It is stock!

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An we are scrapping trying to get the MT CD009 variant to hold. I on't think so.

I'm on the DCT list if anybody had doubt.

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I want to make sure I catch everyone and get the list of those who want in the first batch of adapter plate/flywheel kits. I talk to people here, facebook, facebook messenger, instagram, and email... so it becomes easy to either miss people or double count them if I go by screen names.

I think I have everyone here, but anyone feel free to add themselves if you want to join:

1: Charles K
2: Vince H
3: Adel T
4: Jarred B
5: Derek B
6: Robert P

I am #5. Hotrodz is #6.

Can’t wait to see this come to life.

You already did, Seb's car.

More then just one car

Add me too!

I want to see this happen with HTG too....
Anyone else planning to use HTG?

LMAO, and what turbo kit did you go with?

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Bump

Less superior one. Not everyone has a money tree like hotrodz, they is some pooo folk in dis world

Don't even go there!!! We all know what you are laying down. By the time you upgraded your turbo and all the supporting crap to make your kit functional you are behind the curve. So good luck with that. :eek::gtfo2:

I wonder if Elmo drinks a gallon of Kool-Aid every day. :roflpuke2:

See video in my thread for the joke.

If there is still a slot open I'm in. Shoulders are to fvcked for rowing gears, not interested in the new Z and don't want to trade for an auto. I'll be the guinea pig on an NA car for a bit :driving:

How many miles is the cutoff when shopping for a transmission? I'll be NA for a couple more years so no worries about overpowering it for a while.

Its totally open, it never actually ended up going into production. The company that made the transmission controller that was used in Sebs car for R&D lead us on for a very long time but ultimately never did produce any more TCMs and has pretty much fallen off the face of the earth.

This means that, for the foreseeable future, it is not possible to provide any type of assistance or support for wiring and controlling the transmission. I can produce and sell the parts that allow for a physical bolt-in solution for the transmission. But wiring and controlling that transmission and shifter solutions etc, will all be dependent on the individual installer, who will have to use one of the other standalone TCMs available for these transmissions. This will take a lot of research on the matter, which is honestly going to be quite a bit out of the scope for 90% of DIYers. There is a whole lot to have to learn about to do it, and its a real shame for any human to invest that sort of time into it learning it and figuring it all out, to merely do it just once.

The hours that go into it will also make it unviable for most customers who would consider having a shop figure it all out for them, unless such shop was willing to invest their own time for the sake of learning it and supporting it. But if someone was going to be paying hourly rate for a shop to learn it from scratch and do it, we are talking about probably 10K + in time.

So for these reasons, I have sorta let it sit on the backburner not really sure if its worth producing a batch of them or not.

You may find this interesting....

After I posted the video where I was controlling the G37 gauges via the CAN bus, Daniel from SU2 Performance in Olsztynek, Poland asked for some CAN bus reverse engineering help for his TWIN TURBO 370 with the ZF8HP!!!

He sent me some CAN bus logs and in a few hours he had what he needed.

Here is a video showing the car from their youtube channel, but is isn't in English:


Here is a pic from under the car:
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1629941728

phunk is correct... that is the best transmission for the 370z!

Andre_ems on IG. Tuner in S. FL. is DCT swap and shifting. HR S14. Has videos of it shifting. Might want to hit him up.

LOL sorry for the misunderstanding but we have already completed the swap with a running and driving twin turbo 370z long ago. Andre learned of the DCT swaps from my facebook posts about it.

Not good. Hate it that the TCM folks ghosted everyone.

Well just the one company anyway. The main player for standalone TCM for the DCT is HTG and they are still around and very active. But its still a pretty complex wiring project and I dont know if the swap is really going to be something the community is after if there is nobody providing and wiring package for it.

Probably will be easier and cheaper to swap in the new z34.5 9at assuming it proves to be decent (fingers crossed it is). Bell housing adapter, custom trans crossmember, and new driveshaft. Nissan tcu electronics should be easier to work out. :confused:

Nobody wants a slush box. DCT, YES.

:iagree:

I don't see how people think a couple extra gears will make much if any difference. 7, 9 whatever, a slush box is a slush box. I'd rather go through the growing pains on this and have something great than trade for an auto

The swap scene has been evolving well, I am still paying attention and watching. When we first started this, it was a lot more difficult than it looks to be lately. One TCM brand has really risen to the top on popularity, called HTG. I’ve been watching a transition where they are going from tons of customers posting complaining about how helpless and unguided they feel, just ready to give up and put a stock trans back in… to tons of satisfied users in love with the swap and working on refining their trans tuning as they go. It seems like they are becoming a more streamlined solution as time passes… 6 months ago I would have never want to have been responsible for sending any customers down that path.. but it’s getting better.

Another company has released a printed circuit board that basically handles all the wiring you have to do inside the transmission to convert it for use with standalone TCM. This is huge for making it more DIY friendly. You still have to wire it, but this circuit board lays it out and clarifies what you’re doing.

There is another company who had cracked the internal TCM of the older E90 DCT, and were able to take control of it. This is awesome because now they can send commands to the original bmw TCM to tell it when to shift etc, and carry over all the R&D BMW had in the TCM, making it have truly OEM driving quality out of the box. They were originally saying they had no plans to ever crack the M4 trans, but lately they have shown otherwise and that they are working on it.

So it’s not that this project is dead in the water, but that we have sort of been waiting for the right time to strike. I did not want to end up with a dozen+ customers that cant drive their car for a year because the support structure isn’t in place to get them to the finish line with the project.

The 8HP swaps have been picking up and that’s a good thing because it is a great trans and will definitely sway a lot of would be DCT swappers, leaving more DCTs for us and not driving the prices up too quickly.

The mechanical part of the swap.. as you know, designs are finished and proven in use. They can be produced quite literally at any time.

The 9G Tronic, if anything like the ZF8, would be a massive jump up both in shifting behavior and torque capacity from my current 7AT. It'd most likely still need an adapter plate, TCU, mounting, and new driveshaft though, plus will be into next year before we can get a hold of the new Jatco designed one from the new Z.
Would rather have a DCT at that point, plus actually have one just sitting in my garage.

Is there not enough interest for any tuners to help pioneer with HTG instead?
Their FB group and support has improved a massive amount over just the last few months, to the point where I'd just be concerned about wiring and not software control.

I think that the incentive is low for platform specific tuners to get into it. They don’t have much to gain or money to make for all the time they will invest. Seb is in the perfect position because he’s at a good Z shop, is a tuner himself, qualified/experienced with technical wiring, and even has a personal interest for his own car. It’s easy to imagine though that the idea of starting again from scratch now only to switch TCMs, at great expensive of time of money, is probably discouraging. He has never implied that he will not, it’s just that no discussion has taken place over this, because there has been no defined moment where we gave up on the original TCM supplier. Last contact with them was more about how it’s coming, but alas it never comes. What happens is you wait and wait and wait, and then you just stop thinking or talking about it.

The DCT swap community is full of overall support for swapping the trans into any vehicle, and then it’s up to the user/installer to take any additional platform specific steps. I see this as a generally more likely and viable business strategy for companies in the DCT swap scene over platform specific shops.

Dear Charles,

Thank you for caring about your customers.

Sincerely,
Your customers

I did fire off an email today to one of the more well put together DCT swap shops in Europe to see how complete of a wiring package they offer these days. If not by now, then at some point somebody is going to have as plug and play of a universal kit you could viably have.. and then someone like myself (or preferably Seb haha) can supplement it with the necessary additions for the platform that we need.

This DCT swap video will make you smile.

Awesome car and a cool dude
You can tell he's passionate about modding cars and he's definitely caught the bug for life now. (Edit: probably should've worded that last part differently for post 2019 society, but whatever...)

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My friend Neal makes the DCT kit for that car. When he first starting looking into doing the swap and posting about it, is how I originally learned that it was "a thing" people were doing with other platforms and that standalone TCMs that could run the trans were available. I will most likely contract out production of the adapter plate to the same machine shop he is using.

My situation is different from most. I jumped on board because I already can't drive my car. It's sat since July 4th and it will be next year sometime maybe before I will be able to drive it if it gets out at all next year.

Here's to hoping you have some luck over the winter months :tiphat:

Any luck on the overseas shops with a wiring package?


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No they didnt want to talk to me. My guess is they just want customers to purchase and work with them directly rather than through shops.

Are you going to proceed with these?

I actually just submit for a quote from a different flywheel manufacturer 2 days ago, waiting to hear back numbers. A new style flywheel I want to do with it. Once I get a number back, so long as its within reasonable range, I intend to have them make 10-11 of them and go from there. Seb has been much happier with his newer revision DCT controller.. like I would say he is just as excited about the how the new controller drives as he was to first drive the car with a DCT. Between these updates, we are feeling a lot better about moving along.

Incredible work, DCT on the 370Z is definitely what would want me to keep the Z if I could get the conversion.

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Its full speed ahead on the trans-to-engine hardware kits. I have 3 samples of the adapter plates coming in a couple weeks.. just 3 so I can confirm they got it all right before making too many. I have 1 of the original flywheel left from prototyping, and I have 1 of the new flywheels in prototyping that I should be able to send Seb in a few weeks for him to try in his car. Seems like sometime in May I might go ahead and sell the first 2-3 retail kits.

Of course I still have to iron the details on the rest of the hardware. Driveshafts I can get in a few days notice, easy. I already have a bunch of the driveshaft adapters; I made a run of them the first time since thats an easy part. So really just the trans mount/brace I have to sort out production for now. I will probably make moves on that after the flywheel/adapter kits are 100% and ready to go.