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llerrahCorp 10-20-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 774441)
Such a good deal...that thing looks FAST.

want more dynos

209Z 10-20-2010 07:00 PM

im not going to lie. This car is quick!

Q8y_drifter 10-20-2010 07:09 PM

More pics, details, etc...

Cell 10-20-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter (Post 774526)
More pics, details, etc...

:iagree:

We need much more detail than a simple dyno and price. We want more information!

Jamaica 10-20-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 774540)
:iagree:

We need much more detail than a simple dyno and price. We want more information!

you have a phone call em and ask lol

Gunzero 10-20-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 774414)
who said it cost 20k?

the kit cost around 6400 shipped. Then you can run about 7.9 psi and get 474 hp. I have been doing the comparisons. You cant get that with stillen or gtm. Labor gonna cost about 1k or do it yourself.

I was talking about other turbos.. costing 18k+ to do labor parts tune.

Gunzero 10-20-2010 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 774382)
20k for a turbo? more like 10k for the turbo and another 5k-7k for proper upgrades. Some of which are best to be done right away and others down the road.
As stated earlier, it looks like they want to price this kit around 6-7k for the system alone but that does not get you out of spending money on the extras you will need.

Yea exactly. 10k for turbo + 7k upgrade/tun + another 3k for shipping.

Dembflyr 10-21-2010 12:16 AM

Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?
Edit: I know I left out installation and that alone is probably close to $3k when all is said and done. I do my own work so I didn't think about that part.

Q8y_drifter 10-21-2010 12:16 AM

The only difference between this and say the GTM stage 1 is the price of the kit itself. the same upgrades such as clutch, oil cooler(s), gauges, etc will have to be done on both anyway. But even then you are comparing a single turbo kit to a TT kit. Add the price of the other turbo and manifolds and now you're the same price range as the GTM TT kit.

Q8y_drifter 10-21-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 774938)
Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?

You can get away with a $1K 2.5" exhaust. Ofcourse you won't be making the same power as a 3" exhaust. You will definitely need gauges, sensors, oil cooling, shipping, labor (unless DIY). Adds up quick.

theDreamer 10-21-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 774908)
Yea exactly. 10k for turbo + 7k upgrade/tun + another 3k for shipping.

10k gets you a tune, upgrades are as you need them, oil cooler is right away along with some gauges. 3k for shipping? WTF, no.

Lets break it down
-TT kit: 8-10k for kit, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades - Total of 14k-16k
That is about what most have been paying to do a good clean install and be safe with proper upgrades.

-STS kit: 6.5k, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades, does the kit come with a tune if not a possible 1k there for tuning, unknown kit design with possible problems we will throw in another 1k - Total of 12500-14500
This is a untested kit on our car and clearly no support on the forum yet from the makers of this kit. Also, unwated low pipes on the underside of the car may cause issues down the road.

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 774938)
Maybe this needs it's own thread but.... What else would you need to add to the GTM turn key kit to make it right.
The kit is about $8k. A proper 3" exhaust is about $2k. Clutch is another $2k. That's $12,000 right there. Is there really another $8k that needs to be spent to do it "right"?
Edit: I know I left out installation and that alone is probably close to $3k when all is said and done. I do my own work so I didn't think about that part.

You are about right with your estimate, the 15k-17k number is thrown around because the first TT installs were about that. Though those guys all had shops do the work and did 'extras' that may not be required. Such as replace the stock gauges with aftermarket, a lot of labor to tear that down.


I am not putting this kit down or anything, but from the pictures I see, you get savings of around 2k for a single turbo setup that is under the car. I would spend the extra 2k on piece of mind and knowing I have good vendors here that support the current TT kits and will jump in to help in anyways possible.

Gunzero 10-21-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 775147)
10k gets you a tune, upgrades are as you need them, oil cooler is right away along with some gauges. 3k for shipping? WTF, no.

Lets break it down
-TT kit: 8-10k for kit, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades - Total of 14k-16k

Lmao.. 1k-1.5k to ship the car one way. Multiply that x2 = what? 2-3k, but yea driving it back might be better, but still gotta pay for gas.. right?
Brings your total to 19k+ lil shy under 20k right? Just a rough estimate.
Wasn't really an exact figure, but I was trying to say..
If this kit cost 3k for the universal + labor (should be lower since it's easier to install?) so around let's say 3k max for install and fabrication that's 6k spent. You can use the stock exhaust with this kit. still @ 6k.. + tune + upgrades.
If it's under 7-8k then why the hell would I spend 20k on the other one XD
Might as well buy another car with that 20k or make a down payment on a decent house.

Gunzero 10-21-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 774201)
YouTube - outperformanceshop's Channel

Found those videos on youtube while roaming around. There is like 6 videos on the nismo with the STS kit.

Is it me or does it sound like a 4 cylinder car with a exhaust?

Sounds like a high revving race car!!! :D

theDreamer 10-21-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 775413)
Lmao.. 1k-1.5k to ship the car one way. Multiply that x2 = what? 2-3k, but yea driving it back might be better, but still gotta pay for gas.. right?
Brings your total to 19k+ lil shy under 20k right? Just a rough estimate.
Wasn't really an exact figure, but I was trying to say..
If this kit cost 3k for the universal + labor (should be lower since it's easier to install?) so around let's say 3k max for install and fabrication that's 6k spent. You can use the stock exhaust with this kit. still @ 6k.. + tune + upgrades.
If it's under 7-8k then why the hell would I spend 20k on the other one XD
Might as well buy another car with that 20k or make a down payment on a decent house.

This STS kit is $6500 where did you get 3k?
1k to ship, you are over paying, also you are in Texas, plenty of good shops around that you can drive to easily. Also, you said 6k total (assuming 3k for the kit :rofl2:) and then tune plus upgrades is 7-8k. Upgrades are standard between the two kits, it is 3-5k for upgrades you might or will need.

The differences between these two kits are:
-Price for kit (6500 v. 8000): Also, what comes with this kit besides the piping and turbo? Do you get bigger injectors, fuel upgrades, etc.? If not, that is more you have to add to the STS price.
-Install (Unknown difference)

With either kit you are going to spend a minimum of $12,000 to get it on and running, after that you are on your own for upgrades or other items you need.

Jamaica 10-21-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 775452)
This STS kit is $6500 where did you get 3k?
1k to ship, you are over paying, also you are in Texas, plenty of good shops around that you can drive to easily. Also, you said 6k total (assuming 3k for the kit :rofl2:) and then tune plus upgrades is 7-8k. Upgrades are standard between the two kits, it is 3-5k for upgrades you might or will need.

The differences between these two kits are:
-Price for kit (6500 v. 8000): Also, what comes with this kit besides the piping and turbo? Do you get bigger injectors, fuel upgrades, etc.? If not, that is more you have to add to the STS price.
-Install (Unknown difference)

With either kit you are going to spend a minimum of $12,000 to get it on and running, after that you are on your own for upgrades or other items you need.

lol doesnt cost 1k for shipping. Its 6400 shipped to your front door. Install 3k for an install then you getting screwed. Average rate for labor is $99 an hour. So your saying 30 hours for install? idk. The kit comes with injectors and an upgraded fuel system. The only items you need is a camp hks 2 and a oil cooler.


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