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Minicobra1 04-13-2009 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 42909)
Oh yea...We're in development with our forced induction kit and it's coming along very nicely. Almost all of the hard parts are mounted.

I have no idea on pricing or an ETA though.

Kyle,

Any new updates on the supercharger??? Also, you need to get over to this thread:
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...-berk-hfc.html
Need some input about your HFC's

Kyle@STILLEN 04-14-2009 11:57 AM

No more info on the STILLEN forced induction solution yet my friend! It will take a few more months before we're ready to release any serious information.

Thanks for the heads up on the other thread, I'll head over there now.

apexpred. 04-21-2009 02:09 AM

Could you get the extra flow to take advantage of the larger displacement super charger by doing head work and getting a set of cams.

Also I haven't seen any one talk about engine management yet at all. I think being able to control the cam system will make alot of of power and torque on supercharged and turbo charged motors.

shabarivas 04-21-2009 01:03 PM

Moar info stillen... you are killing me :( hahahah

tvfreakazoid 04-21-2009 08:19 PM

What is DTB?
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Originally Posted by Slidefox (Post 28389)
It's a little more difficult to S/C the 370Z since it is DTB. There was word of a twin centrifigual S/C setup from Vortech for the HR motor, but I haven't seen anything yet. I'm still trying to figure out how Stillen would make a roots style work with the DTBs. Maybe they can chime in. It's all going to come down to how you route the piping. If you can get the brackets to work on the motor; then you should be able to get the piping routed.

<--- Prefers TT over S/C


wstar 04-21-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 60579)
What is DTB?

Dual Throttle Bodies. Our car has two complete assemblies of throttle body, throttle plate, intake tube, mass air sensor, airbox/filter, one on each side of the engine.

K20A2_S 04-28-2009 10:13 PM

I haven't looked under the hood of the 370 recently, maybe then can fit dual M62's??.....lol....

Solus 05-05-2009 06:50 AM

I just want to say that I think the hood required for the fitment of the bigger super would look sick on the 370 and would probably buy it even if I didn't need it for anything.

Skorch 05-05-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 67666)
I just want to say that I think the hood required for the fitment of the bigger super would look sick on the 370 and would probably buy it even if I didn't need it for anything.

Wouldn't that be considered somewhat rice by some standards?

shabarivas 05-05-2009 01:51 PM

Somewhat? I love the 370 lines... would not touch the body other than accents / tint and removing those hideous door handles

tvfreakazoid 05-06-2009 02:39 PM

I do like the door handles, but the problem is, why do they stick out so far. i wonder if there is going to be a kit so that the door handle will be flushed with the door. But it is a little to bulky and big.
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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 67824)
Somewhat? I love the 370 lines... would not touch the body other than accents / tint and removing those hideous door handles


370Ztune 05-06-2009 03:01 PM

I cannot say for sure, but based on our past experiences with Power Enterprise, I would imagine that eventually they will build a forced induction kit for the Z34...possibly a supercharger.

Power Enterprise recently built a twin supercharger kit to work in unison with the stock twin turbo setup for the R35 GTR.

Check it out:

Power Enterprise Kit

Brazilbro 05-06-2009 10:56 PM

wow thats freaking insaine!!!! A guy tryed twin charging an evo a few years ago but could never get it tuned right blew 2 motors but did make 700 whp i believe

Solus 05-07-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skorch (Post 67773)
Wouldn't that be considered somewhat rice by some standards?

most likely.. however.. i really don't give a rats a$$ what people think lol.. I put stuff on the way I like it. If I like the look of a hood that has absolutely no functional purpose for my setup I have no qualms throwing it on there.

Skorch 05-08-2009 12:58 PM

Heh, to each his own I guess.

LiquidZ 05-09-2009 03:55 PM

I am actually leaning towards a supercharger to be honest.

The Z has oil temp issues already, and I am not sure if I feel comfortable routing already hot engine oil through a turbine. It just doesn't sit well with me.

Also, I feel a supercharger would be a little more predictable on the track than say a twin turbo. I'm not saying that I would get any FI just to be faster on the track, but if I wanted a compromise between a street car and a track car, a supercharger just seems more suited to me.

Not to mention, I love the simplicity of superchargers.

Brazilbro 05-09-2009 08:52 PM

i Cant believe its taking so long for a FI system to come out.. turbo or charger.. this is killing me..

wstar 05-09-2009 11:14 PM

There's a pretty significant amount of development and testing that goes into making a well-put-together FI kit for sale on the general market. I'm not surprised that we don't have one yet, given how new the 370Z is still. Probably by July or August or so, we'll have some options becoming available.

john370z 05-10-2009 02:49 PM

Anyone know how much power is safe to push through the 7sp AT?

wstar 05-10-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by john370z (Post 70757)
Anyone know how much power is safe to push through the 7sp AT?

I've heard here it's the same auto they put in some of their truck models, so that sounds good in terms of torque-handling. Mine seems to deal with simple bolt-on upgrades fine, but we may well run into 7AT limits with any kind of FI.

Frick@DDM 05-10-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by john370z (Post 70757)
Anyone know how much power is safe to push through the 7sp AT?

I guess we will have to wait and find out.

With the older G's and Z's, you can achieve a little more than 500+ from what I have seen. With valve body and torque converter upgrades.

So it will be interesting to see what they can handle.

shumby 05-10-2009 06:20 PM

there is a G37 5AT that has tt'd and is stock and has 483 Whp and the tranny is doing fine.

t-ray 05-11-2009 12:35 PM

The prior 5ats were finicky. Some guys could hold +100hp/tq of boost for a couple years, and other guys would need valvebody work in a matter of weeks.

Give the 7at some time.

chad520320 05-11-2009 01:02 PM

I wish Kenne Bell would do their twin screws for something non-American... Maybe a 370...
That would own all other SC's, plus they're smaller than a typical roots.

soaka1 05-11-2009 03:22 PM

i ran i stock 370 today. and all i have in the stillen gen3. and i pulled cars... alot of them.

soaka1 05-11-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by john370z (Post 70757)
Anyone know how much power is safe to push through the 7sp AT?


i wanna say about 450. but no more then 500.

Crash 05-11-2009 07:07 PM

I want to see them make a mammoth blower for the 370... You'll gain 80HP just from efficiency alone.

Lug 05-12-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by t-ray (Post 71253)
The prior 5ats were finicky. Some guys could hold +100hp/tq of boost for a couple years, and other guys would need valvebody work in a matter of weeks.

Give the 7at some time.

Another problem was the shift speed on the old 5AT was so slow that the engine would overrev during the shift and hit the rev limiter on almost any FI application on the transmission (see some threads on it at my350z). You had to get a valve body upgrade (at about 1000 bucks) and reflash the rev limit higher to even start using that tranny and it was still weak. The new 7AT seems to be much better with faster shift speeds but it's kind of a wait and see. This tranny holds 390 hp on the FX45 w/o any problems and I assume it's gonna be somewhat over engineered.

wstar 05-12-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 71826)
Another problem was the shift speed on the old 5AT was so slow that the engine would overrev during the shift and hit the rev limiter on almost any FI application on the transmission (see some threads on it at my350z). You had to get a valve body upgrade (at about 1000 bucks) and reflash the rev limit higher to even start using that tranny and it was still weak. The new 7AT seems to be much better with faster shift speeds but it's kind of a wait and see. This tranny holds 390 hp on the FX45 w/o any problems and I assume it's gonna be somewhat over engineered.

The rev limit thing may well be an issue with FI with our 7AT too. The overrev is tiny and barely noticeable, mostly on 1-2, but you can tell it's on the verge of not reacting quickly enough. Right now the main limitation is my reaction time though. You have to learn to click a little bit before you want the shift to occur, so you don't bump the redline before the 7AT even starts the actual shift. I'm getting better at it every day, but clicking at exactly the right moment on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts during WOT accel is still a little challenging.

LiquidZ 05-13-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 71902)
The rev limit thing may well be an issue with FI with our 7AT too. The overrev is tiny and barely noticeable, mostly on 1-2, but you can tell it's on the verge of not reacting quickly enough. Right now the main limitation is my reaction time though. You have to learn to click a little bit before you want the shift to occur, so you don't bump the redline before the 7AT even starts the actual shift. I'm getting better at it every day, but clicking at exactly the right moment on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts during WOT accel is still a little challenging.

A little off topic, but I wish I could have driven a 7AT. Nissan seems to have done an excellent job with it and it sounds like a blast to drive.

Diversion 05-13-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 72373)
A little off topic, but I wish I could have driven a 7AT. Nissan seems to have done an excellent job with it and it sounds like a blast to drive.

First 370 I drove was 7AT... they are fun.. but I just can't get over the disconnected feel... but it was a breeze to drive fast without worrying about poor shifts!

Phimosis 05-16-2009 02:00 PM

I just went to tirerack.com, the major sponsor of "One Lap of America" and they have the "final results" of the 2009 One Lap, dated May 9, 2009. No where did I see a 370z listed.

Did Stillen pull out? Could they not get the car ready in time? Did it blow up and DNF? Am I looking at results for a difference race than what I thought they were entering?

Need more go faster now!

Josh@STILLEN 05-16-2009 05:30 PM

That press release was issued by the builder of the car, who we had never spoken to.. they added us as a supercharger.. I don't know why. :)

It wasn't STILLEN who was entering..

Phimosis 05-17-2009 02:28 PM

Oh wow. Lol. That seems pretty shady. Not on Stillen's part... but it still is bad that your name got attached to a failed project.

Since you've told us that Stillen is planning on retaining the stock hood for their upcoming 370z supercharger project, can we assume that positive displacement supercharging is out? The underhood space is so small that the stock intake manifold is within millimeters of the hood.

I think a ATI Procharger C2 would look sweet in there:
http://www.procharger.com/images/350Z.underhood.gif

Think you could fit something like that with a custom intake manifold that accomodates both stock throttle bodies on the left side of the manifold? You could go from the supercharger to intercooler to throttle bodies as a single pipe, all on the left side, then split it with a Y as it gets to the throttle bodies.

I'm just dying to know what you guys are up to......

-Phim

Minicobra1 05-17-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 74168)

I'm just dying to know what you guys are up to......

-Phim

Yeah, throw us a bone here :tup:

wstar 05-17-2009 02:54 PM

I think we've already gotten all the bones we're gonna get until they're later in the development process.

Josh@STILLEN 05-17-2009 03:54 PM

Sorry.. no details yet.. but it's coming..

Skorch 05-17-2009 11:52 PM

Any hints on the time frame of when the details/official news may be coming? :D

Josh@STILLEN 05-18-2009 12:01 AM

You'll know the day I get the word.. :)

bobby8621 05-18-2009 11:45 AM

what dia. exhaust setup do i need for a supercharger? and would it be better to have high flow cats or catless?


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