Blew it up

Carbon_z · 08-14-2015, 02:40 PM

sorry to hear about that. Good luck on new motor. Try getting a built short block so you can reuse everything else you already have on the car. Then the car wont have any issues.

jwick · 08-14-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay

And out of curiousity, how did the tq get so close to whp? Most I have seen are at least 100 point difference between the two?

Single turbo setups make a lot more torque than twins. My first tune before the 3" intake upgrade was 503/465

mults · 08-14-2015, 03:36 PM

Sorry for the news..makes me think twice about adding that much power to the Z. Once you do the engine, then everything attached needs to be beefed up. Sort of the knee bone is connected to the leg bone, etc...

I have a friend at work with a nice TT 350Z, and we did some track time last weekend and he was definitely faster due to his extra 100HP to the wheels, but at any time, she can go boom!

Hope you get everything sorted out and good luck with your decision to rebuild.

PS...I still would love to go FI on my 40th

even with the possibility of catastrophic failure.

whiteZ34 · 08-15-2015, 11:47 PM

I just now found out about this thread. I'm sorry to hear what happened bud. I had this happen to me in April while my car wa on the dyno. Luckily I got lucky and it was just a ringland and caught it before it got horrible. But I still had to have my engine rebuilt with forged parts. I just got mine back 3 weeks ago. So I know how you feel. Just plan out the best option for you and the car. I was also getting the car ready for my first ZdayZ so that sucked. I still went tho! On the bright side lol

whiteZ34 · 08-15-2015, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

Single turbo setups make a lot more torque than twins. My first tune before the 3" intake upgrade was 503/465

My numbers when mine went were 554whp and 491wtq. So yea I was up around the 500lb TQ area which isn't very good.

Spooler · 08-16-2015, 12:47 AM

Turbo cars can get expensive. Factory turbo car or not. At least we don't shot gun tranny's like crazy.

zguynate · 08-16-2015, 10:24 PM

I'm going to pay the car off before I rebuild it. I still owe about $7k on it. I hope to have it paid off by the end of the year. I've been back and forth about a LS, but I think I'm going to stick with the VQ.

thangcu35 · 08-17-2015, 09:25 AM

Do you remember what max timing was your tune?

zguynate · 08-17-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thangcu35

Do you remember what max timing was your tune?

I do not. Sorry. I may be able to figure out though.

jwick · 08-17-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

I do not. Sorry. I may be able to figure out though.

To be running your numbers at 12psi, I'm guessing 21-22 deg maybe more

phunk · 08-17-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

To be running your numbers at 12psi, I'm guessing 21-22 deg maybe more

Thats more like the timing I ran at 12psi for E85

jwick · 08-17-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Thats more like the timing I ran at 12psi for E85

When I inquired with Sasha what the timing Vince ran on the base map for the BP kit, he told me low 20's. My tune is a little more conservative. I'm at 12lbs but in the high teens.

phunk · 08-17-2015, 03:42 PM

It will be a little different for each setup I suppose, so I cannot really comment on a different turbo system and different fuel... I just wouldnt have guessed it to be so high without trying it myself

TopgunZ · 08-17-2015, 05:01 PM

High 20's on a BASE map? Damn... On E85 I was at 16* while on the dyno in a cool day.

jwick · 08-17-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

High 20's on a BASE map? Damn... On E85 I was at 16* while on the dyno in a cool day.

Where did high 20's come from? Sasha told me low 20's. Mine is in the high teens.

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Carbon_z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,694 Drives: Carbon Fiber 370z Rep Power: 19	sorry to hear about that. Good luck on new motor. Try getting a built short block so you can reuse everything else you already have on the car. Then the car wont have any issues. __________________ Full Carbon Fiber Nissan 370z "400zTT" Fully Built 4.0L Twin Turbo 1300hp, 1100whp. Follow me on Instagram at http://www.instagram.com/carbonz.

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mults A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 70 Posts: 1,830 Drives: 2010 (40th) #706 Rep Power: 16886	Sorry for the news..makes me think twice about adding that much power to the Z. Once you do the engine, then everything attached needs to be beefed up. Sort of the knee bone is connected to the leg bone, etc... I have a friend at work with a nice TT 350Z, and we did some track time last weekend and he was definitely faster due to his extra 100HP to the wheels, but at any time, she can go boom! Hope you get everything sorted out and good luck with your decision to rebuild. PS...I still would love to go FI on my 40th even with the possibility of catastrophic failure. __________________ mults 40th Anniversary 'Z', 312.06HP/260.58TQ (Dynosty EcuTek Tune) Build Date/Number: 1/27/2010 #706 Berk HFC + CBE, R2C CAI, Clear Bra, Cleveland Z Club

08-15-2015, 11:47 PM	#34 (permalink)
whiteZ34 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 33 Posts: 217 Drives: 2012 Boosted 370z Rep Power: 13	I just now found out about this thread. I'm sorry to hear what happened bud. I had this happen to me in April while my car wa on the dyno. Luckily I got lucky and it was just a ringland and caught it before it got horrible. But I still had to have my engine rebuilt with forged parts. I just got mine back 3 weeks ago. So I know how you feel. Just plan out the best option for you and the car. I was also getting the car ready for my first ZdayZ so that sucked. I still went tho! On the bright side lol zguynate likes this. __________________ R/T Built motor, wiseco 9:1 Pistons, Eagle H-beam rods, ARP L-19\| BP kit, PTE 6766, EPS 70mm TB, GTR Intake, PRS lower conversion\| ID1000cc, CJM Twin pump 340&255, PRS Rails, CJM fuel return\| Fast Intentions\| R/T Tuned, 660WHP 596WTQ at 18lbs. 93 octane Last edited by whiteZ34; 08-15-2015 at 11:51 PM.

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,058 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684393	Turbo cars can get expensive. Factory turbo car or not. At least we don't shot gun tranny's like crazy. zguynate likes this.

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zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	I'm going to pay the car off before I rebuild it. I still owe about $7k on it. I hope to have it paid off by the end of the year. I've been back and forth about a LS, but I think I'm going to stick with the VQ. gbrettin, jwick, whiteZ34 and 1 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

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