Supercharger/Turbo kit...?
 

Hi!

I´m thinking of Supercharger or Turbokit for my 370Z..

What do you people rekomend? brand? other ideas?

My car is 370z 2010 Automatic

Best R
Patrik

Use the search key up top my dude.

GTM or Stillen for supercharger
GTM twin turbo

SuperCharge: GTM or Stillen
Twin Turbo: GTM or Greddy

single turbo rear mount sts

also does AAM still make thier kit?

:icon18::iagree:

if you count up the dudes on this site this is how it breaks down.

35% go supercharger vs turbo 65%
of superchargers 40% go stillen vs 60% GTM
of turbo kits 95% go GTM 4% go greddy and 1% go STS or custom

I can see that the search function should be highlighted in neon red with 30 point font at the top of every page on the forum in order to reduce the clutter of threads started lately.

are these figure factual or just how you feel?? :bowrofl:

I know what you mean, no disrespect OP. These kind of threads are always around but gets worse the longer a car has been out in production. Forum guys that have been around for a while and know whats going on in a certain community get a little annoyed after the same questions keep getting asked.

@ OP: search my friend, you will learn a lot more then if we just sit here and give you our opinions but are more then willing to point you in the correct direction.

He is probably about right :p GTM TT kits are dominating the F.I. scene for the 370. Now Sam and GTM have come out with a stage 2 SC that is putting out some great numbers....

Here you go OP look into the following threads:

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...g-results.html

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...shop-ct-5.html

GTM website:

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/images/...55_Dyno100.JPG

People with the stillen SC are making a less power then the GTM stage 1 SC and you will have to get a custom dyno tune, there have been issues with stillens tune.

Research=best friend if wanting solid information.

haha ya just a feeling.. I think once the people waiting for the GTM stage 2 to be complete, the figures might jump to 60%/40% in favor of the supercharger vs turbo. That is of course if everyone saying there going to buy one do.

turbo....no question about it.

:iagree::tup:

Honestly everyone that says this either has a ton of spare time to scroll through the crap that the search function returns or they are too lazy themselves to provide advice.

If you don't want to provide anything constructive, don't respond to a thread. All I'm saying. :)

As for me, I'm still figuring out how much I want to invest in power in this car versus dealing with less lag issues and more power in a GT-R.

Kusosama, do what you are going to do.....but....there are no lag issues with my GTM twin turbo kit....or anyone elses that has been properly tuned. They are GT28RS sized turbo's......no reall spool up time involved.

I was speaking specifically to the throttle response issues of the 370z not any specific turbo kits turbo lag. :)

I've had an EVO X MR so I know what turbo lag feels like and this feels like the car is ignoring driver input. Literally like a mule saying that it won't go further. LOL!

As far as a turbo kit I'd recommend and have heard recommended, that'd be go with the Greddy. Reliable parts and reliable parts delivery.

No noticeable lag is exactly what the doctor ordered........

Thanks you all :)

Best R
Patrik

Question....if this is what you recommend....then why is it that 90% of the TT'd 370's on this forum are on GTM kits? In fact nearly all the TT'd 370's I have ever seen are GTM. Also, the GTM TT kit seems to put down the best numbers.

Which supercar would you recommend.....since you dont own one of those either????

So, what's your opinion on JB turbos vs BB turbos young Jedi? :stirthepot:

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

JB turbos can be repaired and BB turbos have to have the center section replaced.

^^^ I wanna see what KusoSama comes up with... ;)

as for the slow response in the 370z. I put a lightwheight clutch and flywheel and that made a huge difference in the throttle response area. Most people are going gtm because its about 2 to 3 grand cheaper yet still a very good kit. Greddy has only one stage which means the huge turbos will spool much slower and if your not building your motor for big power then youve just installed a laggy a$$ setup for nothing. Smaller turbos less lag. They say greddys fitment to the z is much better but its not worth me paying 8500 for a greddy tuner kit or 8000 for gtm ready to go kit. All in all Supercharger or turbo youll be happy with either man. Iv had both and I smiled everytime I got in them.

Price isn't 8500. And were did you hear this nonsense ?

which part?

is the turbos on the greddy not larger than lets say a stage one gtm?

20Gs were large for say a VG30, but not so much for a VQ35/37

Are you seriously trying to be offensive here? :) I'm confused as to why you decided to go the childish route on this... My comment back was me stating an opinion I have, the purpose of the thread I believe, and then followed up with a correction to a comment you made about assuming what throttle lag I was speaking to. You apparently misunderstood what I was stating and decided to take offense.

As for your comment about 90% of the TT'd 370s you've seen being GTM...

• Have you seen most of these in person?
• Did a high % of the people you saw with these kits frequent this forum or request advice from you?

That may explain why you see such a high percentage of GTM kits... GTM is a Sponsored Merchant on this forum and as such will have considerably better marketing visibility through this medium than say in a magazine. I've NEVER seen a MEMORABLE magazine ad campaign for GTM in say DSPORT magazine... Because of this lack of marketing I provide an alternative due to the marketing medium I've been influenced by most and have stated my opinion as to why I think Greddy would be a good kit.

Just because my current car isn't boosted doesn't warrant my opinion to be attacked in such a childish way.

As far as...
Why are you asking me if I prefer journal or ball bearing turbos? Is this your way of testing my knowledge? It's all based on preferences and risk management just like any choice in a project.

I never proclaimed I was a mechanic or a high end tuner in any of my posts. I simply have stated my opinion on the subject and how I feel I'm gonna go if I stick with this 370z.

That yea I know but the turbos on the greddy are larger than the stage one gtm? If they arent I stand corrected. I know that a smaller turbo will spool faster. Im just saying most people prefer the gtm just on price alone. greddy kits are expensive next to gtm.

I know alot of people are complaining about the throttle response issue on the new platform. I know I complained but I put a light clutch and flywheel and that made that much better.

20Gs are slightly larger than the GT28RS. I would say 18Gs are closer to GT28RS though. One of my neighbors from years ago used 18Gs on his Z32 and that thing was a monster for the time. He let people look under the hood, but you really couldn't see much. Plus, he was pretty tight lipped on what all he did or had done to the car.

Ok....a few things.......#1 I had one of the first TT GTM installs in the USA and it was done WAY BEFORE I joined this forum,,,,,so any sponsorship issues IN THIS FORUM were not a factor in my decision. #2. A prominent shop on this forums employees TOLD ME that Greddy was lower quality AND DID NOT FIT as well as GTM. #3. Having an EVO and trying any type of part comparison is ridiculous and has no bearing here. #4. I used Greddy on my 350z before and am familiar with them. #5. Have I seen many GTM TTs in person......YES!. #6. Did a high % of the people you saw with these kits frequent this forum or request advice from you........NO! I dont know anyone on this forum "personally" that has a TT. I have been asked many questions by NON FI Z owners about my install.......not sure how many went TT after.

In my opinion....most performance minded people seek out "the best" in parts when upgrading (assuming they can afford them) and if Greddy was "as good" or "better" then why are there so few on this forum? And no......sponsorship on this forum "is not" a deal breaker or deal maker.....nor is price.

I guarantee there are more gtm then greddy just on price alone. Y buy the expensive greddy when you can buy the gtm thats just as good for less. greddy and gtm are like argueing chevy and ford its worst than argueing religion around here. Put the two kits together when there completed and you get the same results or close too the same results its just ones more expensive. GTM also has more advertisment also tho. Its kind of like your chain restaurants verses mom and pop restaurants. the chains will have more customers per advertisement than your mom and pop with just word of mouth.

So you "feel" that Greddy's JB turbo's are more effective than GTM's BB turbo's... Gotcha.... :rolleyes:

Your risk management preference of choice is an outdated product, (hence why Greddy is lacking market share on the VQ Platform.) ;)

And no, i never stated you were mechanically inclined, therefor, you are entitled to your own blurred standpoint on this subject. :tup:

My best wishes on your journey on sticking with the Z :tiphat:

Hmmm...there seems to be a little misconception about the turbos used in our kit compared to those in the GReddy kit.

First, yes, the Mitsubishi 18g and 20g turbos are bigger than the Garrett GT2860RS turbos we use in our stage 1 kit. That said, all three turbos are more than enough to blow up your stock engine if pushed...so in this case, bigger is irrelevant. The key is reliability and responsiveness.

The Garret turbos we use are ball bearing, water cooled units that can take a lot of abuse. The Mitsubishi turbos GReddy uses are inexpensive, old designs that are oil cooled only and use old fashioned journal bearings. Do they do the job? Sure, but so does an old carburated, push-rod V8...old technology...who cares.

Our Twin Turbo kit uses a high efficiency bar and plate intercooler, whereas the Greddy kit uses an inexpensive and restrictive tube and fin intercooler.

Our Turn Key kit is $7,495
GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*GTM 370Z (TURN KEY) TWIN TURBO KIT

GReddy's Tuner kit is $9,520
GReddy

Our Turn-Key kit includes Engine Management, Fuel System Upgrades, and TiAl blow off Valves...the GReddy kit comes with none of that! Even if you got a smoking deal from some guy selling a GReddy Kit out of his garage for $20 over cost, you still end up paying more in the end with a GReddy kit because you will still have to buy Blow Off valves, engine management and fuel system upgrades.

So why pay more and get an incomplete kit with inexpensive components?

We're more concerned with making the best possible product for the best possible price with the most value for our customers. And if our customers have questions, we're here to help you understand what you're getting into and we're here to support you to ensure that you are happy with the product you get and that it performs.

Anyway, back to the whole Turbo thing. Let's say you have a built motor and are looking for big power. Well, the GReddy kit has bigger turbos you say. Have you looked at our Stage 3 Turn-Key package? $8,495 (still less expensive than the GReddy Tuner Kit) gets you a pair of Garrett GT3071R Turbos that push more air than the 20G turbos could ever hope...even if you sent the 20G's out to Blouch and had them upgraded with billet compressor wheels and clipped the turbines (more $$$).

Let's even argue that you could step up the 20g's to 25g's instead...have you seen our Stage 6 Kit? A pair of fire breathing Garrett GT3582R Turbos pushing 65lbs/min EACH. Guess what else...our Stage 6 kit is STILL less money than the GReddy kit.

Ultimately, we offer the best bang for the buck, whether you want a Twin Turbo Kit or a Supercharger Kit.

thanks mike i been trying to say that but you put it in a much better way.

Mike, thanks for re-emphasizing my point thoroughly.

You da man!

The facts always win.

I just want to ensure that I am understanding your point properly here. If you are saying that the GTM kit(s) are superior because they have newer tech parts and such, I am not sure I agree. There are plenty of "older tech" parts/devices around that fit the bill and work as intended. If you are saying that the GTM kit(s) are superior because they are offered as complete turn-key kit(s) and/or GTM's customer service, then I can accept that. Don't just chop a dude up because you feel like it.......

I am not debating GTM's stuff here. I just want to see where you stated all of the "point" that you are speaking of. Looked like opinions just like the other guy was saying. Maybe the facts you speak of came out when Mike chimed in..............