2012 10:30 AM

Can the stock clutch hold that? I plan on getting the Stage 1.5 for my Nismo as well this winter.

leighspped 11-20-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2024607)
Can the stock clutch hold that? I plan on getting the Stage 1.5 for my Nismo as well this winter.

the real question is how long will it hold....

theDreamer 11-20-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2024607)
Can the stock clutch hold that? I plan on getting the Stage 1.5 for my Nismo as well this winter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leighspped (Post 2024619)
the real question is how long will it hold....

Correct, it can hold it and be fine but it will wear down faster.
There are a few guys that have done 450+HP with stock clutch and lasted 10-15k miles and then replaced it because it started to slip.

Baer383 11-20-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2024607)
Can the stock clutch hold that? I plan on getting the Stage 1.5 for my Nismo as well this winter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leighspped (Post 2024619)
the real question is how long will it hold....

Sam has told me that the stock clutch is good for 550rwhp,and some of these FI guys are getting 15-20k out of their stock clutch.

elperuano 11-20-2012 10:49 AM

Also depends on how much torque you're pushing out, will hold the horsepower fine but the torque is what will kill it. You supercharger guys should be fine.

pty370z 11-20-2012 10:49 AM

Baer, who did you buy the GTM Stage 1.5 SC from? Directly from Sam @ GTM?

Did you get the turn key or the tuner?

How much was it?

Thanks!

Baer383 11-20-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pty370z (Post 2024653)
Baer, who did you buy the GTM Stage 1.5 SC from? Directly from Sam @ GTM?

Did you get the turn key or the tuner?

How much was it?

Thanks!

I bought it from Sam@ GTM it's turn key I don't remember the cost it is close to what is on his web page.

DCNISMO 11-20-2012 11:42 AM

How do you get the initial tune? Send your ECU off to them? Or download it via the web and use the uprev cable to push it in?

symple84 11-20-2012 11:47 AM

how is the performance coming from a regular Z vs the NISMO? Worth the difference in price?

Baer383 11-20-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2024734)
How do you get the initial tune? Send your ECU off to them? Or download it via the web and use the uprev cable to push it in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by symple84 (Post 2024744)
how is the performance coming from a regular Z vs the NISMO? Worth the difference in price?

Sam sends me a tune via email I finished tuning it then went to the dyno and yes you upload it with the Uprev cable and software.

I should have bought the Nismo back in 2010:tup:

gabe3d 11-20-2012 12:00 PM

Very nice, this is probably the best power curve I've seen from any of the GTM stages. Very nice indeed. What are you running on the exhaust side?

Baer383 11-20-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe3d (Post 2024770)
Very nice, this is probably the best power curve I've seen from any of the GTM stages. Very nice indeed. What are you running on the exhaust side?

Thanks

Fast Intentions 18in resonators

gabe3d 11-20-2012 12:33 PM

I see, are you running the stock cats?

Baer383 11-20-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe3d (Post 2024824)
I see, are you running the stock cats?

Yes

SPOHN 11-20-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe3d (Post 2024824)
I see, are you running the stock cats?

Cause he's a pus. :tup:

Baer383 11-20-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2024996)
Cause he's a pus. :tup:

Hey be nice :icon23: head or you can't drive my car.:roflpuke2:

SPOHN 11-20-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2025002)
Hey be nice :icon23: head or you can't drive my car.:roflpuke2:

:tiphat:

wind.zero 11-21-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leighspped (Post 2024619)
the real question is how long will it hold....

Great numbers from the 1.5 and congrats on the NISMO

I am on the GTM Stage 1 SC kit (419 WHP / 350 WTQ 8PSI) and roll on the stock clutch. I have 18k miles and no slip yet.

First, I do not launch my NISMO because that’s a silly move. There is no traction, a lot of wheel hop, which results in an easy waste of over $1k of rubber quickly. From a roll, I have been known to redline 2nd, 3rd, and 4th often. I would not say I do this daily, but at least weekly. Mine is a DD.

That being said, I have set aside enough funds for a replacement clutch, flywheel, master cylinder, and CSC because I know at some point in time, the stock setup will fail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2024996)
Cause he's a pus. :tup:

I am a pus too, still on the OEM cats.

theDreamer 11-21-2012 07:34 AM

Yeah I am still on OEM cats, had one replaced recently under warranty because it "failed." ;)
I want to invest in a set of RTP so open it up a little but control the sound, heard TP & my exhaust and it gets a little raspy.

Baer383 11-21-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2026154)
Yeah I am still on OEM cats, had one replaced recently under warranty because it "failed." ;)
I want to invest in a set of RTP so open it up a little but control the sound, heard TP & my exhaust and it gets a little raspy.

That was the route that I was going to take until Tony @ FI said they wouldn't hold up under forced induction you will end up with all the packing coming put of the exhaust.

theDreamer 11-21-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2026163)
That was the route that I was going to take until Tony @ FI said they wouldn't hold up under forced induction you will end up with all the packing coming put of the exhaust.

Really? Well that sucks, I was going to get a set of FI RTP, guess my only choice is TP then.

Staples 11-21-2012 07:43 PM

I've put a good amount of miles on my resonated test pipes and they are holding up fine.

Are you sure he wasn't talking about high flow cats? I know with cats you run the risk of clogging / blowing out the comb because of the ridiculously hot temperatures they reach.

Beautiful setup, great numbers.

Baer383 11-21-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staples (Post 2027538)
I've put a good amount of miles on my resonated test pipes and they are holding up fine.

Are you sure he wasn't talking about high flow cats? I know with cats you run the risk of clogging / blowing out the comb because of the ridiculously hot temperatures they reach.

Beautiful setup, great numbers.

No I talked to Tony @ FI he said eventually the packing will come out so you should just buy test pipes,I'm sure he is right b/c he was willing to sell me the cheaper test pipes instead of the more expensive RTP's.

Z-it-right 12-28-2012 10:21 PM

Baer, did you have Z1 do your install of the GTM kit? I'm in NC and looking for someone close to do the Stage 1 or 1.5 on my NISMO.


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