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Randomizer23 10-07-2020 12:06 PM

Any Supporting Mods I am missing for my Turbo build?
 
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I am looking to make 800whp with these supporting mods (does not include built motor and turbo kit). Those prices are just a rough estimate at this point in time. Any changes/recommendations that I should do? Also I will be going with the Boosted Performance kit.

JLarson 10-07-2020 01:35 PM

You could consider ported upper and lower manifolds. That should help in your journey to 800.

Rusty 10-07-2020 01:45 PM

Better and a 1 to the front of the price for the gauges. Good gauges will run you about $150 and up.

Randomizer23 10-07-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3964009)
Better and a 1 to the front of the price for the gauges. Good gauges will run you about $150 and up.

Did not know that thank you those were just estimates without actually checking the price of gauges haha.

Randomizer23 10-07-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3964005)
You could consider ported upper and lower manifolds. That should help in your journey to 800.

Yea I was thinking abt this and wondering how much it will actually help.

JLarson 10-07-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964015)
Yea I was thinking abt this and wondering how much it will actually help.

Soho showed a 38 whp increase at peak with just the ported lower when running 11.5 psi and a tt kit, so there is some benefit.

Randomizer23 10-07-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3964016)
Soho showed a 38 whp increase at peak with just the ported lower when running 11.5 psi and a tt kit, so there is some benefit.

Wow thats pretty good imo

Spooler 10-07-2020 03:49 PM

Don't port the upper. Leave it alone. You need all the plastic you can get to hold it together. LOL

JLarson 10-07-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964030)
Don't port the upper. Leave it alone. You need all the plastic you can get to hold it together. LOL

Lol with my much lower levels of boost I hadn't thought about that.

Boosted Performance 10-08-2020 12:16 AM

Some results from a G35 DE:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/pdjn38LA1a5GkQCLA

883WHP and 754ft/tq on E50 fuel.


If the DE's can do it, the VHR can do it EASILY. This is with a 68mm turbo.

2011 Nismo#91 10-08-2020 06:36 AM

Any changes to your exhaust needed?
Motor Mounts, transmission mounts?
Did you give the Wavetech LSD a look?

Some maintenance items you might want to consider.
Oil Gallery Gasket replacement? You have an 09 right?
Timing chain kit?

JARblue 10-08-2020 08:24 AM

Driver mod?

Ghostvette 10-08-2020 08:31 AM

Silly question time, why a GPS speedometer? That seems like an expensive thing that doesn't do a lot for the car. :icon14:


You might want to consider a triple disk carbon clutch & pressure plate like Spooler's. TBH, I'm not familiar with a 'stage 4' clutch..... who makes it, etc.

You did forget one important thing.... a 'whoops, my engine popped' fund....:stirthepot:

Spooler 10-08-2020 08:40 AM

Pic out what you want to use.

Fast Intentions Stage 2.5 TT kit
Fast Intentions Crash bar
Fast Intentions 3" exhaust with Carbon Fiber mufflers
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch with external Nissan CSC
2-Walboro 450
CJ Motorsports duel fuel pump setup
IDA1700cc injectors
IDF-750 Fuel filter
MA-Motorsports custom built fuel return system for E85
JWT C2 exhaust cams with new water pump, Timing chains, Guides and tensioners
Upgraded front cover Oil galley gaskets/fasteners
Suckerpunch oil pump
MA-Motorsports ATI fluid damper (already on the car)
34 row FI oil cooler (already on the car)
Radium Catch Cans
Mazworx built Long Block
Carrillo Pro Rods
CP Pistons 10:1
Darton MID sleeves
Ported heads with 1mm larger valves
Iconel Exhaust valves
L19 head studs
OS Giken 1.5 LSD (already on the car)
Z1 Motorsports Poly Diff bushings (already on the car)
MA-Motorsports Diff cooler
Finite Element Design Carbon Fiber 3" cooling ducts
Stillen Front Brake cooling duct kit
Z1 2-piece rotors front and rear (already on the car)
Carbotech XP8 pads front/rear (already on the car)
E85 content gauge, etc.
Eboost2 boost controller/gauge
Galeforce custom single gauge pillar
Ecuteck tuning with Flexfuel
DSS Pro Level Axles
Aragosta Coilovers 12k/10k Swift springs upgrade
Corner Balanced by MA-Motorsports
SSR MS3 wheels
Front 19x10 +29
Rear 19x11.5 +30
Toyo R888r
Front 285/35/19
Rear 325/30/19
Race Rear wheels and Tires
Weld Wheels 17x10.5 6.5in. backspacing High Hat
MT Street R radials 305/45/17
SPL FUCA’s
SPL Midlinks
SPL Swaybar endlinks
SPL Rear Camber arms
SPL lockout kit for Camber and Toe for the Rear
Factory Recaro seats from V2 370z Nismo
Tracspec Vents for the hood.
NISMO Solid rear Subframe bushings
Modified Bellworks diff brace
CJ- Motorsports solid engine mounts.
Hotchkis Front Sway bar.
CSF Triple Pass Radiator

Spooler 10-08-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3964093)
Some results from a G35 DE:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/pdjn38LA1a5GkQCLA

883WHP and 754ft/tq on E50 fuel.


If the DE's can do it, the VHR can do it EASILY. This is with a 68mm turbo.

Making HP is the easy part. Getting the engine to stay together is a whole new ballgame.

Ghostvette 10-08-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964141)
Pic out what you want to use.

Fast Intentions Stage 2.5 TT kit
Fast Intentions Crash bar
Fast Intentions 3" exhaust with Carbon Fiber mufflers
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch with external Nissan CSC
2-Walboro 450
CJ Motorsports duel fuel pump setup
IDA1700cc injectors
IDF-750 Fuel filter
MA-Motorsports custom built fuel return system for E85
JWT C2 exhaust cams with new water pump, Timing chains, Guides and tensioners
Upgraded front cover Oil galley gaskets/fasteners
Suckerpunch oil pump
MA-Motorsports ATI fluid damper (already on the car)
34 row FI oil cooler (already on the car)
Radium Catch Cans
Mazworx built Long Block
Carrillo Pro Rods
CP Pistons 10:1
Darton MID sleeves
Ported heads with 1mm larger valves
Iconel Exhaust valves
L19 head studs
OS Giken 1.5 LSD (already on the car)
Z1 Motorsports Poly Diff bushings (already on the car)
MA-Motorsports Diff cooler
Finite Element Design Carbon Fiber 3" cooling ducts
Stillen Front Brake cooling duct kit
Z1 2-piece rotors front and rear (already on the car)
Carbotech XP8 pads front/rear (already on the car)
E85 content gauge, etc.
Eboost2 boost controller/gauge
Galeforce custom single gauge pillar
Ecuteck tuning with Flexfuel
DSS Pro Level Axles
Aragosta Coilovers 12k/10k Swift springs upgrade
Corner Balanced by MA-Motorsports
SSR MS3 wheels
Front 19x10 +29
Rear 19x11.5 +30
Toyo R888r
Front 285/35/19
Rear 325/30/19
Race Rear wheels and Tires
Weld Wheels 17x10.5 6.5in. backspacing High Hat
MT Street R radials 305/45/17
SPL FUCA’s
SPL Midlinks
SPL Swaybar endlinks
SPL Rear Camber arms
SPL lockout kit for Camber and Toe for the Rear
Factory Recaro seats from V2 370z Nismo
Tracspec Vents for the hood.
NISMO Solid rear Subframe bushings
Modified Bellworks diff brace
CJ- Motorsports solid engine mounts.
Hotchkis Front Sway bar.
CSF Triple Pass Radiator

Personally, if I was building a high horsepower/high torque Z, I'd just take this list and a bag full of money to MA Motorsports, along with my car and say "Call me when it's done" Oh, and be prepared to wait at least a year...:tiphat:

Elmo370z 10-08-2020 10:07 AM

Figuring out how to keep the heads from blowing off

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3964139)
Silly question time, why a GPS speedometer? That seems like an expensive thing that doesn't do a lot for the car. :icon14:


You might want to consider a triple disk carbon clutch & pressure plate like Spooler's. TBH, I'm not familiar with a 'stage 4' clutch..... who makes it, etc.

You did forget one important thing.... a 'whoops, my engine popped' fund....:stirthepot:

Its the stage 4 clutch from z speed. I am getting a gps speedo for the hell of it

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964141)
Pic out what you want to use.

Fast Intentions Stage 2.5 TT kit
Fast Intentions Crash bar
Fast Intentions 3" exhaust with Carbon Fiber mufflers
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch with external Nissan CSC
2-Walboro 450
CJ Motorsports duel fuel pump setup
IDA1700cc injectors
IDF-750 Fuel filter
MA-Motorsports custom built fuel return system for E85
JWT C2 exhaust cams with new water pump, Timing chains, Guides and tensioners
Upgraded front cover Oil galley gaskets/fasteners
Suckerpunch oil pump
MA-Motorsports ATI fluid damper (already on the car)
34 row FI oil cooler (already on the car)
Radium Catch Cans
Mazworx built Long Block
Carrillo Pro Rods
CP Pistons 10:1
Darton MID sleeves
Ported heads with 1mm larger valves
Iconel Exhaust valves
L19 head studs
OS Giken 1.5 LSD (already on the car)
Z1 Motorsports Poly Diff bushings (already on the car)
MA-Motorsports Diff cooler
Finite Element Design Carbon Fiber 3" cooling ducts
Stillen Front Brake cooling duct kit
Z1 2-piece rotors front and rear (already on the car)
Carbotech XP8 pads front/rear (already on the car)
E85 content gauge, etc.
Eboost2 boost controller/gauge
Galeforce custom single gauge pillar
Ecuteck tuning with Flexfuel
DSS Pro Level Axles
Aragosta Coilovers 12k/10k Swift springs upgrade
Corner Balanced by MA-Motorsports
SSR MS3 wheels
Front 19x10 +29
Rear 19x11.5 +30
Toyo R888r
Front 285/35/19
Rear 325/30/19
Race Rear wheels and Tires
Weld Wheels 17x10.5 6.5in. backspacing High Hat
MT Street R radials 305/45/17
SPL FUCA’s
SPL Midlinks
SPL Swaybar endlinks
SPL Rear Camber arms
SPL lockout kit for Camber and Toe for the Rear
Factory Recaro seats from V2 370z Nismo
Tracspec Vents for the hood.
NISMO Solid rear Subframe bushings
Modified Bellworks diff brace
CJ- Motorsports solid engine mounts.
Hotchkis Front Sway bar.
CSF Triple Pass Radiator

Gonna steal that boost controller and that diff. Is the motordyne exhaust too restrictive u think?

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3964115)
Any changes to your exhaust needed?
Motor Mounts, transmission mounts?
Did you give the Wavetech LSD a look?

Some maintenance items you might want to consider.
Oil Gallery Gasket replacement? You have an 09 right?
Timing chain kit?

1. Not sure about my exhaust. I will be getting the motodyne one. Im pretty sure the bp kit can mount to the motordyne exhaust.
2. Would these do for motor mounts? https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...ts-p-5587.html
3. I have looked at the Wavetech LSD but I think I will choose the OS Giken 1.5 way LSD
4. I do have an 09 and have not looked into the Oil gallery Gasket replacement yet. Not sure abt a timing kit at this time. Still in the early stages of planning but I will look into these things.

Spooler 10-08-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964165)
Gonna steal that boost controller and that diff. Is the motordyne exhaust too restrictive u think?

You don't need the boost controller if you do Ecutek boost control. I would go with a 3in. exhaust. Not sure what size pipes Motordyne uses. I know it is not 3in.

Spooler 10-08-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964166)
1. Not sure about my exhaust. I will be getting the motodyne one. Im pretty sure the bp kit can mount to the motordyne exhaust.
2. Would these do for motor mounts? https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...ts-p-5587.html
3. I have looked at the Wavetech LSD but I think I will choose the OS Giken 1.5 way LSD
4. I do have an 09 and have not looked into the Oil gallery Gasket replacement yet. Not sure abt a timing kit at this time. Still in the early stages of planning but I will look into these things.

For 800hp you will be building the engine. Like I said, making Hp is the easy part. Getting the engine to stay together is a different story.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964168)
For 800hp you will be building the engine. Like I said, making Hp is the easy part. Getting the engine to stay together is a different story.

Oh yea I know ill be building the engine. What precautions or tips should I be focused on to promote longevity of the motor?

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964167)
You don't need the boost controller if you do Ecutek boost control. I would go with a 3in. exhaust. Not sure what size pipes Motordyne uses. I know it is not 3in.

I checked and motordyne has a 2.5 in. and a 3 in. option I can get the 3 in.

Spooler 10-08-2020 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964171)
Oh yea I know ill be building the engine. What precautions or tips should I be focused on to promote longevity of the motor?

Only 2 places so far can build an engine to hold up. Mazworx and SOHO.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964174)
Only 2 places so far can build an engine to hold up. Mazworx and SOHO.

Hm. I was gonna go with a local place that have built VQ's in the past. Now I don't know. I feel it would be easier with the local place due to convince but not sure how well they can do it. The place is GBP - Home

Spooler 10-08-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964175)
Hm. I was gonna go with a local place that have built VQ's in the past. Now I don't know. I feel it would be easier with the local place due to convince but not sure how well they can do it. The place is GBP - Home

I would suggest you do some more research. Not saying that they are a bad place, because I don't know. You need to learn what questions you need to ask.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964176)
I would suggest you do some more research. Not saying that they are a bad place, because I don't know. You need to learn what questions you need to ask.

Makes sense I understand thanks.

Spooler 10-08-2020 01:15 PM

Go through my thread. There are a ton of videos you need to watch.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964180)
Go through my thread. There are a ton of videos you need to watch.

Will do.

Rusty 10-08-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964166)
1. Not sure about my exhaust. I will be getting the motodyne one. Im pretty sure the bp kit can mount to the motordyne exhaust.
2. Would these do for motor mounts? https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...ts-p-5587.html
3. I have looked at the Wavetech LSD but I think I will choose the OS Giken 1.5 way LSD
4. I do have an 09 and have not looked into the Oil gallery Gasket replacement yet. Not sure abt a timing kit at this time. Still in the early stages of planning but I will look into these things.

The OS Giken is a great lsd. I have one. You have to use the OS Giken lube with it. If you use anything else. It will be noisy.

JARblue 10-08-2020 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964175)
Hm. I was gonna go with a local place that have built VQ's in the past. Now I don't know. I feel it would be easier with the local place due to convince but not sure how well they can do it. The place is GBP - Home

Go with a proven shop - there's only a handful around. It doesn't matter how close to home your shop is if they fvck your shìt up :twocents:

Spooler 10-08-2020 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3964196)
Go with a proven shop - there's only a handful around. It doesn't matter how close to home your shop is if they fvck your shìt up :twocents:

That's true, doing it twice sure is expensive. I know Mazworx ships to Canada. They have a drift customer from there with a 980hp billet DE VQ.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3964199)
That's true, doing it twice sure is expensive. I know Mazworx ships to Canada. They have a drift customer from there with a 980hp billet DE VQ.

I emailed them I got quoted 15k for the motor. It is their stage 2.5 long block for the vhr. My local shop is quoting me 13k CAD including labour. He says he has done multiple vq's and the VR38DETT up to 1000whp. 15k is quite alot honestly but im worried I may have to get a second motor if my local one blows.

Rusty 10-08-2020 05:05 PM

Spend the money and only do it once.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3964218)
Spend the money and only do it once.

You are most likely 100% Right but 15k usd is around 20k CAD. I will need to put the built motor off for a bit until I have the money.

Randomizer23 10-08-2020 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3964218)
Spend the money and only do it once.

Hey what about IPP's longblocks? Any good?

Spooler 10-08-2020 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964224)
Hey what about IPP's longblocks? Any good?

Junk

Spooler 10-08-2020 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964217)
I emailed them I got quoted 15k for the motor. It is their stage 2.5 long block for the vhr. My local shop is quoting me 13k CAD including labour. He says he has done multiple vq's and the VR38DETT up to 1000whp. 15k is quite alot honestly but im worried I may have to get a second motor if my local one blows.

You still need a Suckerpunch oil pump and JWT C2 cams. Tack some more money on.

Spooler 10-08-2020 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer23 (Post 3964219)
You are most likely 100% Right but 15k usd is around 20k CAD. I will need to put the built motor off for a bit until I have the money.

I will put it to you this way. If the first motor tanks, nobody else will want to fix it. You will have to buy a junkyard long block and start over. I started with a junkyard long block and still had my stock one at the house. Once Darton MID sleeves are machined in, no other shop will want to take on the challenge of fixing someone elses screw up.


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