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Minsu 06-26-2015 12:06 AM

Realistically Speaking...How much $$$ would I actually need.
 
Im looking at the F.I TT Kit the complete kit.
The kit was priced at 9,999 last time I checked.
But with install, tune, dyno, basically fool proofing, would 20k do it?
And im talking about the stage 2 Kit.

Zbrah 06-26-2015 12:16 AM

What happened to the bike?

Minsu 06-26-2015 12:17 AM

I got the bike already.

Minsu 06-26-2015 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3239849)
What happened to the bike?

Oh wait, you mean after my spill?

I fixed it and now I'm Valentino Rossi.

Thanks.

jcasti07 06-26-2015 12:28 AM

When I spoke with Tony a few months back I got a ballpark figure of roughly 18 grand for everything, so you're in the right range.

Minsu 06-26-2015 12:30 AM

That's 18k if they do the install?

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jcasti07 06-26-2015 12:30 AM

As far as which kit, I can't remember, it was the option that was the best for daily driving.

jcasti07 06-26-2015 12:31 AM

Yes for them to install and tune. Give them a call and take a few minutes to discuss your options. Great team

DavidZ370 06-26-2015 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3239855)
That's 18k if they do the install?

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The Minsu does not let peasants touch the Z, the minsu touches the peasants

axmea? 06-26-2015 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3239843)
Im looking at the F.I TT Kit the complete kit.
The kit was priced at 9,999 last time I checked.
But with install, tune, dyno, basically fool proofing, would 20k do it?
And im talking about the stage 2 Kit.

Just wondering. Why not go straight to the source? Also, you can get a quote on the shops hourly rate and number of hours they will charge you.

Or PM Hotrodz and TerribleONE for a rough estimate. Probably more reasonable and better value here in CA since SpecialtyZ and F.I. did the actual install.

Minsu 06-26-2015 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3239861)
The Minsu does not let peasants touch the Z, the minsu touches the peasants

Well said. Peasant.

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Minsu 06-26-2015 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3239866)
Just wondering. Why not go straight to the source? Also, you can get a quote on the shops hourly rate and number of hours they will charge you.

Or PM Hotrodz and TerribleONE for a rough estimate. Probably more reasonable and better value here in CA since SpecialtyZ and F.I. did the actual install.

Wanted a community based answer first. Tony be busy makin tt kits, I'll just throw money at him once I get the ballpark.

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2011 Nismo#91 06-26-2015 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3239843)
Im looking at the F.I TT Kit the complete kit.
The kit was priced at 9,999 last time I checked.
But with install, tune, dyno, basically fool proofing, would 20k do it?
And im talking about the stage 2 Kit.

Budget 22-24k for the TT, to do it right and have plenty of room for more power later down the road. Just for you Minsu I'll try and find the build I was looking at doing for a properly done reliable 500 whp.
http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ggestions.html
You can cut some costs from there, or add some.

Quafe LSD
Aeromotice Stealth 340lph Fuel Pump (or 255 but for more power you'll have to upgrade)
Goodridge SS Brake Line Set
Test Pipes
TT Tuner Kit GT28R .86 Housing External BOV (From the GTM days but the specs offer good upgradability)
Nissan VQ37 SP Line Injector Set: 6x1050cc SP Line Saturated /High Impedance (optional but will have to upgrade stock for more power)
OS Giken Twin Plate w/ Damper Touring w/ Hard Cover w/ Upgraded Slave Cylinder (you can go cheaper here, even stick with stock and just fix the slave cylinder, you will need a new clutch if you add any more torque)
34 Row Oil Cooler + block off plate for cooler weather
CSF Radiator
AFR/Boost/Oil Psi Gauges AEM Digital Gauges
Exhaust Heat Wrap
Uprev and Tuning
Choice of catback

Suspension (aka no point in making power if you can't put it down!) Budget additional 5K or so
KWv3
Sway Bars Whiteline, stillen, hotchkiss
Front Camber Arms, Rear Camber Arms, Rear Traction Arms
Upgraded diff and engine mounts (optional)
Brake pads and fluid (carbotech XP10/8 + RBF600)
Better tires

Optional
3.33 Final Drive
IC Thermal Coating

Finally and most importantly, even if you do everything right, things can go catastrophically wrong.
Have an in case **** budget. ~6-8k of funds to at least get your Z on the road again.

njobe89 06-26-2015 08:15 AM

so including the Z price, you're looking at a used gtr range 0.o

JC-Nismo 06-26-2015 08:16 AM

Phuck that, buy another Z for that money!!!

Chuck33079 06-26-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3240032)
Budget 22-24k for the TT, to do it right and have plenty of room for more power later down the road. Just for you Minsu I'll try and find the build I was looking at doing for a properly done reliable 500 whp.
http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ggestions.html
You can cut some costs from there, or add some.

Quafe LSD
Aeromotice Stealth 340lph Fuel Pump (or 255 but for more power you'll have to upgrade)
Goodridge SS Brake Line Set
Test Pipes
TT Tuner Kit GT28R .86 Housing External BOV (From the GTM days but the specs offer good upgradability)
Nissan VQ37 SP Line Injector Set: 6x1050cc SP Line Saturated /High Impedance (optional but will have to upgrade stock for more power)
OS Giken Twin Plate w/ Damper Touring w/ Hard Cover w/ Upgraded Slave Cylinder (you can go cheaper here, even stick with stock and just fix the slave cylinder, you will need a new clutch if you add any more torque)
34 Row Oil Cooler + block off plate for cooler weather
CSF Radiator
AFR/Boost/Oil Psi Gauges AEM Digital Gauges
Exhaust Heat Wrap
Uprev and Tuning
Choice of catback

Suspension (aka no point in making power if you can't put it down!) Budget additional 5K or so
KWv3
Sway Bars Whiteline, stillen, hotchkiss
Front Camber Arms, Rear Camber Arms, Rear Traction Arms
Upgraded diff and engine mounts (optional)
Brake pads and fluid (carbotech XP10/8 + RBF600)
Better tires

Optional
3.33 Final Drive
IC Thermal Coating

Finally and most importantly, even if you do everything right, things can go catastrophically wrong.
Have an in case **** budget. ~6-8k of funds to at least get your Z on the road again.

:iagree:
There's a solid $5-7k in there that isn't really a necessity with the kit, but you're pretty much there. Putting a turbo on a Z requires at least $15k no matter what kit you go with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3240073)
so including the Z price, you're looking at a used gtr range 0.o

A TT Z is more fun than a GTR. It's better looking and comes with a proper transmission. Just because we're on a Nissan site doesn't mean we are all GTR fanboys.

Blighter 06-26-2015 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3240077)
:iagree:
There's a solid $5-7k in there that isn't really a necessity with the kit, but you're pretty much there. Putting a turbo on a Z requires at least $15k no matter what kit you go with.



A TT Z is more fun than a GTR. It's better looking and comes with a proper transmission. Just because we're on a Nissan site doesn't mean we are all GTR fanboys.

I like the GTR looks better :tiphat:

Chuck33079 06-26-2015 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auspicious_one (Post 3240085)
I like the GTR looks better :tiphat:

Plenty of people seem to like it for some reason. It's an impressive performance achievement, but a car that costs that much should be beautiful. The GTR just looks like an engineering exercise.

njobe89 06-26-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3240077)
:iagree:
There's a solid $5-7k in there that isn't really a necessity with the kit, but you're pretty much there. Putting a turbo on a Z requires at least $15k no matter what kit you go with.



A TT Z is more fun than a GTR. It's better looking and comes with a proper transmission. Just because we're on a Nissan site doesn't mean we are all GTR fanboys.

never driven a gtr so can't comment on that :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Auspicious_one (Post 3240085)
I like the GTR looks better :tiphat:

i think the gtr is ugly honestly lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3240088)
Plenty of people seem to like it for some reason. It's an impressive performance achievement, but a car that costs that much should be beautiful. The GTR just looks like an engineering exercise.

:iagree:

kenchan 06-26-2015 08:43 AM

wait, wat happened to the gokart project?

2011 Nismo#91 06-26-2015 08:45 AM

That's why I never did it. Though IMO the Z looks much better then a GTR and with a used GTR power mods are not any cheaper so...
I ended up spending money on some small NA upgrades, a real sound system, appearance type stuff, and best of all track time. That track time showed me that ~300whp is plenty to learn on.

Oh and and the pricing was done with NYC labor rates ~100/hr
There are plenty of places to cut costs but that plan was for high reliability, easy drive ability, and things to save money later for future power.

Blighter 06-26-2015 08:46 AM

I guess it just love that iconic front bumper, and the lights on the back

:yum:

BC416 06-26-2015 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3240077)
:iagree:
There's a solid $5-7k in there that isn't really a necessity with the kit, but you're pretty much there. Putting a turbo on a Z requires at least $15k no matter what kit you go with.



A TT Z is more fun than a GTR. It's better looking and comes with a proper transmission. Just because we're on a Nissan site doesn't mean we are all GTR fanboys.

:iagree:

Spooler 06-26-2015 11:40 AM

It's not cheap, you are looking at around at least 15K in parts plus tuning. This is if you install everything yourself. I would put the 3K in labor on a lift for my new garage and do the install myself.

Minsu 06-26-2015 11:42 AM

If only my hands knew the workings of a car as opposed to keeping a human alive I would do the same spooler, unfortunately, I can keep you alive but my car would die faster than you can say boost.

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Fuzzzy 06-26-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3240101)
wait, wat happened to the gokart project?

Threw money at it and it just fell to the ground.

Minsu 06-26-2015 11:54 AM

That project turned into either a new ducati or a tt kit :)

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kenchan 06-26-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3240333)
That project turned into either a new ducati or a tt kit :)

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ahhh! :tup:

Spooler 06-26-2015 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3240290)
If only my hands knew the workings of a car as opposed to keeping a human alive I would do the same spooler, unfortunately, I can keep you alive but my car would die faster than you can say boost.

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LOL, don't damage those hands bud. We all need to live a bit longer.

Spooler 06-26-2015 11:58 AM

If you had 20K in hand, you should be good. Just don't go overboard and be ready for an engine issue later.

Minsu 06-26-2015 11:58 AM

Now from the reading I did on the 250 page thread of the FI Kit, they had a kit making over 600HP which im assuming is the complete kit with stage 3? But would that mean I need to build the motor at that point? Im not sure what Tony meant by, new internals.

Spooler 06-26-2015 12:00 PM

Think that was a stag 2. The stag 3 is what I hear someone with a carbon Fiber bodied car is getting here real soon.

Minsu 06-26-2015 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3240348)
If you had 20K in hand, you should be good. Just don't go overboard and be ready for an engine issue later.

A part of me feels like the maintenance is hard to keep up with?
I mean the reason I wanted a "fool Proof" is cause well...im quite adept with cars. I mean I can do my own oil changes and i guess know enough about the transmission part of the car but the engine is something I never looked at.
It turns me off, but boost turns me on.

Minsu 06-26-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3240357)
Think that was a stag 2. The stag 3 is what I hear someone with a carbon Fiber bodied car is getting here real soon.

so the stage 2 can make 600+ on pump 91? I gotta take another look at the dyno chart on the post brb.

Spooler 06-26-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3240358)
A part of me feels like the maintenance is hard to keep up with?
I mean the reason I wanted a "fool Proof" is cause well...im quite adept with cars. I mean I can do my own oil changes and i guess know enough about the transmission part of the car but the engine is something I never looked at.
It turns me off, but boost turns me on.

I have done it before with my 1975 280zt. It is most enjoyable when it is right, which is 90% of the time. The other 10% sucks. If you stay with the lower Stage 1 kit, you will be more reliable. How reliable, not sure. If I had a TT kit I could tell you in a couple of years since I put about 30K miles on my car a year driving back and forth to work. 100k miles with no issue would be oustanding reliablilty. It can be done if you have the right tuning, supporting mods, and TT Kit.

Spooler 06-26-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 3240362)
so the stage 2 can make 600+ on pump 91? I gotta take another look at the dyno chart on the post brb.

Think it was 93 oct. You can always dial the Boost controller back when not on race fuel or poorer fuel quality like 91.

Chuck33079 06-26-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3240366)
Think it was 93 oct. You can always dial the Boost controller back when not on race fuel or poorer fuel quality like 91.

Those sound more like E85 numbers. A 91 octane tune is going to be a hell of a lot less power than that.

gbrettin 06-26-2015 12:56 PM

And those are the reasons why I'm going to LSX swap my car. 600hp from a 6.2 is easy mode.

Spooler 06-26-2015 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3240455)
Those sound more like E85 numbers. A 91 octane tune is going to be a hell of a lot less power than that.

Could be right, it may have been E85.

brucelidat 06-26-2015 01:27 PM

20k is plenty for this kit plus install and kit related supporting mods. That doesn't include stuff like LSD, suspension, etc. though.


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