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s4life 07-17-2009 12:10 PM

Update? (<--- 1st post by the way):tup:

370z4Steve 07-17-2009 12:14 PM

when you say progress Josh..any ETA yet on when to expect some news?

xyz 07-17-2009 08:43 PM

subscribed . . .

CrownR426 07-17-2009 09:12 PM

That supercharger sound is annoying

RCZ 07-19-2009 04:09 PM

by annoying you mean awesome right?

Togo 07-19-2009 05:28 PM

I just hope the there isn't a ton of noise coming from the engine bay from the belts!

Like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwW3S61NO00

I find that just annoying..

dlmartin81 07-19-2009 08:19 PM

:icon14: eeeeekk!!

RCZ 07-19-2009 09:29 PM

hahaha I don't think it will sound like that...

Togo 07-19-2009 10:53 PM

Yeah I sure as hell would hope it didn't sound like that! I couldn't live with that noise on my car even if it was like the most reliable 1000+HP car with 50+MPG and only cost $50 bucks to install!



But if it got me laid...... i might reconsider :tup:

Crash 07-21-2009 04:32 AM

A 6PSI supercharger will be quite quiet. You shouldn't hear anything until you're high in the RPMs. Daily driving a twin-screw S/C is like driving a non-S/C'd car... You won't even know it's there until you step on the gas.

Togo 07-21-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 120224)
A 6PSI supercharger will be quite quiet. You shouldn't hear anything until you're high in the RPMs. Daily driving a twin-screw S/C is like driving a non-S/C'd car... You won't even know it's there until you step on the gas.

Good to know/hear. Thanks

GMZ 07-21-2009 04:07 PM

Hmm how about dual Rotrex units like this...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....engine-bay.jpg

ETA: That silver one sounds louder than my 350 did when I put the Vortech on, wtf is up with his bypass valve? Mine was a pretty harsh woosh, it fluttered when I put the vac/boost lines on wrong. I like the sound personally!

LiquidZ 07-21-2009 05:57 PM

I figured I should post this here:

As far as exhaust size is concerned, what size exhaust would be ideal for a centrifugal supercharger?

Togo 07-21-2009 06:26 PM

As i under stand it 2.5" should be fine. THe idea of a 3"+ on turbo apps is that it creates a low pressure area. The high pressure gases on the exhaust manifold side then rush over the turbines to the low pressure side (Highs to Lows always, basic physics) which moves more air faster over the turbine blades themselves (turbine blades are essential small lift producing devices) spooling it up faster.

I'm guessing 2.5 should be fine for a SC application but maybe a 2.75 would be better? Might have more to do with how much power you are trying to make and thus how much fuel you'll be burning. More fuel burned would equal more exhaust gas to flow, no?

NewYorkJon34 07-23-2009 11:23 PM

What kind of stats can we expect from the stillen s/c kit, any estimates on hp/tq, 0-60 times, etc...?

Zguy 07-25-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 120775)
Hmm how about dual Rotrex units like this...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....engine-bay.jpg

ETA: That silver one sounds louder than my 350 did when I put the Vortech on, wtf is up with his bypass valve? Mine was a pretty harsh woosh, it fluttered when I put the vac/boost lines on wrong. I like the sound personally!

Would that work on a 07-08 350Z?

One_Quick_Z 07-25-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 123354)
What kind of stats can we expect from the stillen s/c kit, any estimates on hp/tq, 0-60 times, etc...?

Nobody knows anything yet except the people working for Stillen

If you base it on the 350Z type of Supercharger then you would be seeing ruffly 80-100whp with complimenting bolt-ons Exhaust TP Headers

DAN

GMZ 07-25-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 125508)
Would that work on a 07-08 350Z?

Im not sure, I imagine that one of the tuners could make it work as I dont think the GT-R's block itself is that dissimilar from ours. But it would be well over $10K because a basic HKS Rotrex kit is almost $7K by itself. Thats just for parts, with labor and custom piping, Im going to guess and say that it would probably be a $20K venture. Twin superchargers would be pimp though!

LiquidZ 07-27-2009 10:12 AM

I didn't see this posted...

Supercharger for G37 coupe and more pictures from Japan - MyG37

nogoodname 07-27-2009 12:52 PM

looks awesome and fits under the hood...well, take out the foam and stuff

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...sta/P116-6.jpg

Red370 07-27-2009 01:22 PM

the company that makes that kit is called ORC, they had one for the G35, supposedly good for 456whp, w the VQ37, 500whp seems reasonable.

john370z 07-28-2009 08:47 PM

I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

GMZ 07-28-2009 08:51 PM

Im tellin you guys twin Rotrex's would be the tits!

Minicobra1 07-28-2009 11:08 PM

1 Attachment(s)
How bout this one :tup:

Josh@STILLEN 07-28-2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z (Post 129224)
I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

:)

NewYorkJon34 07-29-2009 02:00 AM

^soon as in sometime in august?

Buddy Revell 07-29-2009 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 129416)
I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

:)

Hmmm...so at least +75 hp and 75 ft.lbs. of torque, huh? Can't wait for more info. CARB legality and engine warranty is definitely a plus!

Josh@STILLEN 07-29-2009 10:10 AM

lol.. soon as in as soon as they let me open my big fat mouth. :)

370z4Steve 07-29-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 129409)
How bout this one :tup:

Wow where did that come from? Who makes it?

shabarivas 07-29-2009 10:59 AM

LOL tell them you wanna open it sooner!! CARB legal = you guys are amazing :)

NewYorkJon34 07-29-2009 01:13 PM

At least stillen is actually making a supercharger for the 370z, but any info would be nice, at least tell us what type of supercharger it is?

terrycs 07-30-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 129229)
Im tellin you guys twin Rotrex's would be the tits!

How about ONE for now?;)

Found this in another thread:

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/c...ormance/SC.jpg

shabarivas 07-30-2009 03:56 PM

drrooollinnngggg

LiquidZ 07-30-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrycs (Post 131178)
How about ONE for now?;)

Found this in another thread:

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/c...ormance/SC.jpg

So what's this about? :happydance:

nogoodname 07-30-2009 07:43 PM

awesome stuff, but do not lean on it

armensti 07-31-2009 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z (Post 129224)
I have a concern and would love to get some of your opinions.... GTM and Stillen offer FI kits for the 350 that offer "mild" gains in the namesake of being "safe" GTM, for $8,000 offers 50 hp and 60 ft lbs of torque. I think Stillen stage one is about the same. Am I the only one that thinks this is REALLY steep for those gains.

In my opinion if Stillen is to come out with a FI Supercharger kit, the "safe" gains would have to be at least 75 whp and over 75 ft lbs of torque. And the price should be under $7500 all done....everything needed for a proper install and tune. I mean worst case scenario! Guys at Stillen can you comment on this logic? Anything with less gains or greater price would cause me any MANY others I know to be happy with our cars power or wait and buy our next car with more power from the factory. Maybe this is just a rant....thoughts???

your right but the reason why their so expensive is because you get a CARB
supercharger and the warranty, thats about it. i dont find it reasonable to pay 7k for 75 hp and 75 trq

if you think about it your spending 7000 dollars so shouldnt you get at least 150-200 hp?

tt kits should go for 5-6k (if it gives you 300-350hp) but superchargers should go for 3-4k (if it gives you 200-250hp) that would be a reasonable price for me.

another thing is it would be the first supercharger out so there is no doubt that its going to cost an arm and a leg.

Lug 07-31-2009 01:42 PM

In both super and turbo charger kits, the price is not directly related to power produced. i.e. it doesn't cost double to double the gained HP. The money to get in at a lower "safe" hp is almost as much as going hi order because much of the cost is the same. For example, simply changing pully size gets big HP gains on a supercharger so to relate the price to the gains doesn't make sense from the component side of the equation.

Buddy Revell 08-06-2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 129416)
I can't comment.. but I can say that I think you'll be happy..

But keep in mind.. we sold ALMOST NO stage 1 supercharger kits. That was a non-intercooled kit, and was purely for price. We didn't even offer them for later flavors of the VQ35.

We'll have more details soon.. and the goal is all of the additional benefits.. CARB approval.. engine warranty.. bolt-on reliability.. all the good stuff.

:)

Are you allowed to post some pics of the system? That would be great.:tup:

john370z 08-12-2009 09:59 AM

If you look at many of the big product hits in the past few years (ie, iphone, iphone 3g, 2010 camaro, M3, xbox 360, PS2, 370z, etc) they all had something in common. The customer new more or less what it did, how much it was going to cost, and when it was going to be purchasable. I don't mean to be a whiner but I would love a roots style supercharger but if I don't know what kind of output Stillen or others will make, how much it will cost, and most importantly when it will be available, I, and a VERY many others will find another place in this tough economy to put their thousands of dollars. I am not asking Stillen and others to "let the cat out of the bag", but I think it would be reasonable and still enticing to give a HP and TQ range that is achievable, rough date of release, and rough price. And of course disclose this with the chance that variables can cause these numbers to change. For what it is worth for those reading this, if you are thinking I might me full of crap. I own three successful businesses and am considered by many to be a marketing expert. I would love to hear from you at Stillen. Thanks
John

modme 08-12-2009 11:20 AM

^ I totally agree with the previous post. If you have an excellent product prepared, let us know the numbers and specs. That way we can start saving up money for it.


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