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370Zsteve 04-09-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 489293)
You would be surprised what shows up on tracks. Honestly, the shape juan's car is in would be allowed on most tracks!!! It's scary!!!

By the way the race 370z is not sharif's and is worked on by the owner of the car but just in their shop. I know because I helped him install his sway bars while my coilovers were being installed.

I've logged tons of track miles for decades. Never saw a car like that :shakes head: and never want to!

bullitt5897 04-09-2010 08:06 PM

I have seen quite a few but they were mainly cars built on a budget and on redneck ingenuity :tup:

LateralG'z 04-09-2010 08:13 PM

I feel so bad for this guy. This is sad, in this economy reputation can really be a deal sealer or breaker. It looks so bad from the pics. GTM needs to be the third party or mediator if this is what they received from forged. This is enough bad publicity that I would never trust them with my car, and until there is some real defense Juan has a real case and should definitely start to pursue some resurrection legally.

370Zsteve 04-09-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 489336)
I have seen quite a few but they were mainly cars built on a budget and on redneck ingenuity :tup:

lol I forgot you were in GA :tup:

I swear up here you couldn't get into a demo derby without a full inspection

whiddles 04-09-2010 08:30 PM

i would not let them touch a kia after this. DAMN

DannyGT 04-09-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow (Post 489304)
Thanks...I think? ;) Seriously, though, I am not trying to come off on this forum as an a-hole. I have just been in this arena for far too long to sit back and watch those who haven't get snowed by vendors and their hype. I was once in their position and I got burned a few times. If it means taking some lumps by the fanbois in the process, so be it. I'm thick-skinned and know that eventually they will be thankful for the information I provide.

And I can categorically say that those pictures are the real deal and that was FP's work. Even Sharif will be admitting to this when he posts, I'm sure. No way he would/could deny it.

I kidd I kidd ofcoarse. Its clear that you have experience, and I just wanted to point out that its evident in your posts. Even if some may hate or think your being to fanboy-ish, you have stayed true to the nature of your posts and I just like brute honesty.

frost 04-09-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whiddles (Post 489391)
i would not let them touch a kia after this. DAMN

Well, let's not go crazy. I'm sure anything would be an improvement to that.

Sharif@Forged 04-09-2010 08:32 PM


This will likely be my only post on this matter.

Forged Performance has been in business for over 5 years, and we literally work on about 400 cars each year and have thousands of satisfied customers. We are here 6 days a week working and managing 30-40 project cars at a time with the 11 employees on the payroll. We've performed everything from simple bolt on's, to full race car prep and custom fabrication. Our consistent track record is well noted on various forums we have always been one of the leading Nissan tuning shops on the country. I've personally tuned several hundreds of Nissan's with a pattern of safety and reliability.

That said, our shop is no different from many others in that we aren't perfect, and we do make mistakes. The people that worked on this customer's car were terminated long ago, and no longer work here. In fact, we haven't worked on this car for well over a year. Clearly, the pictures posted are not representative of the type of work we perform on a daily basis, and there is no excuse for it.

Now lets talk about the false and misleading claims that the owner of the car has posted:

1) On the original installation, the engine did not BLOW-UP on the dyno from tuning. During the initial baseline tuning process I made less than 10 dyno pulls on the car, and most of them were not even to redline. At this point, everything appeared normal. However, after an initial brief road test a light ticking noise was heard. This ticking noise was later determined to be caused by 5 rods with the smallest of bends to them. If you can tell me how rods become laterally wavy from some light tuning, I would love to hear it.

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1578973/cb4.jpg

Engine components show zero signs of detonation, lean condition, heat, or other issues that could be attributed to improper tuning:

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1578972/1f5.jpg
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1578974/cd3.jpg
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1578975/29d.jpg
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1578977/cc7.jpg

2) Once it was determined that the rods were bad, the customer had the choice of having us build him a new OEM block, or our built S1 Shortblock. He was not forced to switch to a built block. He chose our S1 Shortblock and paid for parts ONLY. All of the thousands of dollars of labor were covered by Forged Performance. All this customer had to give us was some time to complete the project.

3) The customer couldn't wait for his car to be finished, so instead he came into our shop and illegally removed the car from our lot without paying his $12,000 outstanding balance. I called 911 and the police arrived while I was on the phone with the customer begging him to bring the car back. I agreed not to press charges.

4) The damage to his vehicle while in our custody is unquestionably our responsibility and the customer was informed of this damage immediately. The tail light and bumper needed to be replaced and repainted. It always has been, and we paid for the repairs without any question. We never once suggested junkyard parts.

I am still at a loss as to why this person waited for over a year to make this thread. When the customer took possession of his vehicle from GTM, he drove it to my shop and we had a good conversation about the whole situation. At that point, we shook hands and looked eye to eye and agreed that I would take care of a portion of the GTM bill, and cut him a check for the damages. If there were still some hard feelings, I didn't sense that.

In fact, about 4 months ago, the customer called and spoke to Scott Siegel one of our tuners here, asking how much it would cost for a methanol kit and retune of his FCON.

So rather than speculate on the purpose of this thread, I will close by saying that I've spent the better part of a half decade building some of the best Nissan's in the country and building this business from the ground up. I started with myself and one employee, and we've now grown to 11 employees. Our business has quadrupled over the years and it's because we offer a lot to our customers. As we've gotten bigger, we've also become a bigger target and many people are just waiting to pounce if they ever see a horror story about our shop.

We aren't perfect obviously, and there have been plenty of bumps, poor hires, and mistakes made along the way. If you think there is another shop in the country that is perfect, you should think again. But under no circumstances have I ever turned my back on a problem, or a customer, when an issue presents itself. I've spent thousands of MY own dollars fixing issues that weren't even our fault! This business may seem like it's just fun and in many ways it is. But it's also the sole source of income for 11 households, and puts food on tables, pays mortgages and puts kids through school. So we will defend our business vigorously, while striving to get better each day at what we do.

I'm sorry I won't be able to go back and forth on this thread. I have advised my sales guys to stay out as well since they are not involved in this matter. I am still at the shop working and tuning, and will probably be here until midnight, or until the cops kick us out for making too much noise on the dyno.

vipor 04-09-2010 08:33 PM

Thanks for the thorough reply Sharif! :tiphat:

370Zsteve 04-09-2010 08:36 PM

^^^ good enough for me, Sharif! I knew I smelled fish!

In before the lock.

whiddles 04-09-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 489395)
Well, let's not go crazy. I'm sure anything would be an improvement to that.

Haha TRUE

Caravanshaka 04-09-2010 08:40 PM

IBTL

My question would be, how did that car leave the shop in that condition? Sure, the employees have been terminated, but that should have been patched up long before the car left.

vipor 04-09-2010 08:41 PM

My understanding from his reply was that the customer requested to take the car from the shop, even "stole" it initially before talking to them.

Prosport Gauges 04-09-2010 08:41 PM

I Only have one Question! at 1,500 miles, why didnt this motor get more break in time?

370Zsteve 04-09-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan_west06 (Post 489419)
I Only have one Question! at 1,500 miles, why didnt this motor get more break in time?

Sounds like the OP was in a big hurry to be the first TT


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