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vo370z 10-22-2012 09:26 AM

Twin Turbo 370z vs GTR
 
I don't know if this question has been asked before but how would a twin turbo 370z stand up against the GTR ?

FairladyZ 10-22-2012 09:31 AM

GTR will probably still rape it

Mitco39 10-22-2012 09:37 AM

Depends, off the line you dont stand a chance since the GTR is AWD.

For arguments sake though
TT 370Z
HP: ~500 RWHP
Weight ~3500 lbs

GTR
HP: ~ 520-540 AWHP
Weight ~3800 lbs


So it would be close at a roll, but the GTR would get you on every shift.

But thats just the numbers.

XiP 10-22-2012 09:38 AM

Gtr >

MyKindaGuise 10-22-2012 09:47 AM

Depends on the build really. From all of the videos ive seen on youtube the TT kits seem to boost at like 5k rpms if you had a setup that could make bigger power earlier it would be better. You would need atleast 600+whp to take on a modded gtr though.

Can anyone confirm when our TT kits make full boost?

Jamielle@FP 10-22-2012 09:50 AM

All depends on the mods of the GT-R and what year. If its a 09-11 stock GT-R from a roll the Z will win. If the GT-R is modded with at least a midpipe and tune the GT-R will win.

sloboi 10-22-2012 11:23 AM

If you want a GT-R, buy a GT-R. Don't expect to match GT-R performance by buying a less expensive vehicle + mods, unless you're ready to spend more money than what the GT-R would have originally cost you.

Cost wise, after my TT install, I'll be getting there--but it's about the unique-factor. Sure, I'd like to beat a GT-R with a Z, but it's still a Z, and a GT-R is still a GT-R.

Nixlimited 10-22-2012 11:24 AM

They don't call it Godzilla for no reason...

TerribleONE 10-22-2012 04:05 PM

I think with a 500whp+ setup and a good driver you can get a GTR from a roll.. I should know personally pretty soon here :driving:

edub370 10-22-2012 04:15 PM

from a dig... well... just don't lol

2011 Nismo#91 10-22-2012 04:23 PM

:shakes head:

I feel is someone from a GTR forum saw this thread he'd feel like we feel when someone on a Honda civic forum posts about beating a 370z.

While you could do it, its a pointless discussion and price wise a TT z will run 20k (less if you consider your free time having no value). Which almost puts you in the price range of an out of warranty GTR which is what your Z will be if you TT it.

6MT 10-22-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vo370z (Post 1973897)
I don't know if this question has been asked before but how would a twin turbo 370z stand up against the GTR ?

not even close

Sales@AAMComp 10-22-2012 04:31 PM

stock GT-R's put out anywhere from 380-440whp depending on the year

their biggest advantage is the transmission, they shift ungodly fast. It doesn't take much to make a stock turbo GT-R in the 550-580whp range with just bolt ons and retune.. haha

show2nite 10-22-2012 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1974660)
I think with a 500whp+ setup and a good driver you can get a GTR from a roll.. I should know personally pretty soon here :driving:

And you are going to get whoop

NitrousZ34 10-22-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 1973917)
Depends, off the line you dont stand a chance since the GTR is AWD.

For arguments sake though
TT 370Z
HP: ~500 RWHP
Weight ~3500 lbs

GTR
HP: ~ 520-540 AWHP
Weight ~3800 lbs


So it would be close at a roll, but the GTR would get you on every shift.

But thats just the numbers.


Your numbers are slightly off. A 370z weighs roughly 3,232 pounds according to online sources. Even if they weigh in at 3300lbs thats still 200lbs lighter than 3500. The weight on the GTR is correct but how are you getting 520-540awhp if thats what they are crank? Also, there are two different GTR's as everyone knows. The older GTR's with 465hp wouldnt stand a chance against a 500rwhp 370z on a roll. Thats almost 100whp more and give or take 500lbs lighter. A newer GTR will be a much better race but i strongly believe that a TT 370z putting out 500rwhp + can take a stock GTR from a roll. Simple mods to a GTR will blow the Z out of the water though.

Call me crazy but i would still prefer a built/turbo 370z over a GTR any day. In my opinion i think its more of a driver's car. I honestly couldn't afford out of warrantly maintenance, and insurance for one either. Don't get me wrong, GTR's are amazing cars, but they just arn't for me.

Trips 10-22-2012 09:51 PM

Stock for Stock GTR hands down.

Mods for Mods and again GTR.

Lets keep it real, and folks need to STOP drinking the Koolaid

Mr&Mrs 10-22-2012 09:56 PM

This is very simple to figure out. Look at our FI cars time slip data base for 1/4 mile runs. Then look at stock GT-R's.

/Close thread

Rusty 10-22-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1975253)
Stock for Stock GTR hands down.

Mods for Mods and again GTR.

Lets keep it real, and folks need to STOP drinking the Koolaid

We can all dream. Can't we? :p

elperuano 10-22-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 1975288)
We can all dream. Can't we? :p

you can keep dreaming, from a dig with my stance set-up i got raped :(
but from a 40 roll i kept up even while spinning 3rd and breaking 4th.. I'm running almost -3 camber and 265 tires in the rear.. If i were to raise my car n get more positive camber n run a fatter tire I wouldve been ahead comfortably..
Granted mod for mod the GTR will win but if a stock gtr thinks hes gonna take me on a roll, i'd love to see his WTF face :eek: after... his face is what made it all worth it to me :driving:

Nissan370 10-22-2012 10:16 PM

I hate when people say just go buy that car
Then why even mod a car at all
Hell I would love to pull up to a zr1 with a 600rwhp z
And kill it but that does not mean I want to go buy a zr1

DEpointfive0 10-22-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloboi (Post 1974109)
If you want a GT-R, buy a GT-R. Don't expect to match GT-R performance by buying a less expensive vehicle + mods, unless you're ready to spend more money than what the GT-R would have originally cost you. Z, but it's still a Z, and a GT-R is still a GT-R.

:iagree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1974111)
They don't call it Godzilla for no reason...

:iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 1974722)
Their biggest advantage is the transmission, they shift ungodly fast. It doesn't take much to make a stock turbo GT-R in the 550-580whp range with just bolt ons and retune.. haha

:iagree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1975253)
Stock for Stock GTR hands down.

Mods for Mods and again GTR.

:iagree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 1975269)
This is very simple to figure out. Look at our FI cars time slip data base for 1/4 mile runs. Then look at stock GT-R's.

/Close thread

:iagree:


I think a fully modded Z could beat the gen 1 GTR if it's stock, but not the gen 2... Even if it's stock...
And the GTR has launch control as well as an automatic transmission for flawless and reproducible launches and start ups.

Fabio88 10-22-2012 10:22 PM

My 370z on a roll seems faster then my 2010 gtr that was when my 370z was close to 500 rwhp now I should be getting my Z back with more upgrade maybe hit over 600 rwhp.

The Gtr on the line is just way to quick great hookup.

Nissan370 10-23-2012 06:23 AM

rich bastard lol

Mr.Squeeze 10-23-2012 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 1973944)
Depends on the build really. From all of the videos ive en on youtube the TT kits seem to boost at like 5k rpms if you had a setup that could make bigger power earlier it would be better. You would need atleast 600+whp to take on a modded gtr though.

Can anyone confirm when our TT kits make full boost?


Does not take a TT 370z to hit full boost tell 5k most people have the stage 1 or stage 2 GT 28 turbos the spool by 3000-3500 rpm's . I have stage 3 GT3071 turbos and I hit full boost by 4500 rpms. I actually like that my turbos spool a bit slower than the smaller turbos helps with traction from a roll.

I have raced a full bolt on GTR from a roll of 60 mph and beat it by a car and a half on my 14 psi boost setting making 580whp. I then raced the same the same GTR from a 30 mph roll and lost because of slight wheel spin . Racing a GTR down low is just asking for it the transmission and awd is just two good .

Mr.Squeeze 10-23-2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1975322)
I hate when people say just go buy that car
Then why even mod a car at all
Hell I would love to pull up to a zr1 with a 600rwhp z
And kill it but that does not mean I want to go buy a zr1

I would love to run into a ZR1 and do this lol there so rare though.

MMC Racing 10-23-2012 07:30 AM

What I see is 370z's with big number and slow results and GT-R's running faster than their HP/weight would think possible. There is always some combination of bad driver on the GT-R or the 500HP 370z getting a roll race in its sweet spot, but those are the edge cases.

MyKindaGuise 10-23-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1975634)
Does not take a TT 370z to hit full boost tell 5k most people have the stage 1 or stage 2 GT 28 turbos the spool by 3000-3500 rpm's . I have stage 3 GT3071 turbos and I hit full boost by 4500 rpms. I actually like that my turbos spool a bit slower than the smaller turbos helps with traction from a roll.

I have raced a full bolt on GTR from a roll of 60 mph and beat it by a car and a half on my 14 psi boost setting making 580whp. I then raced the same the same GTR from a 30 mph roll and lost because of slight wheel spin . Racing a GTR down low is just asking for it the transmission and awd is just two good .

Well starting to spool and full boost are quite different..But thats why I asked for confirmation because most of the videos ive seen arent exactly clear. So are they spooling at 3k or full boost by 3k? Even so that is lower than what I thought I saw and quite releaving.

Motion Lab 10-23-2012 09:07 AM

GT-R are great. Love the car, the power, the potential, and its handling capabilities. However the TT 370z are still a lot of fun since you can get the *** end out on them easily with a moderate amount of power :P.

Thanks,
Alex Goodwin
AlexG@motionlabtuning.com

Nissan370 10-23-2012 10:04 AM

Mr squeeze you know you could make us very very happy with some video man lol I mean jezzz let us dream in 1080p

Nixlimited 10-23-2012 10:26 AM

I would buy a GTR if it came in stick, which means I will never be able to buy a GTR again. I know its a step back technologically and performance-wise, but I am not a professional race car driver and I like both feet and both hands working!

Mr.Squeeze 10-23-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1975920)
Mr squeeze you know you could make us very very happy with some video man lol I mean jezzz let us dream in 1080p


Well you know how this forum is with rules on street racing and posting videos of it. On the GTR forum its not like that at all I see all types of video other there . I do plan on getting a two go pro's to mount on the car to make some videos

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1975670)
What I see is 370z's with big number and slow results and GT-R's running faster than their HP/weight would think possible. There is always some combination of bad driver on the GT-R or the 500HP 370z getting a roll race in its sweet spot, but those are the edge cases.

The reason you see GTR's with good results with ho and weight is because the car is easy to drive .It's really hard to be a bad driver in a GTR the car is a computer on wheels auto/DCT paddle shifters , and launch control not hard at all to learn how to drive one of these cars . The GTR can do every thing for you how hard is it to flick your finger to paddle shift or to usr launch control from a dig .

A TT 370z has to be driven no launch control to help from a dig the VDC is a joke, even if you have a auto it cant compare to the DCT of the GTR . I have seen enough GTR's in action in the tri state area at the drag strip and on the street there beast . I do however like the challenge of taken down a few of em with my car, the big HP ones I can't even come close to

luigi90210 10-23-2012 11:40 AM

if your asking about a stock GTR
than the TT370z will smoke it, but if the GTR has a tune, than you will be seeing tail lights

kpjc4eva 10-23-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1976159)
if your asking about a stock GTR
than the TT370z will smoke it, but if the GTR has a tune, than you will be seeing tail lights

This is not true. I ran a stock gtr, i still got beat. Look up Mexican stand off g37 on YouTube.

G37sHKS 10-23-2012 01:02 PM

You can mess with GTR if they were stock.. I tried it and GTR owner was disappointed somehow :D.. however don't mess with bolts on GTR lol

luigi90210 10-23-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpjc4eva (Post 1976247)
This is not true. I ran a stock gtr, i still got beat. Look up Mexican stand off g37 on YouTube.

you're running a g37 against a gtr, the g37 weighs about the same as a gtr does stock the Z how ever is almost 400lbs lighter than the gtr, plus it all depends on your setup and how much boost you're running, if you're running 5psi than no you wont come close to a gtr but if you're running 9-13psi than you will be passing up the gtr

of course the gtr has to be stock(heck maybe even first gen as well)

kpjc4eva 10-23-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1976310)
you're running a g37 against a gtr, the g37 weighs about the same as a gtr does stock the Z how ever is almost 400lbs lighter than the gtr, plus it all depends on your setup and how much boost you're running, if you're running 5psi than no you wont come close to a gtr but if you're running 9-13psi than you will be passing up the gtr

of course the gtr has to be stock(heck maybe even first gen as well)

Noted. The key to victory is to turn up the boost. And i shall win.

SalA 10-23-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 1974722)
stock GT-R's put out anywhere from 380-440whp depending on the year

their biggest advantage is the transmission, they shift ungodly fast. It doesn't take much to make a stock turbo GT-R in the 550-580whp range with just bolt ons and retune.. haha

I Agree..That Dual Clutch Set Up in the GT-R is how the M5 and other premo units are built to get that performance. Unless you do the same with Z.. I would say Advantage GT-R.

Fabio88 10-23-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SalA (Post 1976327)
I Agree..That Dual Clutch Set Up in the GT-R is how the M5 and other premo units are built to get that performance. Unless you do the same with Z.. I would say Advantage GT-R.

I bought one of those clutches from OS and its over $2100 lol they are pricey.

Red__Zed 10-23-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1976462)
I bought one of those clutches from OS and its over $2100 lol they are pricey.

wat

Fabio88 10-23-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1976476)
wat

GTM Motorsports*::*CLUTCH - FLYWHEEL*::*OS Giken Twin Plate Clutch W/ Damper


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