so should i buy a system that is still not "fixed" as you say or should a person buy a kit that is functional and as advertised? seems like the second option would be the way to go if you were spending hard earned money

Tom, Stillen didnt lie, they extensively tested their kit in every situation they could and on several cars. Chances are though that when they did the testing they used normal osiris software with normal tunes, which they assumed would be no different when they used the other software/tune. It seems there's a glitch thats causing headaches. If the kit/tune works perfect on custom tuned cars then it can be absolutely fixed. Its really unfair to expect that they could predict that problem and test for it before the fact.

^^^ no that is exactly what they should be able to expect. seems the other kit out there can supply canned tunes without 7+ revisions to the tune

maybe its not the tune/uprev but perhaps the hardware Stillen uses??

They really didnt do extensive testing since they didnt test their tuning solutiuon according to u. They would of had a better idea of the problems if they used the hardware (two different pullys) and the software from the kit they are selling.

Your credibility suffers when you try to sell GTM products every single post you type. You do it so much that I now associate you with GTM, their company and their products. I wonder if that's what Sam wants..

Also, as far as I know, there are no results yet other than your "6 psi" pulley and all the other results that people don't want to post until everything is as it should be. There's a whole other thread about the results, why don't we see any dyno graphs posted on there?

I'm making a lot of logical assumptions based on what we know. Like Buzz's post and everyone else who has been dealing with the issue. It seems to be that they didnt expect there to be a glitch with the tuning software considering they had been using the software on every car they tested successfully.

Anyway, not here to defend Stillen. I'm a customer, the results will speak eventually even their reps themselves won't. I don't blame them for not posting with how easily everything can be twisted to mean something else.

That's pretty funny of you to say since most people on here associate you with Stillen.

Owned!

Dyno numbers: I asked about a that and Rich did not offer up anything for me. I tried to ask a lot of questions in the couple hours we had, but we could have talked for hours on the particulars of this mess. Meanwhile his cellphone was ringing off the hook. I was excited to see my car detailed to the Nines, jumped in like it was the Batmobile just to beat the Austin traffic, cape and all! So, I missed that one. I will ask them again for something solid. I understand that really means a lot. Sorry to let folks down on that. Rich is the salesguy. Have to see if Jared can provide me something.

Also, I agree with RCZ with this Issue. It seems to be that they didnt expect there to be a glitch with the tuning software considering they had been using the software on every car they tested successfully.
This was a surprise and apparently it was a big eye opener.
I'm a Nuclear Engineer myself and I could not even figure it out. I had my assumptions, but not the tools they did to get "at" the problem. Who would have expected an error from the Factory itself on, oh, say line 1,347 of 10,000 lines of code when there should have been a Zero there was a One. As complex as these cars are nowadays and the computer trying to control EVERYTHING, I'm amazed Uprev even found it. It took all 3 of them to watch the car, dyno, output reports (Computer) all at once to catch it.
My assumption is WE are going to be the last of the great combustion engines with enhanced power like this. The Government is tightning down every year. Heck, I'm sure in a few years some Yahoo will outlaw the combustion engine just because its screwing up his flowers in the Garden, turn it into Law and we are all driving electric, or Hydrogen Electric. The cars will then be more complex and no room in the ECU to work a Supercharger or the engine compartment. Well, the JUKE was in the showroom today, a bold statement for cramming a lot of power into a small space. Has a 1.6 Liter engine, I think, with a Turbo attached!

Hey Buzz, good contributions. Thanks for keeping us up to date!

If anything this thread is not looking good for stillen on a consumers stand point. Im really in need of a power adder and have the money to buy one. I understand that this is a new car design but geez. I want the vortech charger myself but man! If something is not confirmed soon im just gonna shoot my Z with a shot of nitrous for the old f#!:kers w the vettes that think they still have it going on.(Midlife crises) LOL!! Get it massed produced and running good and u got another sell!!!!

Yeah I finally have enough spare funds to afford FI for my Z. Its that or move on to something more powerfull. I just dont know what that is, and im not sure i can regrow my mullet. Half japy with a mullet is weird anyways :ugh2:

AHhhh so you were looking at the ford mustang GT. NOOOOOOOO don't do it. lol


Seriously it is kindof tempting ain't it? But go FI you will love it. Plus you will not have to marrie your sister.;)

If only they had CARB cert done (not that Stillen has either).. Maybe by spring bonus they will be.