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I know that why I put the "LOL" I actually was smiling when I read you post, :bowrofl: |
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by inferior parts you mean like intercooler and such or something more major? |
Really wouldnt say inferior, But maybe not the best choices, The heat exchanger is small, and some think the intake design on the Stillen kit is poor( MAF) location, I'm still up in the air on that one I will know more when I get my car back and retune it for my upgrades.
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I dont plan on making any more than advertised power tbh, 412whp is pretty fricken fast if you ask me |
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I don't have either one, but I read a lot about both of them. I honestly haven't heard too many good things about the Stillen SC. People have a lot of problems with them, the tune they give you is absolute crap, and they don't make much power. Stillen's product quality and customer service have started lacking severely for the 370Z, whereas GTM has done nothing but improve and continue to please people. If I were to consider a SC I would be looking at GTM before anything else. Just my :twocents:
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But like i said, after much extra $$ and headaches later, it is now working and producing advertised numbers. Do it all over again, for me, definitely would go different route. |
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Here's your dyno graph before the tune and here's your dyno graph after the tune and this is from your own posting: http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...65WHPGraph.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...raph412WHP.jpg Keep in mind that you are always on a load bearing dyno which can have too many variables and allows the operator to make the numbers higher or lower at a whim. You have lost your mind so much that you have stated that a Dynojet number is inflated numbers. Keep in mind that the Dynojet is the industry standard dyno since you can't mess with the numbers and the car will read the same Dynojet to Dynojet. They are 100% consistent every time. Quote:
The only failure I am aware of is the one in Saudi Arabia when it was 140 degree weather while he was racing an AMG C63 in the desert at over 180kph...before he had gone through the verification and data logging process or dyno testing to ensure the AFR was spot on. Besides, if you are planning on going 180kph in 50 degree celsius engine, a stock engine simply cannot take it. Furthermore, this guy is so dissatisfied with our kit that he is buying our GTM 4.2L Stroker Long Block, GTM Stage 4 Transmission, GTM Stage 3 Supercharger Upgrade, GTM Return Fuel System, and our GTM Direct Port Water/Methanol Injection system. In closing, I really don't enjoy doing this to you or anyone for that matter. You have called me for advice, I have tried to help you over the phone with some input even though you are not our customer. You just leave me with no choice. To the OP, I'm sorry to ruin your thread. There is some good information on here that will help you make a good decision. Here are some dyno graphs of both the Stillen Kit and our GTM Kit on the same car on the same dyno. What you will notice is that our kit is superior in all aspects straight out of the box. The dyno graphs below speak volumes. http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...20SC/DynoA.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...20SC/DynoB.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...20SC/DynoC.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...20SC/DynoD.jpg http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...20SC/DynoE.jpg Sam |
Thank you Sam!
I thought I was the only one getting annoyed. |
Get the GTM kit and be done with it I learned the hard way.
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I have had the both the stillen kit and the gtm kit
I had nothing but problems with the stillen kit and their support The gtm kit made awesome power right out of the box and Sam is awesome to work with Here is a blog post about my experience with both kits There is dynos for both kits on the same dyno in that blog and side by side comparisons of power Z-Car Blog Post Topic Determined to Boost: Tom’s 370z |
Well OP im in the same position your in. It would seem the GTM kit is better for performance no doubt. If you want performance Get GTM. Worst feeling in the world is spending X amount of money and you still cant beat a full bolt on (Mind you when i say fun bolt on im speaking of cams too) 5.0, SRT8, or SS. But if you don't care about power then don't worry about it.
Right now i like the Stillen kit because you can run LTH headers with the stillen kit like user Swiss370z, And Rcz34 did. People have lost power with the GTM kit when they run LTH. Going through the fast intentions LTH thread i found this statement... "I have never in my life ever, ever, ever, installed a supercharger on a car along with headers and lost power. The only way it is possible is if the supercharger kit is inefficient" That was a red flag for me... Im not going to remove the headers for a kit (money lost) But that's me. I like stillen as a company and the fact that they got their kit carb legal saids a lot. The sound of the stillen supercharger kit is louder! the GTM kit seems quiet. Both kits dont sound like what the 350z vortech kit was :( GTM is more in price. And i've watch a video on youtube of a Black girl bash GTM's customer service. She ordered a system and it took for ever for her to get. She recorded conversations when she called GTM and everything else. I saw that and was turned off from the company. Now that said im happy GTM supports our car and they know alot about the VQ motor. I hope GTM can become what AMS is to EVO. Really looking forward to the twin Charged System! But the GTM kit does not seem like its for me. but im trying to force myself to like the kit as i dont wanna be the idiot being beat by a full bolt on American muscle car lol. Im waiting on a kit ill really love, so op really do your home work because we are all different. I.E i like the flashy look of the Stillen kit but you dont example of something that doesn't work for you which GTM kit seems to be less maintenance and a clean look that you like. So its not about what everyone else likes its about what works for you, good luck |
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