That wasn't what I was getting at. There are other types of cars in the class of the Z that have aftermarket parts that cost half or less for the same quality.

We are paying aftermarket BMW parts prices for a damn Nissan, and its ignorant as hell. I can't believe this community is gullible enough to pay 1500$ for some bent steel or 500$ for a slightly curved 2 foot section of steel, etc. We are being robbed blind, and the worst part is that all of you are ok with it.

I think it boils down to aftermarket support, which this platform is lacking. There is not 100 companies to compete with to drive costs down.

This is not a Mustang, there are not 10k sold every month.
Supply & demand, there is not much aftermarket demand for the Z so companies must increase prices for them to get a return on investment.

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Damn back to drawing board

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There are as many fI kit makers as there are for the mustangs, there are as many or more exhaust makers, as many or more suspension makers, as many or more wheel makers.....see the trend?

Prices are set by what the market bares, which means whatever we, the customer, are willing to pay....and obviously we are willing to pay extortion and these companies know that.

Just because we have the same amount of companies making products does not mean they are selling the same volume as other cars.
Remember, only a small percent of owners will mod a car so when less cars are so a smaller aftermarket is created.

You should trade in your Z for that 03/04 cobra you were talking about...problem solved.

You should quit paying exhorbant prices for parts, therefore they come down.

Problem solved.

You have no idea what I paid, for anything I own. So don't make assumptions, it makes you look like an idiot. What also adds to that impression are the rest of your posts. So stop.

To suggest that it's my fault that prices are where they are is just ignorant as hell. The fact that this is a nitch market with very slim volume has 1000x more to do with it then me willing to pay whatever price I paid for what I have. Spend a little less time whining and go figure out all the companies that have gone out of business or bankrupt in the past 12 months (I can think of 4 known brands just off the top of my head) and a reasonably intelligent person can figure out it's the economy and the market that has caused these businesses to go down. A company isn't going to have a very profitable business opening it's doors in this economy, making parts for our cars, selling them for $50 over their costs. And if you think it's possible, I encourage you to be more productive with your time and open that business. Good luck making any sort of profit in your first 2-5 years on that one too btw.

The other point I'll make is...I buy what I want because I can afford it just like everyone else in this world. Not a single person here buys or doesn't buy something wondering if it's going to affect some other guy's wallet.

Its alot of money, and when I can save that amount GTM will be getting it.

This is posted in the GTM press release. My case and point about your posts. You and others need to realize the forums aren't just a place for you to run your mouth and have a little courtesy for the OP and those that are trying to read the thread for what it's intent was.

Actually a forum is just that, a place for discussion and opinions to be thrown back and forth. I've met a lot of people that can't handle anyones opinion but theyre own and you seem to be another example of that. Guess what? That's life.

I can handle your opinion...but like most people reading me typing this garbage to you...I'd rather not read it in a thread that it has nothing to do about.

Make a thread called I think Ford Cobra is better than a Z and then your opinion actually has a reason to be there...well other than what you find as an appropriate reason...being just because you have one.

Good news my stage 2 is in the country and is clearing customs this week.

Z

Back On Topic! AND :excited: :tiphat: :tup: :tiphat: :excited:

Whats the maximum hp to the rear wheels this could make?

:tup: im glad to be reading this.. hopefully just once though:tup:

It arrived this afternoon. As soon as i finish the ontario Z drag day with my N/A set up the install will start.
Z

Sweet! It will be great to see lots of track times and data, good luck with the install. :tup:

I expect to see a lot of numbers from Z eliminator and Travis as they track a lot. Keep us updated guys :happydance:

Just saw the full upgrade price from stage 1 -> 2, $5565 = ouch!