You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)
and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.
the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.
other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.
you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here
definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.
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It is not a plug and play system like Motec. You don't need another dash display and you lose functionality of the OEM dash. I thought Haltec was looking at doing a plug and play for the Z. Their dash display does plug and play with the Z.
It would be great if they would do it but I don't there is enough demand to justify the cost. If I do end up taking mine out in favour of the c1212 I guess I could probably give it a try but at that point there's not much incentive for me to do it, seeing as I'd have replaced my dash already /shrug
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You have a lot to learn. No one make a plug n play besides motec, vitviper developed the kit. Just as spooler states above.
lol
this is also pretty interesting if anyone has any C++ knowledge. Though I'm sure there are can bus interfaces for most languages. I know there is a nodejs one.
Another EDIT:
VVEL control kb article is here for anyone interested
You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)
and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.
the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.
other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.
you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here
definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.
lol
Let’s us know how that goes.
EndlessZ
02-18-2021 05:27 PM
The stock ecu is pretty good for what most people will ever use it for.
SeeThruHead
02-18-2021 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EndlessZ
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The stock ecu is pretty good for what most people will ever use it for.
yes that is very true. Though we have a couple people here that are intent on being on the "cutting edge" of what's possible with the VQ platform. and IMHO, a custom harness and ecu is what that looks like.
You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)
and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.
the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.
other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.
you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here
definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.
It would be great if they would do it but I don't there is enough demand to justify the cost. If I do end up taking mine out in favour of the c1212 I guess I could probably give it a try but at that point there's not much incentive for me to do it, seeing as I'd have replaced my dash already /shrug
lol
this is also pretty interesting if anyone has any C++ knowledge. Though I'm sure there are can bus interfaces for most languages. I know there is a nodejs one.
Another EDIT:
VVEL control kb article is here for anyone interested
Just like you and 98% of the community are content with the stock Ecu. Reason why the VHR and the tuning is so far behind. At the end of the day if you’re just into street driving and mall crawling then yes motorsport grade electronics aren’t for you. For the few us who either want big power with reliability, and traction or who actually want to compete in races or time trails with very little street use, we want change. I’ll spend the money on it.
Hotrodz
02-18-2021 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead
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yes that is very true. Though we have a couple people here that are intent on being on the "cutting edge" of what's possible with the VQ platform. and IMHO, a custom harness and ecu is what that looks like.
LMAO, there is nothing cutting edge about Motec or a Mil-Spec harness. There are a number of people that run Motec and other stand alone ECUs. If you want talk about use the best technology or tool for achieving the extreme goals that some of us have then that is a different story. The journey we are on is getting what is already available for most platforms but may not be available for the Z or the cost to convert or use is extravagant. We are playing catch up with the Z, nothing more.
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SeeThruHead
02-18-2021 05:59 PM
ok thanks for confirming what I said above guys!
Looks like it's perfectly doable even with oem gauges/sensors. Y'all just want someone to do the wiring work for you so it's easy to plug and play. Good luck!
Hotrodz
02-18-2021 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead
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ok thanks for confirming what I said above guys!
Looks like it's perfectly doable even with oem gauges/sensors. Y'all just want someone to do the wiring work for you so it's easy to plug and play. Good luck!
For someone that is just getting into the game with the Z platform your ignorance and smugness will get you nothing. Why shouldn't we want the same as for other platforms and I take it that know just how easy it is to do a Mil-Spec harness. GTFO!
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Spooler
02-18-2021 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmo370z
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That’s all hearsay. Mark based that off the De platform.
Yes it is unknown but a dang good guess. GTR's have to go to aluminum rods at 1300whp due to rod bearing wear. We will be in the same range. Just like GTR guys break lots of cranks too. Everything I have read has pointed me to the direction I have stated. My statements were not based off of the DE. It is due to all the research I have done over the last couple of years.
Mr.Squeeze
02-18-2021 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmo370z
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Hard to beat race grade TC. Tech has improved so much in the last few years, it just everyone has left the platform to better things. We now have huge improvements with Ecu tek, motec M1 but no one wants to spend the money on developing the software and now emtron is on board to make a full plug n play stand-alone. Cjm and specialty Z now have the Dct which will be huge and a company pmc I believe is make a awd Dct 370. If there just this crowd need to nut up. I believe myself and a few others don’t have to worry about headlift anymore, questions now is where is the limit of the cast block.
Count me in as well as one of the other's that shouldn't have to worry about headlift anymore hopefully.
Elmo370z
02-19-2021 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooler
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Yes it is unknown but a dang good guess. GTR's have to go to aluminum rods at 1300whp due to rod bearing wear. We will be in the same range. Just like GTR guys break lots of cranks too. Everything I have read has pointed me to the direction I have stated. My statements were not based off of the DE. It is due to all the research I have done over the last couple of years.
GTR’s have smaller bearings then the VHR I believe. But yes damn good guess I agree.
GeauxTigers1
03-13-2021 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus
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Your wheels come in yet?
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not yet, just finally got them ordered. Couldn't find anyone that would actually CALL weld to put the order through. They kept just going to the website and claiming the size I needed didn't exist. Got in touch with Weld myself and they confirmed they could. Hoping mid april!!
