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G37Sam 03-08-2012 10:28 AM

I really hate seeing this, two of the most useful & contributing vendors to the Z and G community not getting along. How amazing would it otherwise be if I could get an FI turbo back exhaust tailored for a stage II GTM turbo kit.

Come on fellas, I'll buy you both beer and offer you a stay in Dubai :D

FuszNissan 03-08-2012 10:30 AM

:drama:

XwChriswX 03-08-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 1587777)
I really hate seeing this, two of the most useful & contributing vendors to the Z and G community not getting along. How amazing would it otherwise be if I could get an FI turbo back exhaust tailored for a stage II GTM turbo kit.
Come on fellas, I'll buy you both beer and offer you a stay in Dubai :D

They already do silly. :icon17:

F.I. Inc. 03-08-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 1587777)
I really hate seeing this, two of the most useful & contributing vendors to the Z and G community not getting along. How amazing would it otherwise be if I could get an FI turbo back exhaust tailored for a stage II GTM turbo kit.

Come on fellas, I'll buy you both beer and offer you a stay in Dubai :D

G37Sam,

The offer is much appreciated. I would love to make a trip down to Dubai and see all of you! I would like to make it work with GTM, believe me I have tried! We could of made a lot of people happy working together and put out a lot of great joint products. We are only one hour away from each other so it would not be hard.

As far as the exhaust, I have a 3" exhaust that will mate up to the GTM TT kit perfectly. The exhaust is almost perfected and I did it to show the community that we want to support everyone with a TT kit. It does not matter if it is an FI TT kit (Summer 2012 release) or a GTM TT kit or a Greddy TT kit. Our exhaust is designed to fit them all! We support the community very passionately this exhaust hopefully shows that!

Thank you, Tony

b1adesofcha0s 03-08-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 1587789)
:drama:

+1 :drama:

roplusbee 03-08-2012 12:11 PM

Man...........Tony is in the FI section alot lately!

Nixlimited 03-08-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 1587777)
I really hate seeing this, two of the most useful & contributing vendors to the Z and G community not getting along.

:iagree:

One_Quick_Z 03-08-2012 05:50 PM

Wow I didnt mean to stir the pot that much,


Thanks Tony you make an excellent product and I love the LTH's



GTM will most likely be the kit of choice for me down the road(Not this year) and I will embark on a journy that few will I guess :)







DAN

roplusbee 03-08-2012 07:23 PM

In that case you get the 2 of the best products out there (speaking on a positive note).

XwChriswX 03-08-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1588062)
Man...........Tony is in the FI section alot lately!

With good reason.

F.I. Inc. 03-08-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z (Post 1588803)
Wow I didnt mean to stir the pot that much,


Thanks Tony you make an excellent product and I love the LTH's



GTM will most likely be the kit of choice for me down the road(Not this year) and I will embark on a journy that few will I guess :)







DAN

No worries Dan! I am just pleased that you are happy with our products.

Please do not hesitate to call me if you have any questions...

Thank you, Tony

SS_Firehawk 03-08-2012 10:36 PM

I don't own either product from F.I. or GTM. The only thing I really see from both manufacturers here is incredible customer service and quality parts to satisfy our power hungry appetites. I do know who I will go with if I ever do go the forced induction route and which exhaust I would buy if/when I get bored of mine. I'm not the most technical when it comes to turbos's exhaust, and motors and all that ****, though I do understand a lot. I have seen, that no matter what engine it is, with headers and superchargers, boost will drop. Now if you compare one car at the same psi with another and the latter has an LTH or full exhaust, it is a damn near guarantee that the car with the exhaust will put more power down per lbs of boost than the one that is stock. If I had it my way, I would find some way to get turbo's to work with my LTH's.... though I'm sure that will not happen.

One_Quick_Z 03-08-2012 11:10 PM

It wouldnt work just saying.... they are long tube headers not turbo manifolds.....






DAN

G37Sam 03-09-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1587790)
They already do silly. :icon17:

LOL, Tony's been ignoring us G37 fellas I guess then :p

F.I. Inc. 03-09-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 1589502)
LOL, Tony's been ignoring us G37 fellas I guess then :p

Not at all, just been overwhelmed on this side of the house. After the 370 3" exhaust & TT kit are perfected we plan to have it our for the G37 Coupe by Christmas!

Thanks, Tony

NOTE: My apologies to "TheDreamer" for high jacking his thread. G37Sam, pm me to discuss this further.

XwChriswX 03-09-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1589321)
I don't own either product from F.I. or GTM. The only thing I really see from both manufacturers here is incredible customer service and quality parts to satisfy our power hungry appetites. I do know who I will go with if I ever do go the forced induction route and which exhaust I would buy if/when I get bored of mine. I'm not the most technical when it comes to turbos's exhaust, and motors and all that ****, though I do understand a lot. I have seen, that no matter what engine it is, with headers and superchargers, boost will drop. Now if you compare one car at the same psi with another and the latter has an LTH or full exhaust, it is a damn near guarantee that the car with the exhaust will put more power down per lbs of boost than the one that is stock. If I had it my way, I would find some way to get turbo's to work with my LTH's.... though I'm sure that will not happen.

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Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z (Post 1589371)
It wouldnt work just saying.... they are long tube headers not turbo manifolds.....






DAN

Here is where I call the STS Turbo Kit, to the stand. :stirthepot:

Staples 03-09-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1589735)
Here is where I call the STS Turbo Kit, to the stand. :stirthepot:

They would still recommend the stock manifolds because the long tubes flow too much. Normally the less restrictive the better on a turbo that's under the hood. That's not the case for the rear mount turbo. That's why they use single 2 1/4" exhaust piping compared to a true dual 3" or even a single 3".

Nixlimited 03-09-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1590049)
They would still recommend the stock manifolds because the long tubes flow too much. Normally the less restrictive the better on a turbo that's under the hood. That's not the case for the rear mount turbo. That's why they use single 2 1/4" exhaust piping compared to a true dual 3" or even a single 3".

I don't know if it's necessarily an issue of flowing "too much." Turbos run off air flowing through them and the more air, the more force on the turbine blades, which then turn the compressor wheel. I think the reason you may see such small exhaust piping for the rear mount is to maintain the speed of the exhaust so that it imparts more energy on the turbine blades. As the exhaust diameter gets larger, there will be less back pressure, and the exhaust will slow down and spread out in the additional space. With a huge exhaust going to a rear mount turbo, I am guessing you would have a tough time spooling the turbo.

Staples 03-09-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1590081)
I don't know if it's necessarily an issue of flowing "too much." Turbos run off air flowing through them and the more air, the more force on the turbine blades, which then turn the compressor wheel. I think the reason you may see such small exhaust piping for the rear mount is to maintain the speed of the exhaust so that it imparts more energy on the turbine blades. As the exhaust diameter gets larger, there will be less back pressure, and the exhaust will slow down and spread out in the additional space. With a huge exhaust going to a rear mount turbo, I am guessing you would have a tough time spooling the turbo.

That's exactly what I was going with, but in a less detailed explanation.

370zrider 03-16-2013 04:47 PM

This info is very relevant for people like me who are doing research before going FI.

What I get from this is: GTM SC stage 1 and Fast Intentions LTH are both great products but they won't work together because of back pressure issues. Would you agree?

I wonder if anyone has tried: GTM SC stage 1 + Stillen headers + Stillen high flow cats?
Just for the sake of knowing if the formula of Supercharger + free flow exhaust means more power than supercharger with full stock exhaust.

Baer383 03-16-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zrider (Post 2217057)
This info is very relevant for people like me who are doing research before going FI.

What I get from this is: GTM SC stage 1 and Fast Intentions LTH are both great products but they won't work together because of back pressure issues. Would you agree?

I wonder if anyone has tried: GTM SC stage 1 + Stillen headers + Stillen high flow cats?
Just for the sake of knowing if the formula of Supercharger + free flow exhaust means more power than supercharger with full stock exhaust.

Replacing the exhaust manifolds on the 370 is a waste when going FI they flow very well and you can make very good power,I have stock cats and stock manifolds and making 516rwhp with a GTM stage 1.5 SC.


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