I'm just saying if I had to do it all over again I would have just for my gtr in the first place. I love my z but damn when is enOugh

"i could have got gtr over 370z if it was offered in manual" is the silliest excuse i ever heard in my entire life :shakes head:

I never knew that gtr cost same as 370z :shakes head:

i never knew that gtr brake service cost same as 370z :shakes head:

i never knew 370z MT is better than gtr AT :shakes head:

what a lame excuse... GTR is a GTR you didnt buy it not because its "AT" but because it cant be afforded and even though you can, gtr service cost arm and leg..

im not saying that i can afford it, i cant even afford their brakes but i just hate when ppl come up with lame excuses

Me too, in a heartbeat. It kills me that the GTR doesn't come in stick. That leaves only a 911 Turbo in that performance range, but it's too expensive new.

I'm a purist need the MT, besides while I can't say I have extensive time behind the wheel of a GTR I have to go with an overused phrase, the car is very fast but has no soul.

uhhh...."GTM performance engineering stage 2 600hp supercharger kits line-up press release" :stirthepot: just sayin

thats all going to change when are sports car stop using a manual transmission. The transformation is slowly taking over.

So thats why you drive an automatic now huh.:driving:

nope 6 speed...

Huh uh. :ugh2:

less headaches with manual and prefer to be drive not be driven.

There will always be sports cars for us purists. Sure the Europeans might stop and the exotics might go for paddles in the chase of efficiency but the domestic market will always be there and Aston Martin continues to hold down the manual market for high end cars.

The guy in the paddles may be faster but the guy driving the stick shift will always having a more enjoyable driving experience and will be wearing a bigger smile.

That's what I am saying. Until I am paid to drive a car, I don't care about shifting .05 seconds faster. I care about the fun I am having driving. I like rowing my own gearbox.

/\ spoken like someone who's never owned a GTR.

[QUOTE=NYBladeZ;1409219]There will always be sports cars for us purists. Sure the Europeans might stop and the exotics might go for paddles in the chase of efficiency but the domestic market will always be there and Aston Martin continues to hold down the manual market for high end cars.

The guy in the paddles may be faster but the guy driving the stick shift will always having a more enjoyable driving experience and will be wearing a bigger smile.[/QUOTE]

/\ that's a very generalized statement, not saying that's not going to be true for some, maybe even the majority, but not all.

The guy in the paddles may be faster but the guy driving the stick shift will always having a more enjoyable driving experience and will be wearing a bigger smile

drives whatever makes you happy regardless of manual or auto

How the heck did this turn into a mt vs at thread?

Thats why I said what I did:

it all stemmed from someone mentioning 7AT then to the GTR and now back to the transmission :shakes head: quit feeding these off topic discussions, start another thread or pm each other. This thread is for one thing....talk about the topic and quit flooding threads in this forum and feeding off topic discussions.

Yeah, stage two superchargers rock! :tup:

Yes they do

Stg 2 + bigger injectors + bigger fuel pump + e85 = My fantasy

Stg 2 + 4.5L Stroker = Mine

stage 2 gtm 4.5 = must win lotery

One can hope. lol

not to crazy about the 4.5l upgrade yet, I think the 3.7l is good for 650+ whp with the right set of pistons and rods. However, I'm sure time will tell and Bullit's results when published will answer a lot of questions.

I wouldn't be using it for all out power like Bullit is with White Dragon. I'm interested in it for the boost in torque it could provide.

Even with a twin turbo set-up I wouldn't throw a stage 6 kit on it. I'd use smaller turbos for quicker spool and more low end.

Any updates sam?

How's the 4.2L G37 coming? It'll be interesting to see the comparison between that and the other G37 you guys already did.

Been a long time since we got an update. Any news on the 7at upgrades????

Not going to be cheap. Upper 4k range

For the 7AT upgrade?

It has been a minute since the last update on thing but maybe after the holidays, updates will start being posted. holidays are hectic for everyone, we all know this.

I know just wish there was pricing on clutch packs only pricing I know is a rough estimate and that's for a tranny rebuild.

For 7AT build?.. if so then i hope for cheaper because this "upper 4k" is for GTR not for 370z

Per GTM website, the 7AT stage 4 is like $6700. This is the most expensive of the different options that they offer though.

Correct me if I'm wrong though!

your right on the cost.
My 7 AT is being built there now

For 500whp I was quoted 9k with my 7At core. Thats was 3 months ago though maybe the price has come down a bit. It did how ever stop my F.I plans. I spent all my money on a new zx10r for my need for speed.

I think the price was increased after this thread

is there any problem using 98 octane fuel with this supecharger? would i just have to get a custom tune to accomidate for it?

Higher octane (as long as unleaded) will never negatively impact your car. You may pick up some slight increases from the computer advancing timing based on lack of knock detection, but to fully take advantage of high octane you need to tune for it.

wished we had 98..

Not so fast.


The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel in a test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing the results with those for mixtures of iso-octane and n-heptane.

There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), or the aviation lean octane rating, which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load, as it is determined at 900 rpm engine speed, instead of the 600 rpm for RON. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON, however there is no direct link between RON and MON. Normally, fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON

In most countries, including Australia and all of those in Europe, the "headline" octane rating shown on the pump is the RON, but in Canada, the United States and some other countries, like Brazil, the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI, and often written on pumps as (R+M)/2). It may also sometimes be called the Pump Octane Number (PON).


Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, the octane rating shown in the United States is 4 to 5 points lower than the rating shown elsewhere in the world for the same fuel.

I have 93 octane here in Missouri based on the (R+M)/2. This would likely be the equivalent to the 98 octane in Australia based on the RON rating.

I thought they used the same rating. That is an awesome first post! Thanks Turbobob. +1