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98intrigue 03-30-2011 11:59 PM

What clutch are the turbo people running?
 
If I ever go FI down the road, I would definitely upgrade the clutch/flywheel setup.

On my old turbo G35, I ran an ACT 6-puck clutch and Fidanza flywheel. Granted the car made under 400wtq, the clutch NEVER slipped for the 50k miles it was boosted.

I'm curious to know what all you turbo guys/gals (wishful thinking) are running for clutch setups? I've seen a lot builds with the OS Giken, but I think that's a bit overkill.

JDMFairlady21 03-31-2011 09:28 AM

Unfortunately not much clutch choices that would hold the torque and be nice enough to be daily driven... i've tried them all on my old z33 TT.

We literally just tried to see if we can do TT installs without a clutch in the beginning, on Nigel's car. didnt do too well, lol Lasted about 150miles on it.

With clutches, you get what you pay for... even with the abuse that I put my old Z33 through, was making about 474rwhp and 47x tq, the Giken twin disc was perfectly fine. plus i drove from nassau county to work in suffolk county then to the upper west side of manhattan EVERYDAY, in traffic!

if i get bold enough, i'd take a pic of my left and right legs, they're still proportional ;) the engagement and pedal feel was slightly stiffer than stock but not overkill like a 6 puck would be

DIGItonium 03-31-2011 09:41 AM

I ordered a Southbend DXD Stage 4 with new flywheel along with an HD CSC kit. I don't now much about this stuff, but my car will be a daily driven boosted car pushing around 420-470 whp.

JDMFairlady21 03-31-2011 09:51 AM

which HD CSC did you order?

Billy02987 03-31-2011 12:29 PM

I will be running the JWT clutch/flywheel combo with the concept Z heavy duty CSC. My install should be getting done the first or second week of April, so I'll let you know how the setup feels.

DIGItonium 03-31-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMFairlady21 (Post 1023249)
which HD CSC did you order?

HD CSC ordered from ZSpeed. I wonder if Concept Z is selling the same product. It comes prefitted with ss lines, so there is no need to purchase a clutch line upgrade.

Billy02987 03-31-2011 01:34 PM

This is the one I have:
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...ages/5174l.jpg

RCZ 03-31-2011 02:20 PM

I have a southbend stage 4 and it feels great and is supposedly good for 600+wtq

Also, its easy on the CSC. I've had a factory CSC in there for several thousand boosted miles already and no problems.

Brazilbro 03-31-2011 02:40 PM

I have stock clutch and flywheel with over 2k boosted miles.. and holding strong

zzdudaka 04-05-2011 08:27 PM

Jdm. Are you saying the os giken was good? Sorry, but your post confused me a bit.

98intrigue 04-05-2011 09:52 PM

Just to let everyone know, I purchased an ACT 6puck clutch and Fidanza 15lb flywheel.

corner3garage 04-06-2011 01:00 PM

We like to use ACT 6 pucks also!

98intrigue 04-06-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by corner3garage (Post 1036459)
We like to use ACT 6 pucks also!

Have you installed any on a 370z/g37? I'm curious how the stock CSC has held up.

JB-370z 04-06-2011 05:50 PM

Still Running Stock Clutch ;)

toner123 04-06-2011 06:06 PM

same here stock clutch ftmfw I paid for it so I am going to burn it up lol

Dembflyr 04-07-2011 08:59 AM

I'm glad to see that people are having good luck with the stock clutch.

I'm with toner. I'll be running the stock one until I need to change it.

Mr.Squeeze 04-16-2011 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 1037269)
same here stock clutch ftmfw I paid for it so I am going to burn it up lol



I find it strange that you guys are having luck with the stock clutch. My car has only 3500 miles on it and has been boosted since 3000 and it slips. I can get a couple of pulls out of it thats it.

Now if I baby it the clutch doesnt have a problem I am getting rid of it soon.

weiboy718 04-16-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1056603)
I find it strange that you guys are having luck with the stock clutch. My car has only 3500 miles on it and has been boosted since 3000 and it slips. I can get a couple of pulls out of it thats it.

Now if I baby it the clutch doesnt have a problem I am getting rid of it soon.

for sure you are!

better be there on monday to get that thing.

JDMFairlady21 04-16-2011 09:39 AM

i agree with squeeze... so far every car that we've boosted needed a clutch prior or during steady state tuning. stock clutches are already slipping during tuning on the dyno, i'm amazed that some of you are holding up.

i wanted to verify it on nigel's car, so when his car had the TT kit installed, I instructed my tech to not install the Giken clutch to see if how long his stocker can hold up for. lets just say it didnt make it past tuning. Granted he could still drive on it while babying it on the streets, but if you laid on the gas pedal and did some spirited driving, it was slipping.

Mr.Squeeze 04-16-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1056720)
for sure you are!

better be there on monday to get that thing.

I will be home for sure I am not going to miss the UPS man lol .

Sharif@Forged 04-20-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1056603)
I find it strange that you guys are having luck with the stock clutch. My car has only 3500 miles on it and has been boosted since 3000 and it slips. I can get a couple of pulls out of it thats it.

Now if I baby it the clutch doesnt have a problem I am getting rid of it soon.

Yeah, the stocker is horrible for launching. I think for simple daily driving you might get better longevity out. But for spirited use, we like the OS Giken Twin Plate. It's the last clutch you'll buy for the VQ37.

roplusbee 04-20-2011 06:58 PM

I don't have any experience with OS Giken on the Z, but it was the truth on my (Euro CA18DET) S13 Fastback. If it is anything like the one I had on the Z, then it will be the money in traffic or during high performance driving.

JDMFairlady21 04-22-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1065241)
I don't have any experience with OS Giken on the Z, but it was the truth on my (Euro CA18DET) S13 Fastback. If it is anything like the one I had on the Z, then it will be the money in traffic or during high performance driving.

thats exactly my experience with it. I DAILY drove my car 120miles a day in nyc traffic for a long time till I got rid of the car. you get what you pay for

98intrigue 04-22-2011 10:48 AM

I'm about to suck it up and order an OS Giken. My Fidanza flywheel is sittin in t garage that I've just read of it failin on RCZ's car and a few others and it's been 3 weeks since I've ordered my ACT 6puck and I dont even have a shipping update. Grr

hindi1973 04-23-2011 10:59 AM

i have tried different clutches on a lot of cars , both import and domestic , and i never seen a better clutch feel than this one , but the car is almost new so i didnt drive it much , but i cant tell u this , it holds up more than fine for daily driving and insane driving
this combo is the best so u can be headache free for atleast 100kmiles
- Southbend Clutch STG 3
- ZSpeed Performance Heavy Duty Concentric Slave Cylinder w/ stainless steel lines

tranceformer 04-30-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 1065211)
Yeah, the stocker is horrible for launching. I think for simple daily driving you might get better longevity out. But for spirited use, we like the OS Giken Twin Plate. It's the last clutch you'll buy for the VQ37.

My Z isn't boosted but the stock clutch has taken plenty of abuse launching. ~100 track launches and half of them were @4,000 rpm. (knock on wood)

When I had it taken out it was still usable (no slipping), I put in a new OEM clutch for good measure (installed lightweight flywheel). no complaints from me on the stock clutch.

kkruel55 05-01-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hindi1973 (Post 1069603)
i have tried different clutches on a lot of cars , both import and domestic , and i never seen a better clutch feel than this one , but the car is almost new so i didnt drive it much , but i cant tell u this , it holds up more than fine for daily driving and insane driving
this combo is the best so u can be headache free for atleast 100kmiles
- Southbend Clutch STG 3
- ZSpeed Performance Heavy Duty Concentric Slave Cylinder w/ stainless steel lines

How necessary is a new CSC? I am looking at an OS Giken Twin plate and thinking I need a new CSC as well...

JB-370z 05-01-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkruel55 (Post 1082658)
How necessary is a new CSC? I am looking at an OS Giken Twin plate and thinking I need a new CSC as well...

I thinki depends on how you drive. If you are getting a new clutch might as well throw one of those bad boys in there while the trans is droped. If you plan on upping the boost right away I think a new clutch is a must. I have been at 6.5psi for a long time so my oem gear works just fine. Might as well have some fun with the oem clutch before getting a new. :happydance:

RCZ 05-12-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkruel55 (Post 1082658)
How necessary is a new CSC? I am looking at an OS Giken Twin plate and thinking I need a new CSC as well...

The OSGiken clutch is one of the hardest on the CSC. It will blow your stock one quickly so just go with the upgraded one right away...

Joe@ZSpeed 05-17-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1023707)
HD CSC ordered from ZSpeed. I wonder if Concept Z is selling the same product. It comes prefitted with ss lines, so there is no need to purchase a clutch line upgrade.

We supply Concept with our slave kits ;)

modme 05-17-2011 09:04 PM

Running OS Giken Twin Plate for over 10k miles. No problem with these and absolutely no slip.

roplusbee 05-17-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1117504)
Running OS Giken Twin Plate for over 10k miles. No problem with these and absolutely no slip.

Are you running the stock CSC or an upgraded one?

jlaughman22 05-26-2011 10:22 PM

Also running the os giken but had the csc replaced to prevent any issues. How are you guys launching with this clutch it grabs hard and stutters if i dont treat the stop light like a xmas tree, I feel like a 16 yr old learning how to shift a manual again :/

RCZ 05-26-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1023935)
I have a southbend stage 4 and it feels great and is supposedly good for 600+wtq

Also, its easy on the CSC. I've had a factory CSC in there for several thousand boosted miles already and no problems.


Aaaaand my stock csc died a few weeks after posting this. My advice, buy the metal csc, might as well install it while youre in there. Will save you money in the long run.

ChrisSlicks 05-27-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1135567)
Aaaaand my stock csc died a few weeks after posting this. My advice, buy the metal csc, might as well install it while youre in there. Will save you money in the long run.

:iagree: If you are in there get rid of the factory piece of crap.

I'm NA and my stock clutch slips on the 1-2 shift with V710's mounted.

JDMFairlady21 05-27-2011 09:19 AM

Just got my own OS Gkien Grant Touring Twin Disc... anxiously waiting to get some time to put it in with our own custom CSC.

JB-370z 05-27-2011 10:07 AM

Anyone have a link to buy the CSC upgrade for a OS twin clutch? I will buy it right now.

jlaughman22 05-27-2011 05:34 PM

350z 370z heavy duty CSC Concentic clutch slave cylinder

just specify the os giken as its more expensive

RCZ 05-27-2011 06:40 PM

why is there a osg specific version??

Joe@ZSpeed 05-28-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1137141)
why is there a osg specific version??

I won't go into much detail about this as obviously from the post in here others are making there own CSC versions.

There are areas that need addressed just for the OS giken clutches, get this wrong and the slave will not last long at all if it makes out of the garage before it blows out.

Over the last 2 years of testing with many different clutch set-ups we have all the bugs worked out and have an amazing product!

We have many, many customers in our Zspeed HD CSC with Zero failures. We actually have one customer that has been through 2 OS giken twin disk rebuilds on the same slave kit, he does nothing but drifting and beats the living **** out of it :tup: Says a lot for its durability.


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