I wonder if Sams nose grows everytime he tells a fib? It was a bad injector period I've seen I myself.

let me know if i have summarize this accurately enough...

from reading all the post, it seems that

the original owner of the stillen SC kit was not happy and decided to move on to GTM...

the car was brought to sam for inspection to assure there are no issues with the engine.. spent 20 hrs on it... as a result, sam opined that the tune was not ideal, which resulted to the numbers and issues the car is producing with the stillen kit... well ofcourse he also has opinions on the design of the kit as well...

the kit was uninstalled, shipped to a buyer, and installed by the new buyer/owner along with a whole mess of new/cool/smart enhancement to the kit... he then was having problems with one of the injectors and sent to the manufacturer for inspection (obviously stillen's supplier)... that injector turned out to be faulty... somebody then mentioned that the issue with stillen's kit and its tune from one of the cars that use to have it, is only because of that single faulty injector that came with the kit...

...sam then indicates that there weren't any specific misfire codes that the ECU produced related to a faulty injector and that the sparkplugs looks normal...

he is now being called a liar...

my thoughts:
-is sam really happy for the stillen kit owners and did he really spent that much time assessing that kit he replaced? :stirthepot:
-i wonder if sam did try tuning the stillen kit and turned up more power than his?
-wasn't there other cars having the same issues with the tune as the original owner of the car with the kit?
-Did any of those other cars have issues with the tune showing misfire codes, messed up sparkplugs, and what not?
-how many times did stillen redo the tune? version 7 for CARB cert?
-could the injector been damaged through all the handling it went through?
-am having fun derailing this thread even more and is somebody going to care?
-is stillen still on the forum discussing their SC kit?
-what happened to greddy turbo kits?
-why would someone who has GTM product bash on the guy who designed his turbo kit? isn't that like calling ur sibling an SOB?
-why is there so much west coast east coast rivalry in the forum... not necesarily accurate but yeah...

:wtf2: sorry too much coffee in the morning... and was bored..

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

yes
maybe
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no clue
lots
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we care a lot
not that I have seen
greddy?
he wants slow response time from sam
Cuz Mid-A Kicks A$$
Coffee Good

Do we have to discuss about GTM vs Stillen SC in every freaking forced induction thread??

cant we just move on and forget the past? stillen sold a bad injector.. they had a lesson and they learned from it..

I dont even know why you people are bashing stillen's SC kit while you dont "even" own that kit..

because it's the forum.....

I can understand how a bad injector could cause all kinds of problems with any kit, but i don't understand why no one caught on to it. Stillen checked the car a number of times and GTM spent several hours on it as well.

As for the op, i would just PM MrSqueez or Dal1307, as they both have Stillen kits and seem happy with them. MrSqueez's kit required some customization but it seemed to be very worthwhile as he had nice results. If it is done right you shouldnt have to worry about excess repairs, however anything could happen and that's why they say, you gotta pay to play.

I believe everybody has moved on already, why is these threads keeps on popping up discussing the same issue? I don't get it.

For the people that is speaking without experience you need to STFU, it has nothing to do with you

Because it's the FI section of the forum...

It could be worse... see my 350 z dot com

Sorry, I guess i am just thinking out loud. I could care less really, i made my decision back in January.

Back to repairs, does anyone know of any other people with FI that have had transmission problems other than Shumby and the guy from Japan?

:iagree: that's why I don't post much there anymore.

I know a guy who blew 2 transmissions on his 09 g37 when he first installed the stillen kit.

Was it the higher gears in the AT like Shumby's?

what is this thread turning into?

Interesting. When did I blame stillen? yea let me know when you find that one. Didn't intend to start a panic frenzy as I was not the one who initially brought this up. Also there are a few others that had the same problem as weiboy did and this is why I said it. I didn't tell everyone who had the stillen kit to run out and test there injectors. I was more so saying to the people that are having issues that they might want to get this checked out. If you were having issues with your car that matched the issues I had, and it turned out I found something that was messed up, wouldn't you want me to share it with you? Also if I told you I had a bad injector you wouldn't go have yours tested? Now keep in mind there are a few others that are having the same issue that weiboy did. I think you might want to reread my posts. Sorry if I pissed you off by bringing something up you wanted to keep to your self but then again I am not the one who said there was a bad injector.

You pretty much some it up except Nismo's response as well as mine was because Sam said this.

Making the statement that the car had a bad injector and that is why the car was detonating is such a blanket statement and is inaccurate. We spent 20 hrs diagnosing this particular car and logging all the ECU parameters via Cipher and Nissan's ConsultIII Factory Diagnostic Tool. At no point was there any indication of one bad injector. If you have a bad injector on one of the banks of the engine, your correction factor will be different since one wideband on a particular bank will read richer or leaner. Eric's car did not have that symptom.

This might have been the case when he tested Eric's car but was not the case in mine. If Sam wants to say making a statement that a car has a bad injetor is a blanket statement. I could then say the same about is test results that was posted. We can go back and forth all day in the end this was not the topic of this thread but it ended up that way.