Originally Posted by ZSIZZLE (Post 1439377)

i dont understand why there is such little date on these tt builds other that dyno numbers, it seems like there are only 3 or 4 guys who take them to the track, there is no reason why these cars arent in the 10's yet and there is no reason why nobody has done 60-130 numbers either. Expecially these shops why wouldnt they advertise and show what these cars can do other than dyno??

Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1439609)

That's what I like. Passion in conversations. :D

Little can I add to this conversation other than these observatioins:

Most really fast and consistent drag cars run autos. I watched a sling of RWD street Corvettes, 5.0's, and a 2010 Camaro ALL run in the low eleven and high ten area most with autos this past weekend. All but one ran an auto.

The built auto spreads out the power spike so it doesn't break axles as much, and it doesn't lose traction as readily. Plus they are easier to drive.

(This was the motivating factor in my decision to get away from my 10 second STI (street tires/AWD but with stronger axles). I sucked. 50% of my runs had some shifting or traction malady. No, make that 75%. :mad: )

I'm not convinced you NEED axles to get into the tens, but it's good insurance. At present I'm simply trying to get into the mid elevens, and with 1.8 60" times, I am hardly at the breaking point of the driveline.

That traction control and it's suitability on the drag strip is all conjecture until someone actually posts a time card. To that end, If it DID work up to it's claim, it would maximize the available traction, but having slicks (even DR slicks like I have) would up that threshold.

Now that GTM is making a kit for the G37x, well then: Imagine a G37x Coupe with 18" DR's all around on AWD and a semi-built auto. That's the 10-sec chassis combo for this engine.

Ooopps, I'm in the 370Z forum. Sorry. :tiphat:

I grew up ONLY of drag racing, so I love this topic.

(To those who love that loud GTM vid of the sweeet 370z. That is exactly why I plumbed all my returns to recirculate. It's loud.)

Coop

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1439329)

whether or not the Z is a drag car is irrelevant. High HP claims should always be backed up by 1/4 mile times. The road course is NOT the place to be showing off tons of horsepower, and thats where you can actually get away with having a less powerful car. For example, Mike (the powdercoated) runs around much more powerful, more expensive cars with his FBO 370z with a real road course setup.... and guess what i bet he'd lap any TT 370z with their street setups. 310whp and weight reduction with a proper track setup is better around a road course than 600whp on street tires and 20 wheels with stretched tires.... but thats besides the point... the overall impression i get from tt370z owners are that they are basically undriveable when you put your foot down... wheres the fun in that?

I could care less about how much hp you have if you can't put it down and you'd lose to a FWD turbo CRX with slicks on the front... because thats where the TT 370z's still are. honestly with how much the TT 370z's actually cost to build... whats set of axles cost on the scheme of things? if your car has 600whp, it should be running a good time and no one wants to hear that you are too scare to break it. If you are going to run around like your car is hot **** then prove it. no one cares how much horsepower you have to spin your tires.

I know GTM put a lot of R&D into bullits car... but with all the money that was spent on that car... why not actually spend some driving it and proving what it can do. i think a lot more people would be impressed by your car running a 9 or 10 1/4 mile than if you had 1500 hp. i doubt a set of axles or whatever could concievably break if you through some slicks on and tried to run a good time would even cost much in comparison to what the overall build cost.

it'd be cool to see some TT 370z's that weren't just dyno queens. that being said i wouldn't want to be the one who had to put my car on the line :p

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1439056)

Open dumps :stirthepot:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1439773)

I agree with some of your post but not all.

A TT 370z is not undriveable at all. Any amount of power the stock engine can handle is perfectly containable in terms of laying it to the pavement without a drag slick. Like I keep saying, its the same as any other car... you require a proper tire and alignment setup, but 550rwhp is just not an ungodly amount of power, its pretty low in the grand scheme of things and good tires and setup will easily hold it down.

The problem is the owners/drivers of Zs... not the car.

My 370z isnt even setup yet, it just isnt setup retarded either. The traction was good enough this year to hang with or beat any other car in the same power range, especially once rolling... because most other cars with this type of power arent setup any better.

Builds like bullets car will never see the drag strip, because it doesnt make sense. Cars like that are money pits with far too much invested to risk taking to the drag strip. If GTM or anybody else wants to prove how quick they can move a 370z down the drag strip they will put a built engine in an otherwise plain 370z that is completely replaceable if it ends up in the wall. Its just not worth taking a 100 grand 370z down the 1/4 when someone can make the same power with a $15 (20-25 retail i suppose) grand build and run it in a plain car with slicks or DRs and probably get better times.

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1439884)

i dont blame you.

You should investigate running your car at standing mile competitions... thats the choice of a lot of guys with high power street cars who do not want to configure the car for an all out launch off the line, and dont want to worry about hitting a wall, but still want to compete with their car.

its actually a really great venue for street cars, because there isnt a lot of difference in how you would setup the car for standing mile versus street driving and highway racing.

A couple guys have managed to go off the runaway and flip the car... but its not common.

Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1439979)

Yea man Thats what i want to do. Theres just no where to do it around here in louisiana. Really and truly in my opinion the faster car is the one who wins in a long run because it is truly faster. I run down my dads lingenfelter supercharged c6 z06 so I know the z would be a good contender in a standing mile in its class. As for the drag strip itll run 10s. Itll take more people in the drivers seat. The 370 is farelly new and the turbo kit is very new so itll happen in time.

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1439863)

Running a $100K+ car down the strip just isnt feasible for me. I dont mind running a Vbox down a runway or closed course.

Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1440014)

They got some haters on here for sure. I dont get why some people get on a z site and completely talk down about the z and how every other car is so much better in every aspect but they still pay money to drive one. Go buy a subaru or a civic or a garbage *** mustang and be like everyone else. Or buy a z and like it for what it is and stop hating so badly on it. The z will do 10s fellas its coming.

Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1440014)

The z will do 10s fellas its coming.