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JB-370z 07-12-2010 10:24 PM

Hhahaha not cheap I know. I am getting and addtional screen installed above my pioneer nav head unit where the compartment is. It will be much like the GTR with engine vitals viewable in digital format with data logging. I love technology and I know this is not for everyone, well I am sure everyone likes the idea but not the price envolved.
The only sensors that need the AFK is the A/F and Knock. The rest you just buy and add as you need.

toner123 07-12-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 619438)
Well first I would like to start out saying I hope you get good news from the shop today! Hope it does not cost to much to get it up and running.
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HKS Camp2:
It plugs right into your OBD2 connection under the steering wheel. The cable goes from your OBD2 to the HKS Camp2 unit(Mine is currently in the glove box). This cable provides access to many stock sensors and readings. This same cable provides power for the Camp2 unit so no need for any addtional wiring. Now to get signal to a display is even easier. Just connect RCA cables that comes with the unit into the Camp2 box and then to a video/audio source. Turn on the car, and then change the display to that input and then BAM! You have data! (Make sure you calibrate and setup)


Super easy! Super Clean! Super Informative!

I am not a fan of having gauges in every corner and cubby hole of a clean dash. Sorry everyone has there own opp. but this is mine, not trying to hate on anyone's style.


If you want the a/f read out you need to get the HKS AFK amp(One of the best investments in my book). You can connect the Camp2 to this to get A/F data from. Not cheap but you know the name of the game at this point.


Boost is simple, just buy the boost sensor and be done with it. How ever the only other thing you will need to buy other then the Camp2 unit and sensors is the IF Unit. The IF unit is where all the sensors connect to. All sensors connect to this unit and than only one cable connects the IF unit and the Camp2 unit together.



****The only thing thats needed to get you started though is the HKS Camp2 unit. Everything else can be purchased as needed.




Here's whats needed for what you said you want:

HKS Camp 2 Unit: HKS USA CAMP2

HKS IF Unit and Sensors: HKS USA CAMP2 Optional IF Unit and Sensors

HKS AFK: HKS USA AFK



:driving:

Well thank you for the very elaborate write up. It answers alot of my questions. Although i will not buy the AFK. I really don't see that being worth the money. I know through the OBDII port you can read a/f ratio but was told it's not pin point accurate but it gives you general guildlines. I think that would have to be sufficient enough because if there is ever a problem it would still read diffrent from what it really did. I am also sure the the camp2 can read this. As for the other stuff i think that is a fair price considering all it can do and to add a sensor for boost isn't going to break the bank. The only thing is i do not remeber seeing RCA jacks in my center console. Now I have the navigation package and the Ipd hook up and the owner manual shows them below it, but for the life of me I really don't think I have them. Was this something they added in the 2010 model or a special package you had to get? Thanks for the info JB helped a ton'
Frank

JB-370z 07-13-2010 09:54 AM

This is what I ment when I said get creative!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_wgFNZZBDMaE/TD...2015.01.14.jpg

toner123 07-13-2010 11:07 AM

Update: Just got off the phone with Hill's garage and so far so good. he started looking over the build yesterday and is continuing to do so and so far he hasn't found anything that I screwed up. His exact words were so far looks like you did a hell of a job. So I am a little happy about that. He said he would have the look over process done this afternoon and depending on what time he should give me a call tonight or first thing in the morning and possibly move the car on to the dyno and start reading out the infor from there and see if why the car is acting goofy.

Things I noticed before the car left to go to the shop that I forgot to add in this thread:
I noticed the passanger side had a slight exhaust leak. Not sure on location of it but i told them to check the car for exhaust leaks and told them about the passanger side. Also the passanger turbo 14mm Banjo fitting that connects turbo to turbo is leaking a tad bit of coolant. And when i say a tad bit I mean a tad bit. The only reason I noticed this is when i got under the car to change the oil again I seen a little dried crust coolant on the fitting. I put a wrench on it a tightend it down and didn't apear to be leaking any more but i asked them to check it out and make sure its good.(rather be safe then sorry). Had to be a verry small leak because like I said coolent never hit the ground after I start the car I always put a big piece of card board underneath the car and check it the next day and never did I have any fluid on it. Note: Who ever does a self install make sure you tighten those fittings down good, driver side gets one banjo fitting and thats the one you install after the turbo is in so it's a tight fit. AS the passanger get a total of 3 of them.

I'll provide more updates as I get them, thanks for the support everyone :happydance:
Frank

tao168 07-13-2010 04:16 PM

Looks nice but down in this side of the world we only have the nav pack, can't not take it lol for better or worst we're stuck with it

Kirkster 07-23-2010 04:09 AM

So how did things turn out???

RCZ 07-23-2010 08:37 AM

not as cheap as he was hoping I imagine.

m4a1mustang 07-23-2010 08:47 AM

In for update.

toner123 07-23-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 640878)
not as cheap as he was hoping I imagine.

Actually you are wrong. Please don't make assumptions

Update: I really haven't been providing one because for the last three weeks I have been sitting on a 24 hour deployment alart. Pretty much means they can call me any min and tell me grab your things and be at work in the next hour we are deploying. The shop is also a little busy and they were going to get me squeezed in but I called them up and told them no rush and explained my situation. They said no problem and pushed me back since they had a couple of projects still lined up. I didn't want them to do something or get to a pint to where they might need a deposit or anything else and them not be able to get a hold of me. Also shipping the car back to me I have to be there to receive it since I am the registered owner. So there is multiple situations going on here and the shop is fantastic to be working with me on this. The car is in the same condition that I gave it to them in. He is going to fix the few things I asked him to do for me when he first got it and then throw it on the dyno. That is how the situation sits right now. Has nothing to do with funds RC, my build, or the shop where my car is at, but the fact at any moment I might get a phone call to go somewhere for a little while. Thanks for your interest and I promise I will give updates as they come. There just hasn't been anything to update since now work is holding the process up.
Frank

BeachZTT 07-23-2010 12:38 PM

Hey, if there is anything I can do to help you out let me know. Even as an alternate POC while you are away.

Russ

toner123 07-23-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 641165)
Hey, if there is anything I can do to help you out let me know. Even as an alternate POC while you are away.

Russ

Well thank you very much for your generosity. They still have a date to work on it and the plan is Aug 9. Hopefully they will not deploy me since I been gone already for most of the year and most of last year. My big worry is the transport company since they are pretty firm on me having to be there to accept the car. I asked if they would let my girl sign for it and with no hesitation he said no unless she is also registered to the car. So right now i am weighing my options and I put all plans in to effect just in case I do go. Like I said the shop where my car is at is doing a awesome job to help with this situation, but they have there own problems also. They do not leave car's out. So at the end of everyday all the cars get put in the garage and locked up. Well at the end of August the shop has 4 projects scheduled to come in and there will be no room for them to continue to store my car. Like i said thats all worked out though and honestly I don't think I am going anywhere. By the beginning of next week I should find out if the 24 hr report will be switched to stand down or remain active.
Frank

BeachZTT 07-23-2010 01:21 PM

No prob. Besides, I am investing to use you as a future sounding board in the future. Karen was taking bets last night that I would have the raodster TT'd before ZDayZ next year. :) All joking aside, if there is anything I can do...

FuszNissan 07-23-2010 01:48 PM

I am having Zdayz withdraws.

toner123 07-23-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 641227)
No prob. Besides, I am investing to use you as a future sounding board in the future. Karen was taking bets last night that I would have the raodster TT'd before ZDayZ next year. :) All joking aside, if there is anything I can do...

Not understanding what you mean as a future sounding board. I'll let you know when my car gets here not sure where your at in va but your more then welcome to come over and we can go for a ride in it. I'll also let you take it for a spin so you can test the waters and see if thats what you wanna do. As for Z day next year I am so frigging going to be there. wanted to go this year but couldn't make it.
Frank


Lou I'll take it that you had a great time LOL.

RCZ 07-23-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 640931)
Actually you are wrong. Please don't make assumptions

Update: I really haven't been providing one because for the last three weeks I have been sitting on a 24 hour deployment alart. Pretty much means they can call me any min and tell me grab your things and be at work in the next hour we are deploying. The shop is also a little busy and they were going to get me squeezed in but I called them up and told them no rush and explained my situation. They said no problem and pushed me back since they had a couple of projects still lined up. I didn't want them to do something or get to a pint to where they might need a deposit or anything else and them not be able to get a hold of me. Also shipping the car back to me I have to be there to receive it since I am the registered owner. So there is multiple situations going on here and the shop is fantastic to be working with me on this. The car is in the same condition that I gave it to them in. He is going to fix the few things I asked him to do for me when he first got it and then throw it on the dyno. That is how the situation sits right now. Has nothing to do with funds RC, my build, or the shop where my car is at, but the fact at any moment I might get a phone call to go somewhere for a little while. Thanks for your interest and I promise I will give updates as they come. There just hasn't been anything to update since now work is holding the process up.
Frank

Woah, I wasnt saying its taking a while because you can't afford it. All I'm saying is that things didnt work out as planned and its not going to be as cheap as if you had just done it yourself. Not making any assumptions, but don't you think its a safe bet to say that since now you've had to ship it and have someone else work on the car, its going to cost you more money than if you had not? That's all I was getting at.

toner123 07-23-2010 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 641751)
Woah, I wasnt saying its taking a while because you can't afford it. All I'm saying is that things didnt work out as planned and its not going to be as cheap as if you had just done it yourself. Not making any assumptions, but don't you think its a safe bet to say that since now you've had to ship it and have someone else work on the car, its going to cost you more money than if you had not? That's all I was getting at.

You are right RCZ my sincere apologize. I may have understood what you said in the wrong context. I sincerely do apologize for falsely accusing you and I was the one to make an assumption. Once again please forgive my piss poor attitude.

To answer your questions though. I wouldn't say it cost more then expected. I assumed that something could go wrong so I set aside some money to accommodate that situation. He didn't find anything extra wrong that I wasn't already aware about, This is the part that made me feel good about the job I did. But upon completion I planned on sending the car some where weather bad or good to a very respectable shop, just to look over my build and to protect my investment. All in all I would have fixed all the things that I have found but to be frank about it I was running out of time. Thats when the real decision came to where I said alright well I planned to send it to a shop anyway so i will just get them to fix the things I have noted. The amount of money spent on everything was between the kit and tools+ shop was pretty damn expensive I Will not lie but this is everything that I have already planned in my budget. My main purpose of me actually installing the kit was for me to learn and understand how it all works. I have never done anything like this before. Yea to save a little money crossed my mind, but i put enough away just in case it had to come to that. The only reason it is taking longer then expected is because me having the car pushed back because of possible deployment.

Any other questions are welcomed and once again RCZ my apologize.
Frank

JB-370z 07-23-2010 07:47 PM

Toner: I hope to see the car running soon man! Trust me, it is going to be worth the wait buddy!:driving::tup:

BeachZTT 07-25-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 641455)
Not understanding what you mean as a future sounding board. I'll let you know when my car gets here not sure where your at in va but your more then welcome to come over and we can go for a ride in it. I'll also let you take it for a spin so you can test the waters and see if thats what you wanna do. As for Z day next year I am so frigging going to be there. wanted to go this year but couldn't make it.
Frank


Lou I'll take it that you had a great time LOL.

Frank,
I just meant that you would be great person to bounce ideas/concerns/frustration off of if I decide to TT the roadster because you've been there.

Thanks for the offer. I would love to check our your build when you get her sorted out.

I missed ZDayZ this year too due to several scheduling conflicts. We had booked our cabin when we checked out from the 2009 event so it was pretty disappointing. Good news is, I used my ZDayZ budget to buy the Work wheels I have on the Z32TT. :)

RCZ 07-26-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 641805)
You are right RCZ my sincere apologize. I may have understood what you said in the wrong context. I sincerely do apologize for falsely accusing you and I was the one to make an assumption. Once again please forgive my piss poor attitude.

To answer your questions though. I wouldn't say it cost more then expected. I assumed that something could go wrong so I set aside some money to accommodate that situation. He didn't find anything extra wrong that I wasn't already aware about, This is the part that made me feel good about the job I did. But upon completion I planned on sending the car some where weather bad or good to a very respectable shop, just to look over my build and to protect my investment. All in all I would have fixed all the things that I have found but to be frank about it I was running out of time. Thats when the real decision came to where I said alright well I planned to send it to a shop anyway so i will just get them to fix the things I have noted. The amount of money spent on everything was between the kit and tools+ shop was pretty damn expensive I Will not lie but this is everything that I have already planned in my budget. My main purpose of me actually installing the kit was for me to learn and understand how it all works. I have never done anything like this before. Yea to save a little money crossed my mind, but i put enough away just in case it had to come to that. The only reason it is taking longer then expected is because me having the car pushed back because of possible deployment.

Any other questions are welcomed and once again RCZ my apologize.
Frank

No worries man, thanks for the apology, you went above and beyond haha. Best of luck with the build, hopefully the car is back on the road quickly.

LateralG'z 07-26-2010 07:32 PM

Get ur done!

toner123 07-27-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 645406)
No worries man, thanks for the apology, you went above and beyond haha. Best of luck with the build, hopefully the car is back on the road quickly.

Thanks and I hope so to. i really miss driving it and i grow more anxious every day.

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 641817)
Toner: I hope to see the car running soon man! Trust me, it is going to be worth the wait buddy!:driving::tup:

Me to. I hope it's worth it since I spent a boat load of cash to do this. If it doesn't have the appeal I am putting a for sale sign on it LOL

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 645557)
Get ur done!

Lat if i give you the shops number will you call and yell at them to get it done lol. What sucks is it already would have been done if the military didn't put me on this 24 hour stand by, but O well. I have zero patience, I am the type of person that when i want something I want it now lol

Thanks for all your support everyone, it is greatly appreciated
Frank

fuct 07-28-2010 10:55 AM

good luck on any future deployment and on the Z!!

JB-370z 07-28-2010 11:11 AM

Any word?

toner123 07-28-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 648297)
good luck on any future deployment and on the Z!!

Thank you

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 648336)
Any word?

None yet I talked to them today about possibly installing a boost controller for me. I have been looking at the EVC-S and looks like it is kind of hard to install or maybe I am just making it seem like that. They wanted any where from 400-600 to install it and I think that is a little high. I did alot of reading online of other hks instructions and none of them seem to match the setup that is on my car.

Any help like a diagram would be greatly appreciated on how to run all the vacuum hoses and where to connect them.
Frank

BeachZTT 07-28-2010 06:55 PM

I am not familiar with that particular ebc but that seems a little on the high side to me too. I am running a Profec B SpecII in the Z32TT. I can't imagine not having it to dial down the hp. I run "low" boost almost all the time. Keep in mind that low boost for me is about 13.5 psi though.

Um... when she come back right, you won't even dream of selling her. :)

toner123 08-30-2010 02:46 PM

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Alright let me update the community and bring this thread back to life.

I got my car back last Tuesday. I waited on the update because i wanted to drive it and see how it goes. So right now I have been driving it everyday for the last week and i am loving every min of it. The power is smooth and not erratic through the power band. My boost kicks in around 3000 RPM and it puts you in your seat a little bit. As for fuel economy I am pretty much getting the same MPG as I did before the kit.

Now while it was at the shop they put it on the dyno and I will post the run sheet. Before everyone jumps all over it please keep in mind that this is off the internal waste gates and for everyone's knowledge i want to say they are rated at .4 bar which is about 5.88 psi. PSI can be different though depending on how he adjusted them. Also my tq is a little low in this run because like I said it is off the waste gates but SAM told me that is easy to get that up higher with the boost controller. I do not know exactly why he didn't dyno the car with the boost controller set up. Personally I think he mainly put it on there just to verify tune and wasn't trying to see the biggest number he could get out of it. So with that said I am in luck. My buddy owns a 2007 Z06 vette with a built motor and supercharged. Tomorrow he rented a dyno for the whole day since he has some things he is doing to his car(don't know exactly)and requires it to be on the dyno to do it. Well he is going to let me strap my car down and do some pulls with it and see what it is doing with the boost controller set up. I will post those runs tomorrow.

As for the shops impression of the GTM kit, they were completely amazed with it and he told me that he has never seen a kit so well put together and that also fitted so nice before. Then he continued to say that he wouldn't have expected anything else though since it did come from GTM. To me that meant alot and it showed me that I purchased the right kit for my car. So anyone considering to go with someone else, I recommend you give GTM a call before you make any decisions.

Well with out further A-do here is what you been waiting for.
Frank

Nitex 08-30-2010 03:17 PM

^^ Good to see some progression. Ive been feeling guilty letting you all charge forward as test subjects. I do appreciate all those that have taken a chance, as the rest of us will no doubt benefit from all your hard work, money and research.

I'm excited to see what you make with the MBC! keep us posted, and congratz!

toner123 08-30-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 700775)
^^ Good to see some progression. Ive been feeling guilty letting you all charge forward as test subjects. I do appreciate all those that have taken a chance, as the rest of us will no doubt benefit from all your hard work, money and research.

I'm excited to see what you make with the MBC! keep us posted, and congratz!

Well I hope everyone intrested in FI can learn from us. I personally think the G37 community laid down foot work for us

Just to clerify i am using a electronic boost controller. HKS EVC-S

Thanks for your support
Frank

DIGItonium 08-30-2010 06:39 PM

That's a smooth progression and nice power band. How is it for everyday driving? So what's it like under 3k RPM since boost hasn't kicked in yet?

toner123 08-30-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 701018)
That's a smooth progression and nice power band. How is it for everyday driving? So what's it like under 3k RPM since boost hasn't kicked in yet?

Honestly the car feels the same as driving it before i put the twin turbo kit on untill i stomp on it. I can drive the car around and never be under boost untill I want to. As for everyday driving, I don't see why anyone couldn't. Like I said I really didn't notice any differance in my MPG. I am sure I would if I was driving around everywhere like speed racer but thats with any car. All in all the car feels exactly the same but with a nice increase in power and it will only come if you want it to.
Frank

BeachZTT 08-30-2010 08:41 PM

Congrats Frank! I was going to PM you last week and see how things were going... but I saw something shiney and got distracted. Glad to hear things are going your way. Can't wait to see it.

I think most people still think of lag when they think turbos. I tell people all the time that one of my favorite things about the TT is that when you aren't getting in it, it is a very pleasant normal drive. But when you do get on it, she shows her other side. :)

Happy boosting my friend! I think you will be very happy with the dyno session.

toner123 08-30-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 701171)
Congrats Frank! I was going to PM you last week and see how things were going... but I saw something shiney and got distracted. Glad to hear things are going your way. Can't wait to see it.

I think most people still think of lag when they think turbos. I tell people all the time that one of my favorite things about the TT is that when you aren't getting in it, it is a very pleasant normal drive. But when you do get on it, she shows her other side. :)

Happy boosting my friend! I think you will be very happy with the dyno session.

Hey bro yea i think i will be happy with the session tomorrow. Also let me know when you want to come check her out since we discussed that before. They changed my work schedule, now I work friday saturday, sunday, and monday and it really sucks lol but let me know i am right off of 64
Frank

DIGItonium 08-30-2010 11:38 PM

That's nice to know to be able to maintain stock feel with the power to go when needed. Also, what is it like near 50% throttle and steady through the gears? I'm definitely going to try to push for Spring '11 :D

:tup: with your install!

Mr&Mrs 08-31-2010 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 701367)
Also, what is it like near 50% throttle and steady through the gears?

^ Im also interested in this..have you noticed any overboost at partial throttle? Any chatter in the WG?

BeachZTT 08-31-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 701304)
Hey bro yea i think i will be happy with the session tomorrow. Also let me know when you want to come check her out since we discussed that before. They changed my work schedule, now I work friday saturday, sunday, and monday and it really sucks lol but let me know i am right off of 64
Frank


Bummer on the work schedule. I was hoping you could make the next Cars and Coffee Williamsburg on the 18th. If you haven't already, check out my album. http://www.the370z.com/members/beach...liamsburg.html Great turnout for the first event and lots of Z's! :ughdance:

I will catch up with you before too long and check her out. Can't wait to see her! I can feel the bug starting already... :yum:

Dembflyr 08-31-2010 08:04 AM

So was it just a tune issue or was there another problem?

Chris@FsP 08-31-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 701367)
I'm definitely going to try to push for Spring '11 :D

How about Fall '10 ;)

toner123 08-31-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 701367)
That's nice to know to be able to maintain stock feel with the power to go when needed. Also, what is it like near 50% throttle and steady through the gears? I'm definitely going to try to push for Spring '11 :D

:tup: with your install!

At 50% the car is already pulling and you just see that tach and your MPH climbing nicely. Going through the gears is not a issue at all while on it. Honestly I think they are going in easier then what they did before i did the kit. Also looking at my boost controller that I have set to 7.6 psi, the boost comes fast, it is like I am instantantly there and it holds. I have had no over boost warning or any issues of that sort. I also do not hear the waste gates chattering or anything. The BOV while driving the car normally are very quit but when you romp on it and let go they make a very nice sound and it is pretty loud. I hope this answered your question if not let me know

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 701600)
So was it just a tune issue or was there another problem?

The tune is good. other then the shop said it was a little conservative and that it wasn't pulling timing as much as it could. I talked to SAM about this and were going to wait and see what it does with the boost controller. I know he said he was going to work on the new tune for me but I am in no rush for it. The car is running great and the power feels awsome. So what leaves to the issue was me. I had a exhaust leak at the header and that was causing issues.

Thanks for all your intrest everyone if you have any more questions, keep them coming I would be glade to answer everyones and to help put peoples mind at ease if they want to get one but are a little scared since are cars are new.
Frank

toner123 08-31-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP (Post 701795)
How about Fall '10 ;)

Sell it Chris :happydance:

Chris@FsP 08-31-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 701811)
Sell it Chris :happydance:

:rofl2:


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