Considering TT or SC...is it worth it?
 

Is it worth it to void my 100k B2B warranty, just to achieve more horsepower? Is there anyway to get covered with this kind of upgrade?

I would say YES. Mines about to go out the window

Even if my cars not paid off? What were you considering tt or sc?

Mine isn't either.. I am going to go TT

Or just do bolt-ons and get some N2O and save your money :)





DAN

I would love to some NOS. Only if makes me feel like they do in FAST N FURIOUS. lol I should probably be responsible and pay my car off 1st... **** i hate being mature!!!

:koolaidwall: OH YEAHHHHHH

TT seems more my style also, but im in a 7AT. Wonder how that would factor, i just want to be able to hear my **** go **PSSHSHSHSFFTTTTTT* when i shift, and to shut my buddy up about his shelby.....MOFO rubs his 550HP in my face all the time.

I twin turbo'd mine well still having a car payment and still being under warranty. It's all about what you want and how bad you want it.

Any product installed by a dealership will not void ur warranty just some info. Be careful with that 7at transmission can't holdas much power as the 6mt

Thanks for the heads up, yeah my local one Deland Nissan, has a great installer that i spoke with a Z meet. I should call him and discuss some options.

I see you got a GTR now lol :yum:

Just remind him he drives a ford... I see more mustangs than mini vans on the street

That's not true, I can promise you if you have a nissan dealership install a GTM kit on your car your warranty will be voided. Certain dealerships have certain deals worked out with company's like stillen but they are few and far.

Yeah, I wanted the power and a warranty lol!

If you feel there is no "better" car out there you would like to own in the near future, then go for it! I've had mine since Sept. and love every moment of it. Most of the time it's not even in boost, but you'll feel it once you give it half throttle and rev past 2.5k RPM.

It also sounds SICK!

Our dealership, Deland Nissan, does stillen S/C installs that won't void your warrantee as long as you go to Deland, no promises if you go to another dealership

Yeah, Osiris on here got his car and the Stillen kit installed at Deland. Derek, their GTR tech did the install, top notch work, he's super good at what he does, only guy we let maintain our cars. The only hiccup, is taht the out of the box tune from Stillen was sh!t and he had to go get it protuned at a performance shop down south to get it running right. Since it was custom tuned, i am not sure if the warrantee for the car/super charger kit is still intact, you'd have to ask Osiris about that.

The drivability after adding the TT kit was one of my favorite parts about the car. If I was driving normal, the car drove like stock, but when I opened it up it was a monster! It was like a sleeping giant lol. Being all stock on the exterior mine was kind of a sleeper haha.

Oh yeah! That is what I am hoping for as well.

OP:

If you are worried about warranty claims, you should just wait until you have 36k on the clock. Then you can mod away and not be worried anymore. I just said bump it and started the process. I am coming up on 3yrs and the milage, so it doesn't really matter anymore for me. Greddy TT for the win!

I'd say leave it alone. If you want more power, buy a GT-R, Viper, Z06, GT500, etc. etc. etc.

Any time you add significantly more power than the car came with from the factory, you can double that cost to balance it, easily. New suspension, brakes, driveline bits, or replacements when they go, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Buying the car you want is easier/cheaper in the long run than building the one you want from an existing car that wasn't designed to be what you want in the first place.

^^^^^ but a bought car is not near as bad *** as a built car

Doesn't matter what you want and buy, there's always available farkles that need to be added.

The longer I own my Z the more I am appreciating the stock power. So my plan is to take the advice of a lot of the members here and invest in a helmet, oil cooler and a bunch of HPDE sessions until I know how to push the Z to the limit (on the track) and be confident that I am not the bottleneck in the maximum performance equation.

You may already be at that place, so disregard if that is the case.

All these reasons are exactly why I parted mine out and bought a GT-R lol.

/\ I think the OP has a 100K warrantee, that's a really long time to wait. :icon17:

/\ 100% true and great advice, bolt ons and n/a mods are one thing, doubling whp with FI is a whole other ball of wax.

Plus 1000 for what he is saying , I'm having a stillen SC put on my 2011 G37 with only 9k on the car, I bought the kit from the dealer and am having them install it and they are not voiding any part of my warrenty. :tup:

100% of your warranty is not thrown out the window when you add a SC or TT.
I would consult with your dealership you plan to use for warranty repairs and maintenance and see what they will say. I threw on a SC at 19k miles and still have had warranty work done.

That is definitely good stuff if you can pull it off. The G guys are getting all the goodies............

I really appreciate the advice on here, and not getting bashed for questions, Yeah Derek was the one i spoke too. I love deland nissan, and the Z meet i believe his name was mike or something, had a black Z with a supercharger with black volk TE-37s, looked sick!!!! He said he alot of problems with the tune, took him a few months to get it right from stillen.


And i agree with the comment above about costing as much to balance that power, that makes alot of sense. Hm...decisions decisions.

What a great idea, i might look into a bit more and speak with my dealership, thanks alot!

If you plan on keeping the car for at least 4 more years then I was say do it.. If not then you are throwing money down the drain cause not only can't you get your money back for modds you end up selling for less then a stock car.
If you go FI I would go with the S/C just because it would still be possible to part it out and recoupe some of your money, as with a TT kit paying someone to un-install it would be pointless.
Save up and get a GT-R in a few years is what I wish I would have done.

guys i have modded a few cars over the years including a 350z with a turbo and i disagree with you guys about the car and necessary supporting balance mods. A Z with a sport package is enough of a platform for a 380-420whp basic kit. There are plenty of cars out there with that amount of power that can stop or turn like a z. Its not enough power to blow up a rear on street tires and its well within the safety zone with a good tune. A basic setup with maybe some sway bars, clutch and fly wheel, and an oil cooler will be plenty of car and done right should be reliable. Now if your one of the cowboys that wanna go north of 500whp you have to be prepared for more

i dont get all the gtr comments, you can do a tt kit installed with everything i mentioned for 11-15k and a sc for 8-11, a gtr list for 92000 now so how is that on the same planet?!?!? unless your talking used and even still you are over 60k for a good low milage 09 or 10.

I haven't found one for under 60k that I would feel good purchasing. I have been in the market for one so that I can get the misses off my back about having a car that I can cart the kids around in AND is an automatic, so that she can drive it when her Tahoe goes in for "refreshing"...........

As far as cost, I went Greddy and spend "enough". So think a 34k NISMO + 20k (comparable GTM kits can be purchased and installed for a little less) comes out to 54k and that gets you a thrashed/abused GT-R. My NISMO had 6 miles on it when I got it............

because TT 370z (usual setting) will still be slower than a stock GTR.
even if Z goes faster than GTR on the straight line, what about other factors such as handling/tracking? reliability? and resale price?
If you account all those numerous factors, GTR may be a better buy, but not always true.
It's all about personal preference.

Hey no problem , I would talk to them, If they are like cool like my dealer the them you should be good to go.

An about the Stillen can tune issues I have a Z near me also that had issues. But MAN I hope they fixed their issues cause I have to run their tune for 2 weeks as my tuner leaves for Japan on Tuesday for 2 weeks :/

Stillen SC installed was $9200 at the Infiniti dealer. Retune will cost me $500.
So jusy shy off 10k for everything:tiphat:

It's not so much the price were talking about here, it's the warranty and reliability. From experience though, between buying the car, turbo kit, supporting mods, and labor I was up to $63,000 and that was with everything else stock other then the performance mods. Even if you have the sports package, tires and brakes should still be upgraded. I was making 450hp and traction was rough in first and second gear. Twice my rear brakes locked up slowing down from high speed. I blew out the bushings in my rear differential and my front suspension couldn't handle the power that well either. I went through a stage of misfires and check engine lights as well. My car eaisly needed another $10,000 to be reliable and efficient at that power level. After adding all that to the car maintenance cost are just shy of what they are on a GT-R other then the transmission service.

I bought my GT-R used for $65,000 with 10,000 miles on it and I'm so happy I did. I certainly lost money parting out my car and selling it stock but in the long run it works out so much better. The car drives absoloutely flawless and I get 24mpg on the highway as opposed to 16mpg with the Z. Having a warranty on the big items such as engine and drivetrain is nice too. Granted, my clutch master cylinder went bad during one of the intial test drives and we brought my car to Nissan with the turbo kit fully installed and no front bumper installed and got it replaced under warranty. Despite the issues I had, the Z was an absolute beast and I had a blast with it well it was good.

That is my experience with it and I'm not saying everyone's will be the same, but it is something that should be heavily considered.

Billy, you went whole-hog yet the guy right above you spent only $9200.

Personally, I would be going Stage 1, there is no need for me to be the fastest vehicle in my town.

Right, I was just sharing my experience. Everyone is different in what they want. I started off with a fully loaded Z which is unnecessary for the build but what I wanted. He also went with a supercharger which is cheaper in parts and labor. I was by no means trying to be the fastest car in town, rather have a car I truly enjoy. Even with the GT-R, I am by no means the fastest car in town. I bet 90% of the people who do a conservative setup of 400hp get bored and crank up the power eventually anyways.

Billy:

Great post(s). Thank you for sharing that with us. We did need a fresh perspective on things so that the OP would get experiences from different angles. The Stillen build should work out well, but will more than likely need a custom tune. Even when I put a PowerFC in my CA18DET S13 hatch, I had to specifically tune it to dial in a good tune. The learning feature is good, but needed to be taylored to my specific setup. That was true even with entering all of the values that correspond to installed comoponents. Just food for though.........

I am still going thru with my Greddy build, but at the same time, I am looking for a GT-R for "family purposes". That way my girl can get off my back about having driving a stick and putting a car seat in the back seat. A GT-R will fill that void, but I am not letting go of my Z.