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Boosted Performance 03-13-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2210677)
Why is there a need to bash a company that is trying something new and unique because you may lose a possible sale? I just don't get it. We all love these cars, that's why we are this forum. I'm looking at value and reliability of the kit. I'm not going to drop another 10k on a POS turbo kit...cough...cough...sts...cough.. Trust me when another company bashes a competitor that doesn't help swing me to their side for my next FI option.
Hell if I can drop 14k on a new engine and 9k(BP) on a 900+hp system that I can install on a weekend. Easy choice on that one.


It is sad, but this is how low some are willing to go to sell their product. All this started when I came on board with a legitimate turbo kit that had many advantages over the one (monopoly) turbo kit available on the market at that time.

It was clear that they were intimidated by essentially a one man show, which is again sad. How can a shop with a 26 year history and infinite wisdom be intimidated by some guy working out of an igloo in Canada? That just gives me confidence in my product, and the fact that it is able to compete with anything else on the market…and then some.

Now that F.I has come out with a great twin turbo kit with fantastic quality and proven components, some are really feeling the heat, to the point where they are re-engineering everything. Again, it shows that even they recognize the quality of product competition is putting out on the market.


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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 2210777)
I am glad Sasha stepped up a defended his product, as I know he does not like making those posts. I was kind of shocked to see those comments in another thread.

I just want to touch on "power under the curve" comment since its my car as a prototype. When I talked to the guys at specialty z, they advised me not to exceed 400 ft/lbs of torque. This keeps things safe and reliable. I am sure someone out there will push this kit :)

I should also meantion there was nothing done with the gain. To me 3600 rpm is perfect to help with traction problems, but I am sure someone could have the boost come on quicker if they wish.

Thanks for the support James, and yes it took a bit of time before I decided to "get in to it". I feel like my products and support speak for themselves.

elperuano 03-13-2013 09:31 AM

I love the simplicity of the kit. Overall it's great.
One thing I do wish is for these tuners to quit holding back these cars. 420 torque was the standard for the DE motors. These motors r stout and hold a lot better than DE. I'm at 50" torque and max torque doesn't kick in til 5k rpm. 8k miles and 12 lbs later the ride is running like a beast.
I certainly hope someone actually puts this turbo to good use. Longevity I understand but never know what might happen out on the road. I'd prefer to drive my FI car the way it was meant than to hold it back so much for a few more miles on it.

Boosted Performance 03-13-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2210844)
I love the simplicity of the kit. Overall it's great.
One thing I do wish is for these tuners to quit holding back these cars. 420 torque was the standard for the DE motors. These motors r stout and hold a lot better than DE. I'm at 50" torque and max torque doesn't kick in til 5k rpm. 8k miles and 12 lbs later the ride is running like a beast.
I certainly hope someone actually puts this turbo to good use. Longevity I understand but never know what might happen out on the road. I'd prefer to drive my FI car the way it was meant than to hold it back so much for a few more miles on it.

You have to look at it from a business/reputatino point of view. If a tuner has an engine pop on him on the dyno, or soon after the word will get around. As a result the business can fall off, because in this industry it only takes one bad tune. Reliability and longevity goes a long way.

Just the way it is.

Mitco39 03-13-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2210990)
You have to look at it from a business/reputatino point of view. If a tuner has an engine pop on him on the dyno, or soon after the word will get around. As a result the business can fall off, because in this industry it only takes one bad tune. Reliability and longevity goes a long way.

Just the way it is.

Yup, and it doesnt even have to be due to the tune. The blame will always fall back to the tuner, atleast initially. Even years down the road I have people call me up asking why their truck is acting funny, everyone immediately assumes its the tune. Im not sure if its just easiest to blame something that you do not fully understand or what, but it is indeed a tightrope walk.

elperuano 03-13-2013 11:17 AM

I'm glad I went to a great tuner :)
I'm all for safety n all but when DE motor is rated for 420 and these motors are stronger than DE and the tuner keeps it at 400 for "safety" that just doesn't seem right to me. A good tuner will give u the best of both worlds.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the kit Sasha, hope to see some around South Florida

ENT-Z 03-13-2013 06:25 PM

I think the quality of this kit stands on it's own fine up against anything out there. The real differentiator is the service both before and after the sale. I can't tell you how many times I emailed Sasha back and forth about unique aspects of my build that didn't even necessarily pertain directly to the turbo kit and he was always prompt and courteous. During my install there were two very minor issues with the parts and he actually compensated me for those small issues, reducing what I'm sure is already a fairly small profit margin. If you are one of the few folks with his kit on your car, you are a lucky man/woman.

ENT-Z 03-13-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2211030)
I'm glad I went to a great tuner :)
I'm all for safety n all but when DE motor is rated for 420 and these motors are stronger than DE and the tuner keeps it at 400 for "safety" that just doesn't seem right to me. A good tuner will give u the best of both worlds.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the kit Sasha, hope to see some around South Florida

I'm tuned at 431 torque right now. I've only been driving it for a week but it hasn't blown up yet...lol!!

elperuano 03-13-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2211988)
I'm tuned at 431 torque right now. I've only been driving it for a week but it hasn't blown up yet...lol!!

Lol, if ur confident in ur tuner and he's a good tuner for the VQ motors that will hold for a very veerrryyy long time!:driving:

tower74 03-13-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 2211988)
I'm tuned at 431 torque right now. I've only been driving it for a week but it hasn't blown up yet...lol!!

I can't wait to see this beast on the 30th!!! Ugh choices choices

tower74 03-13-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2212001)
Lol, if ur confident in ur tuner and he's a good tuner for the VQ motors that will hold for a very veerrryyy long time!:driving:

Mine held with over 400tq for at least 12k miles and it was an AT7. It's all about how much you abuse it.

elperuano 03-13-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2212218)
Mine held with over 400tq for at least 12k miles and it was an AT7. It's all about how much you abuse it.

How u treat the car also plays a role in it. That being said I beat on my car a lot actually. More before when it was brand new and the power made my adrenaline pump. Now I still beat on it and go to certain street hang outs for street racing but not as often as before. My motor has held up strong so far and I have absolute peace of mind when I turn my car on. Sees full boost everytime.

With a good install, tune, and a responsible right foot this car will go a long way. Now if ur bumpin off the rev limiter and hittin full boost from one red light to the next, nothing will last you.

tower74 03-13-2013 10:22 PM

My point exactly. It shows more class to congratulate someone on their success and design than to bash what they have put their heart soul into. They way you and Tony complement each other on your kits, show true class. Everyone will choice what they fell is best for them and their needs in the long run. In the words of the great Ron Burgundy..." You stay classy..":tup:

tower74 03-13-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2212250)
How u treat the car also plays a role in it. That being said I beat on my car a lot actually. More before when it was brand new and the power made my adrenaline pump. Now I still beat on it and go to certain street hang outs for street racing but not as often as before. My motor has held up strong so far and I have absolute peace of mind when I turn my car on. Sees full boost everytime.

With a good install, tune, and a responsible right foot this car will go a long way. Now if ur bumpin off the rev limiter and hittin full boost from one red light to the next, nothing will last you.

Of course. Hell my tires didn't stop spinning even when the car was turn off when I first when FI. As time went on and buying tires made me realize I needed to chill out. Plus after awhile, the thrill wears off.....a little not much but just a little.

Boosted Performance 03-13-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2212280)
My point exactly. It shows more class to congratulate someone on their success and design than to bash what they have put their heart soul into. They way you and Tony complement each other on your kits, show true class. Everyone will choice what they fell is best for them and their needs in the long run. In the words of the great Ron Burgundy..." You stay classy..":tup:

Thank you...I have spoken with Tony a few times now, and have nothing but good things to say about him, and the way he is going about things. Like me, he knows the importance of having a quality product on the market, and perhaps even more impotantly great customer service.

I can tell you from the feedback from my customers, support is #1. This is something I take pride in...:

Just some of the feedback my customers have left me on the other forum, where I have sold over 50 turbo systems in the last 4 years.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pseda8cf11.jpg

Boosted Performance 03-14-2013 04:15 PM

I should also mention that the F.I exhausts are available to purchase with the next batch of kits...for those that do not have one yet :).


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