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Streetz 03-03-2018 10:01 AM

CJM (Justin's) drag build
 
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As most of you know we (phunk and I) took the 370z stock engine to the next level. With a best dyno 818whp and 9.91 @142 in the quarter. Our goals have been raised by doing a motor build this winter. I will post up most of what we do to my engine build and chassis setup. Our goal is to push the Z chassis as far and reliable as possible. Yes reliable, our goal is to figure out a solution for those 1000whp+ builds and obtain OEM equipment. Some may have seen we posted that we are adapting a OEM VR heads bolts to my VHR block. This is a very complicated process that is on its way to getting done.

Charles and I will use this thread to keep people up to date with our build process. Look forward to pushing my car hard this year.

jchammond 03-03-2018 12:09 PM

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Spooler 03-03-2018 12:23 PM

^^^^ Country boy..... LOL

Elmo370z 03-03-2018 06:14 PM

Dope. Can’t wait to see what’s in store. You and dynasty are going to have some
Nasty builds this coming year.

Rusty 03-03-2018 07:53 PM

:yum:

:leghump:

:woot:

:postwhore:

:tup:

cupcakez 03-03-2018 08:27 PM

That's right -- Let the 370z community show the world v6's can be super powerful too! :D

.5 seconds slower than the Demon, super amazing!

gbrettin 03-06-2018 03:49 PM

That's awesome! Keep up the good work guys.

TerribleONE 03-06-2018 04:17 PM

Subd

Jayhovah 03-07-2018 08:12 AM

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub'd

jchammond 03-07-2018 09:00 AM

Be sure & install a Chute on the rear; as in the event you manage to break in the 8’s....you’re probably gonna be trapping 160 range.
Good Luck & excited about this build!
:)

BOLIO 671 03-07-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetz (Post 3735339)
As most of you know we (phunk and I) took the 370z stock engine to the next level. With a best dyno 818whp and 9.91 @142 in the quarter.

INSANE!!!! Can’t wait to see what else u guys come up with....

Streetz 03-08-2018 10:11 AM

I will do a 10pt with chute when needed. First goal is to get the car running and everything perfect. I'm not in too big of a rush. Once the car is seeing high trap speeds I can take it to a chassis shop.

Spooler 03-08-2018 10:20 AM

Do you have a video just driving normal showing when the turbo's light? I am thinking about going from a 28 frame turbo to a 30 frame. I would like to see when the turbo's spool up.

Nevermind, I can see enough from the dyno graph to figure out what is going on.

Quicksilvers 03-09-2018 12:24 AM

What tires are you using to planet all that power to the ground?

Streetz 03-10-2018 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3736974)
Do you have a video just driving normal showing when the turbo's light? I am thinking about going from a 28 frame turbo to a 30 frame. I would like to see when the turbo's spool up.

Nevermind, I can see enough from the dyno graph to figure out what is going on.

Turbo spool is instant, you wont notice much if any difference from 28's to 30's. I ramp my boost in slow on purpose to keep the torque down, so the graph is miss leading.

Streetz 03-10-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3737273)
What tires are you using to planet all that power to the ground?

I use MT Bias ply 28x10.5w

Spooler 03-10-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Streetz (Post 3737606)
Turbo spool is instant, you wont notice much if any difference from 28's to 30's. I ramp my boost in slow on purpose to keep the torque down, so the graph is miss leading.

I would change to a 30 frame but it is too late. Oh well. It should be plenty to meet my HP goal.

Quicksilvers 03-11-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Streetz (Post 3737607)
I use MT Bias ply 28x10.5w

That should be plenty enough to plant your power to the ground. Your suspension set up would be a concern though.

cupcakez 03-11-2018 10:37 PM

just slap on a set of kw v3 and u good haha

Streetz 03-15-2018 12:35 PM

The stock springs and ride height worked really well for us. We do have a drag shock that really helps the cars squat and stay low after launch. We will be offering this product one of these days (cough couch phunk) I would highly recommend leaving the car at stock ride height. The Z has a really aggressive compression camber issue when lowered.

URBiN~HURMiT 11-24-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Streetz (Post 3738908)
The stock springs and ride height worked really well for us. We do have a drag shock that really helps the cars squat and stay low after launch. We will be offering this product one of these days (cough couch phunk) I would highly recommend leaving the car at stock ride height. The Z has a really aggressive compression camber issue when lowered.

I had the Vance Drag Racing Coilovers installed at MA-Motorsports (Daelen Snow's) recommendation.
Have yet to take possession of my car but did get a chance to test drive it before final tweaks.
With a little adjusting here and there you can get a good plant and dial out the wheel hop
The car does ride nice as it is ...
Will let you know how that all works out in the Spring Season at Island Dragway here in NJ.

URBiN~HURMiT 11-24-2018 05:55 PM

Vance Coilovers
 
MA-Motorsports politely informed me that the drag racing coilovers I had inquired about weren't the answer I was looking for.

They did educate me and pointed me towards a custom designed and manufactured coilover specifically for my drag racing requirements.
The coilovers are made by Vance - are special ordered and tailored to the specifications of my car.

They come in 2 levels of design and price.
The single tube version is only a few $ more than the other generic ones I had asked about.
The double tube version is fully adjustable for track conditions and you can actually dial out wheel hop.
It's also double the price.

MMA will install camber arms and set up the suspension and 4 wheel alignment with corner balance
MMA also offers a service where they will go to the track with you and dial in the car for you if you'd like.
This is the level of service and proficiency I'm looking for.

Spooler 01-31-2019 07:01 PM

How much longer do we have to wait before your car is up and running?

sc10692 01-31-2019 08:27 PM

What's the benefit of using VR heads instead of VQ35HR?

Elmo370z 01-31-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sc10692 (Post 3820721)
What's the benefit of using VR heads instead of VQ35HR?

Who is using VR heads?

sc10692 01-31-2019 09:08 PM

Read OP quick and it looks like he's just using the VR head bolts nvm

Spooler 01-31-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sc10692 (Post 3820721)
What's the benefit of using VR heads instead of VQ35HR?

Because if you use the VQ35HR heads you will need to run a standalone ECU and it is a challenge to get everything working in the car like it is suppose to.

Spooler 01-31-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sc10692 (Post 3820735)
Read OP quick and it looks like he's just using the VR head bolts nvm

He was on a completely stock engine.

phunk 02-06-2019 10:49 PM

Justin's car isn't expected to run well into spring 2019. There is a lot of fabricating that needs to be done to build the custom intercooler and piping system, along with a custom coolant expansion tank setup. This thread was created about a year prematurely. :rofl2: He just put the completed built engine back in the car maybe 2 months ago. Its got a ways to go.

His engine is using typical VQ37VHR cylinder heads, but yes we did fasten them to the engine with factory Nissan VR38DETT head bolts. This required a whole lot of custom machining.

jmroy6 02-07-2019 11:58 AM

How much more torque can you get out of the VR38DETT head bolts compared to a vq37 L19 head studs? Does anyone know what size the VR head bolts are.. 3/8" or 1/2" dia.?

phunk 02-07-2019 12:06 PM

Stock Nissan bolts are TTY (torque to yield) fasteners, thus are not tightened to a torque spec. It is a different type of strategy for fasteners. After a uniform 30# is set they are tightened an additional 270 degrees (135+135).

VR fasteners are 1mm larger thread diameter than VQ fasteners. M12 vs M11.

Spooler 02-09-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3822715)
Stock Nissan bolts are TTY (torque to yield) fasteners, thus are not tightened to a torque spec. It is a different type of strategy for fasteners. After a uniform 30# is set they are tightened an additional 270 degrees (135+135).

VR fasteners are 1mm larger thread diameter than VQ fasteners. M12 vs M11.

Things that make you go hmm.

phunk 02-09-2019 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3823481)
Things that make you go hmm.

For what it’s worth, the stock VQ fasteners spec is 30# + 190 degrees (95 + 95).

That’s 80 degrees more rotation in the VR fastener over the VQ. They are both 1.25mm thread pitch, so that simplifies the pondering a little.

Being the same thread pitch is the only reason we could do it without going even larger then bringing it back down with thread inserts. Drilling up 1mm doesn’t clear out the original threads. But since they are the same pitch, we could carefully start the m12 tap in what was left of the original threads to oversized them just 1mm. It takes great care.

Also, the bolts are MUCH longer.

Then making them fit the heads was a whole other adventure. We made a fixture for mounting the heads into the CNC for machining programs to be run on them.

Elmo370z 02-09-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3823518)
For what it’s worth, the stock VQ fasteners spec is 30# + 190 degrees (95 + 95).

That’s 80 degrees more rotation in the VR fastener over the VQ. They are both 1.25mm thread pitch, so that simplifies the pondering a little.

Being the same thread pitch is the only reason we could do it without going even larger then bringing it back down with thread inserts. Drilling up 1mm doesn’t clear out the original threads. But since they are the same pitch, we could carefully start the m12 tap in what was left of the original threads to oversized them just 1mm. It takes great care.

Also, the bolts are MUCH longer.

Then making them fit the heads was a whole other adventure. We made a fixture for mounting the heads into the CNC for machining programs to be run on them.

I’m over here just trying to get a twin pump

Rusty 02-10-2019 12:38 AM

phunk thinks on another level when it comes to the Z. :tup:

gbrettin 02-10-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3823522)
I’m over here just trying to get a twin pump

Did someone say something about twin pump?!?!

Elmo370z 02-10-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3823612)
Did someone say something about twin pump?!?!

Charles!!!!!!!!

URBiN~HURMiT 02-10-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3823612)
Did someone say something about twin pump?!?!

yep, there's 2 of 'em

Elmo370z 02-10-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT (Post 3823641)
yep, there's 2 of 'em

Por que

URBiN~HURMiT 02-10-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3823644)
Por que

https://youtu.be/d5ab8BOu4LE


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