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ITOzann 11-04-2010 05:54 AM

this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts :roflpuke2:

:wtf2:

RCZ 11-04-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 795167)
this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts :roflpuke2:

:wtf2:

Why don't you provide something useful instead?

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 795167)
this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts :roflpuke2:

:wtf2:

:gtfo2:..dumbass..lol

weiboy718 11-04-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 795389)
:gtfo2:..dumbass..lol

Was it necessary to call people a dumbass?

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 12:10 PM

^^why yes..yes it was:icon17:

chuckd05 11-04-2010 12:52 PM

I think this kit is plenty worth it , to put down relatively safe power (450 whp). I think some people are under estimating even what an extra 60-100 whp will give you as far as driving feel, passing power, and overall increase in acceleration..

my only problem with this kit is how late the power comes on...

Jamaica 11-04-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 795593)
Was it necessary to call people a dumbass?

only cause ur one....:tup: jk

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 795743)
I think this kit is plenty worth it , to put down relatively safe power (450 whp). I think some people are under estimating even what an extra 60-100 whp will give you as far as driving feel, passing power, and overall increase in acceleration..

my only problem with this kit is how late the power comes on...


i agree..that xtra 60-100hp is NO joke at all...how late does the stillen charger come on?
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 795750)
only cause ur one....:tup: jk

haha thats just wrong:icon17:

ITOzann 11-04-2010 01:41 PM

Clearly this thread was a review and all the replies had nothing to do with it other than throwing useless comments from some people that don't even own an FI system.

Most people that run high numbers on TT'ed stock blocks(VQ platform) will never drive their car or abused them a track on a constant base. IF so, let's see how long those blocks will last. It is proven that the vq's can't abused when tt'ed on a constant base. If someone wants a reliable TT kit, that will cost nothing close to the stillen kit. There is no reliable TT kit at 10k lol, not even for an older car like the 350z.

I don't quit get it why people keep on crying about stillen gains. Stillen has a kit for the VQ35's and it is proven to be a reliable kit but with no crazy gains opposed to most FI systems out there. It's been out for years. Seems about the same concept to me in regards their new kit being offered to you guys. The kit is tuned conservatively and comes with a huge vortech blower. There is still room for improvement if people wants to play with it(ex:smaller blower pulley)

If you do the math, it was never cheap to gain power on a vq engine. How many of you have purchased, hfc, catbakcs, intakes, etc.. Think how much all the bolt ons cost you and make the hp gains/dollar calculation. After that compare to the price of a supercharger kit in terms of hp gains per dollar.

Stillen is offering a reliable COMPLETE kit with decent power gains, awesome customer support, lots of engineering behind their kit, testing, and reliability... for the price is worth it. I don't own one, but I've been close to one of their kits since they released it enough to have an opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 795607)
:gtfo2:..dumbass..lol

oh. really! I'll be as smart as you and get a TT cause is pimping yo!

I'll gtfo of here. no point on feeding the troll!

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 795891)
Clearly this thread was a review and all the replies had nothing to do with it than throwing useless comments from some people that don't even own an FI system.

Most people that run high numbers on TT'ed stock blocks(VQ platform) will never drive their car or abused them a track on a constant base. IF so, let's see how long those blocks will last. It is proven that the vq's can't take heavy abused when tt'ed on a constant base. If someone wants a reliable TT kit, that will cost nothing close to the stillen kit. There is no reliable TT kit at 10k lol, not even for an older car like the 350z.

I don't quit get it why people keep on crying about stillen gains. Stillen has a kit for the VQ35's and it is proven to be a reliable kit but with no crazy gains opposed to most FI systems out there. It's been out for years. Seems about the same concept to me in regards their new kit being offered to you guys. The kit is tuned conservatively and comes with a huge vortech blower. There is still room for improvement if people wants to play with it(ex:smaller blower pulley)

If you do the math, it was never cheap to gain power on a vq engine. How many of you have purchased, hfc, catbakcs, intakes, etc.. Think how much all that cost you and make the hp/dollar calculation. After that compare to the price of a supercharger kit in terms of hp gains per dollar.

Stillen is offering a reliable COMPLETE kit with decent power gains, awesome customer support, lots of engineering behind their kit, testing, and reliability... for the price is worth it. I don't own one, but I've been close to one of their kits enough to have an opinion.



oh. really! I'll be as smart as you and get a TT cause is pimping yo!

I'll gtfo of here. no point on feeding the troll!

you dont even own a S.C..why are you commenting again?...you've been CLOSE to one..wtf does that mean?..:gtfo2:

JB-370z 11-04-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 793940)
I don't seem to understand why turbo's are so much cooler, is it a status thing? That you spent $5000 more than I did for 25-50 more whp?

I connot agree with that statement one bit homie. You really think it all comes down to 5k more for 25-50whp??? And I think you have your math messed up on this one as well. For the note Turbo's are the sh!t, and you know it:p Plus I love having a little button that allows me to dial inn how much power I do or don't want. Plus the possiblities of adding more power is allways there. With a SC you are more or less stuck with the power you have. Plus who does not love the sound of a HKS BOV going off at max boost:happydance:


Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 795743)
I think this kit is plenty worth it , to put down relatively safe power (450 whp). I think some people are under estimating even what an extra 60-100 whp will give you as far as driving feel, passing power, and overall increase in acceleration..

my only problem with this kit is how late the power comes on...

60-100 whp is nice but 200-300whp is super nice :driving::happydance: I really don't think 60whp is not all that nor is 100whp thats just my opinion (I think it is just enough to piss me off) Kinda like those mini "fun size" snikers candy bars, they are just enough to piss me off :icon17:


For the note I have a GTM Stage 2 turn Key kit, 8K thats it. No clutch, no 3" exhaust non of the other stuff people say you "HAVE" to have with a turbo. Yes these components would be "nice" but not needed to get you safely up and running. My clutch will last at least a year if not longer plus the car could not be running better. Just my friendly opinion.



.

theDreamer 11-04-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 795953)
Kinda like those mini "fun size" snikers candy bars, they are just enough to piss me off :icon17:

Still made about that hamburger last weekend? :p

Lug 11-04-2010 02:53 PM

Who the hell is only getting 60 hp out of this kit? :confused:

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 796068)
Who the hell is only getting 60 hp out of this kit? :confused:

everybody with a Stillen charger:icon17:...i kid i kid:p

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 02:57 PM

actually it believe its anywhere between 390-455 whp at this point..

toner123 11-04-2010 03:01 PM

It is amazing how the info people provided gets twisted. I believe from reading the posts and seeing the kit that it is nicely built, but just requires a custom tune to get the max out of it. The day of bashing this kit really needs to come to a end. There are customers now driving there car with this kit and stillens tune, and they are happy with what they have. IMO thats all that matters, so please lets move on from this.
Frank

weiboy718 11-04-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 795904)
you dont even own a S.C..why are you commenting again?...you've been CLOSE to one..wtf does that mean?..:gtfo2:

now how do you know he doesn't have one?

He's my buddy and I'm running the Stillen SC now you get what he meant by CLOSE to one.

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 795891)
Clearly this thread was a review and all the replies had nothing to do with it other than throwing useless comments from some people that don't even own an FI system.

Most people that run high numbers on TT'ed stock blocks(VQ platform) will never drive their car or abused them a track on a constant base. IF so, let's see how long those blocks will last. It is proven that the vq's can't abused when tt'ed on a constant base. If someone wants a reliable TT kit, that will cost nothing close to the stillen kit. There is no reliable TT kit at 10k lol, not even for an older car like the 350z.

I don't quit get it why people keep on crying about stillen gains. Stillen has a kit for the VQ35's and it is proven to be a reliable kit but with no crazy gains opposed to most FI systems out there. It's been out for years. Seems about the same concept to me in regards their new kit being offered to you guys. The kit is tuned conservatively and comes with a huge vortech blower. There is still room for improvement if people wants to play with it(ex:smaller blower pulley)

If you do the math, it was never cheap to gain power on a vq engine. How many of you have purchased, hfc, catbakcs, intakes, etc.. Think how much all the bolt ons cost you and make the hp gains/dollar calculation. After that compare to the price of a supercharger kit in terms of hp gains per dollar.

Stillen is offering a reliable COMPLETE kit with decent power gains, awesome customer support, lots of engineering behind their kit, testing, and reliability... for the price is worth it. I don't own one, but I've been close to one of their kits since they released it enough to have an opinion.



oh. really! I'll be as smart as you and get a TT cause is pimping yo!

I'll gtfo of here. no point on feeding the troll!

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796110)
now how do you know he doesn't have one?

He's my buddy and I'm running the Stillen SC now you get what he meant by CLOSE to one.

^^read

weiboy718 11-04-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 796122)
^^read

Maybe you should open up your eyes and reread. He said he doesn't own a Stillen kit, does that mean he doesn't own something else.

JB-370z 11-04-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 795970)
Still mad about that hamburger last weekend? :p

Yeah I am!!! Hahahahaha...I ate that hamburger in less than 2 min, that is a good example of "just enough to piss me off". hahahaha :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

60-100 extra whp
http://raphaellowe.com/portal/wp-con...45utrjuygj.jpg

200-300 extra whp
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/big-burger-chick.jpg

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796127)
Maybe you should open up your eyes and reread. He said he doesn't own a Stillen kit, does that mean he doesn't own something else.

listen i dont give a **** what he owns...he jumps in here talking about this thread should be closed with nothing useful to say..

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 796134)
Yeah I am!!! Hahahahaha...I ate that hamburger in less than 2 min, that is a good example of "just enough to piss me off". hahahaha :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

60-100 extra whp
http://raphaellowe.com/portal/wp-con...45utrjuygj.jpg

200-300 extra whp
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/big-burger-chick.jpg

:bowrofl:

#452-LE 11-04-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 796134)
Yeah I am!!! Hahahahaha...I ate that hamburger in less than 2 min, that is a good example of "just enough to piss me off". hahahaha :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

60-100 extra whp
http://raphaellowe.com/portal/wp-con...45utrjuygj.jpg

200-300 extra whp
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/big-burger-chick.jpg

:roflpuke2:

Like giving a whale a tic-tac.

weiboy718 11-04-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 796136)
listen i dont give a **** what he owns...he jumps in here talking about this thread should be closed with nothing useful to say..

He's right! What's wrong with that? The OP Is trying to give a good review and some of you guys just like to throw a bashing party on Stillen when ya'll don't even have the kit. Let the people who has it bash. you don't see the Stillen guys talking ****. The mod should come in here and delete the useless post or threads from people bad comments.

Look man, if everybody will be nice this can be a good community. So instead of talking **** why don't everybody just share their thoughts and help. Keep your bad comments to yourself.

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796260)
He's right! What's wrong with that? The OP Is trying to give a good review and some of you guys just like to throw a bashing party on Stillen when ya'll don't even have the kit. Let the people who has it bash. you don't see the Stillen guys talking ****. The mod should come in here and delete the useless post or threads from people bad comments.

Look man, if everybody will be nice this can be a good community. So instead of talking **** why don't everybody just share their thoughts and help. Keep your bad comments to yourself.

give it a rest man...pretty please..with sugar on top:tup:

weiboy718 11-04-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 796294)
give it a rest man...pretty please..with sugar on top:tup:

Put a cherry on it too please lol.

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796341)
Put a cherry on it too please lol.

lol..this is getting kinda gay man..im out:icon17:

christian370z 11-04-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 795953)
My clutch will last at least a year if not longer plus the car could not be running better. Just my friendly opinion.

That is incredible the stock clutch can take that much power and still hold for an appreciable amount of time. Do you have to take care to baby the clutch at all?

JB-370z 11-04-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 796492)
That is incredible the stock clutch can take that much power and still hold for an appreciable amount of time. Do you have to take care to baby the clutch at all?

Nope, just keep the boost low and drive her like I want to. There is too much BS about turbo's that too many in here run their mouth about! When most of it could not be more wrong, but thats ok. If anything I would like to keep the head count of turbo boost 370's low so I stay a rare breed! Hahahaha

Edit: You have to remember, with the GTM kit the tune is good to I think like 16 or 18 psi. If you have a boost controller you can dial in how much boost you want. So if you have a stock clutch, 99% of the time just run low boost unless a superchagred 370z pulls up, than boost up a notch or two so you can leave him in the dust like I do Dreamer hahahaha!

Edit 2: Dreamer 335's won't help you muahahahahaha! Sorry homie, I had too, if you don't remember you were the one who wanted to race!

chuckd05 11-04-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 796134)
Yeah I am!!! Hahahahaha...I ate that hamburger in less than 2 min, that is a good example of "just enough to piss me off". hahahaha :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

60-100 extra whp
http://raphaellowe.com/portal/wp-con...45utrjuygj.jpg

200-300 extra whp
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/big-burger-chick.jpg


lmao ... still better than nothing though right ?

I get your point though, lets not beat that horse anymore ok ? :bowrofl:

ITOzann 11-04-2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 796122)
^^read

you are truly immature, have no sense about a topic, and lack of respect. For you information I own a vq35 since 04 and I've done lots of research on the vq platform. Along with that, I own an hks stage 5 supercharger. Installation was done by myself. Now, I might not own a stillen kit but I have been running around with weiboy since he started looking for a sc kit up tp now(he was one of the first ones to place an order)

Besides acting like a kid and bashing on a product why don't you keep your immature comments to yourself. You don't even own a Stillen kit or have dealt with one lol...If you like TT's and don't like the Stillen kit. AWESOME! nothing wrong with it, but at some point whoever comes into this thread dont't give a damn about what you think...... Obviously, OP created a thread about the kit so people in search of the Stillen kit can get to know more about the kit. It is not a discussion between SC's vs TT's ... People like you truly screw threads that bring useful information to the community.

toner123 11-04-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 796642)
you are truly immature, have no sense about a topic, and lack of respect. For you information I own a vq35 since 04 and I've done lots of research on the vq platform. Along with that, I own an hks stage 5 supercharger. Installation was done by myself. Now, I might not own a stillen kit but I have been running around with weiboy since he started looking for a sc kit(one of the first ones to place an order)

Besides acting like a kid and bashing on a product why don't you keep your immature comments. You don't even own a Stillen kit or have dealt with one lol...If you like TT's and don't like the Stillen kit. AWESOME! nothing wrong with it, but at some point whoever comes into this thread dont't give a damn about what you think...... Obviously, OP created a thread about the kit so people in search of the Stillen kit can get to know more about the kit. It is not a discussion between SC's vs TT's ... People like you truly screw threads that bring useful information to the community.

Please lets just move on

toner123 11-04-2010 09:30 PM

I have a few questions to the OP that I would like him to follow up on.

I know you mentioned about the slight knock and how it went away when you fueled with 101 octane and it mixed with the 91 octane and it went away. There fore after that you said you try to fill with 93. After you filled with 93 did you notice if the knock went away or was it still present?

Also I was wondering if you plan on bringing it to stillens attention about the starting issue(if we really want to call it that) to see if they can adjust your fuel trim for starting? Like I said this is a easy fix and I think you should notify them of it and get it corrected. Just for the sake of being, after that it will be perfect. Please keep us informed.
Frank

weiboy718 11-04-2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 796660)
I have a few questions to the OP that I would like him to follow up on.

I know you mentioned about the slight knock and how it went away when you fueled with 101 octane and it mixed with the 91 octane and it went away. There fore after that you said you try to fill with 93. After you filled with 93 did you notice if the knock went away or was it still present?

Also I was wondering if you plan on bringing it to stillens attention about the starting issue(if we really want to call it that) to see if they can adjust your fuel trim for starting? Like I said this is a easy fix and I think you should notify them of it and get it corrected. Just for the sake of being, after that it will be perfect. Please keep us informed.
Frank

okay, i've got an update! i just received the tune # R8 on Monday. car is running just like before but a lot less detonation on low end. my hot starting is fixed so as the unstable idling. power feels the same just like before up to redline. just like the OP i don't care what it say's on the dyno, as long as it drives good and minimal problems i'll be happy. with this tune i can actually control my detonation by giving more throttle on 1st gear or reverse. by far this tune works best for me and can probably get better later on when Stillen and Uprev work out something new. most important is it drives just like stock but a lot faster and i'm pretty happy as it is now!

idk why the 370z is getting 375whp but i'm making 411whp and my car(G37) is a tad heavier than the Z. realistically i'm gaining over 100whp. now that's pretty good imo. here's the proof and i believe many of you had already seen it but i'll post it again anyway.

toner123 11-04-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796696)
okay, i've got an update! i just received the tune # R8 on Monday. car is running just like before but a lot less detonation on low end. my hot starting is fixed so as the unstable idling. power feels the same just like before up to redline. just like the OP i don't care what it say's on the dyno, as long as it drives good and minimal problems i'll be happy. with this tune i can actually control my detonation by giving more throttle on 1st gear or reverse. by far this tune works best for me and can probably get better later on when Stillen and Uprev work out something new. most important is it drives just like stock but a lot faster and i'm pretty happy as it is now!

idk why the 370z is getting 375whp but i'm making 411whp and my car(G37) is a tad heavier than the Z. realistically i'm gaining over 100whp. now that's pretty good imo. here's the proof and i believe many of you had already seen it but i'll post it again anyway.

Man that dyno sheet looks like pure sex lol. I am loving the gain on it and I know that has to feel nice. Now my question to you is, the detonation doesn't scare you? When i was doing research on FI everyone was saying as long as the tune is good and no detonation I really wont effect the reliability of the vehical. Maybe you can help me understand this. Thanks
Frank

weiboy718 11-04-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 796705)
Man that dyno sheet looks like pure sex lol. I am loving the gain on it and I know that has to feel nice. Now my question to you is, the detonation doesn't scare you? When i was doing research on FI everyone was saying as long as the tune is good and no detonation I really wont effect the reliability of the vehical. Maybe you can help me understand this. Thanks
Frank

it does and it doesn't scare me, having a mixed feeling on it right now. detonation isn't good but i've also heard that many cars in the modern days have slight detonation even on stock cars. that's what is making me feel better driving it lol. my car only detonates down low picking up on 1st gear only. if it detonates on higher rpms than it's really really bad and shouldn't drive the car at all. back in 07 when i had my leased G35 coupe it was making the same clicking(ping) noise and i thought that was from the flywheel till i recently took my current car to a local tuner and he told me that's detonation and that's how i know even with a stock engine it may still detonate from the factory. so i'm actually not too worry about it. hope it all makes sense lol

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITOzann (Post 796642)
you are truly immature, have no sense about a topic, and lack of respect. For you information I own a vq35 since 04 and I've done lots of research on the vq platform. Along with that, I own an hks stage 5 supercharger. Installation was done by myself. Now, I might not own a stillen kit but I have been running around with weiboy since he started looking for a sc kit up tp now(he was one of the first ones to place an order)

Besides acting like a kid and bashing on a product why don't you keep your immature comments to yourself. You don't even own a Stillen kit or have dealt with one lol...If you like TT's and don't like the Stillen kit. AWESOME! nothing wrong with it, but at some point whoever comes into this thread dont't give a damn about what you think...... Obviously, OP created a thread about the kit so people in search of the Stillen kit can get to know more about the kit. It is not a discussion between SC's vs TT's ... People like you truly screw threads that bring useful information to the community.

Thanks for the long winded rebuttal..like I stated before I don't care what you own or what type of "expertise" you may think you have..you have offered no usefull info at all..just let it go man.

tomnavone 11-04-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796696)
okay, i've got an update! i just received the tune # R8 on Monday. car is running just like before but a lot less detonation on low end. my hot starting is fixed so as the unstable idling. power feels the same just like before up to redline. just like the OP i don't care what it say's on the dyno, as long as it drives good and minimal problems i'll be happy. with this tune i can actually control my detonation by giving more throttle on 1st gear or reverse. by far this tune works best for me and can probably get better later on when Stillen and Uprev work out something new. most important is it drives just like stock but a lot faster and i'm pretty happy as it is now!

idk why the 370z is getting 375whp but i'm making 411whp and my car(G37) is a tad heavier than the Z. realistically i'm gaining over 100whp. now that's pretty good imo. here's the proof and i believe many of you had already seen it but i'll post it again anyway.

This dyno sheet is from july. 7 tunes ago y don't u post an independent dyno seperate from stillens? Like the dyno u got done at z car garage and your numbers were lower than mine and I'm at 377 and my car drives like crap from every one of the stillen tunes. Sorry to call u out but the thing that upset me with the whole kit is stillen marketed it as a turn key kit. And we both bought this kit as a turn kit kit. But we have eight different tunes and there is always something wrong with the tune and its been a huge hassle. If anyone buys this kit just know u have to get it custom tuned unlike what still advertised as a simple flash tune. Its been far from that. and once u get get it custom tuned u have no warranty.
I hope your happy stillen i took out my "crappy stillen supercharge"r out of signature since it seemed to really upset u guys and u wouldnt let me return my kit or help me unless i did that

wishihadnav 11-04-2010 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 796737)
it does and it doesn't scare me, having a mixed feeling on it right now. detonation isn't good but i've also heard that many cars in the modern days have slight detonation even on stock cars. that's what is making me feel better driving it lol. my car only detonates down low picking up on 1st gear only. if it detonates on higher rpms than it's really really bad and shouldn't drive the car at all. back in 07 when i had my leased G35 coupe it was making the same clicking(ping) noise and i thought that was from the flywheel till i recently took my current car to a local tuner and he told me that's detonation and that's how i know even with a stock engine it may still detonate from the factory. so i'm actually not too worry about it. hope it all makes sense lol

Detonation is definately not good..have you contacted stillen about?

weiboy718 11-04-2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomnavone (Post 796799)
This dyno sheet is from july. 7 tunes ago y don't u post an independent dyno seperate from stillens? Like the dyno u got done at z car garage and your numbers were lower than mine and I'm at 377 and my car drives like crap from every one of the stillen tunes

sure, i can post all that! it's not a big deal. hold on, gathering the dyno sheets.

first one is at Stillen's facility. tune # 1
2nd one is at ZCG. tune # 6
3rd one is at Stillen's facility again. tune # 7

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532013@N03/5147613014/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532013@N03/5147353335/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532013@N03/5147353459/


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