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mikey1600 02-15-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo (Post 3110738)
it is this one, 3.5" thick.
Air to Water Heat Exchanger

instead of modifying the crash bar, I am going to add a aluminum angle support to each side and bolt it to the bottom of the crash bar

check my album if you want some more info/pics on what I did with mine, seems to work well, still need to trim the rear of the front bar to get it to fit properly, I still need to trim mine a tad more, as my bonnet doesn't close by itself, I need to push down on it to get it to lock properly atm, so slightly more trim needed, it's due for supercharger oil change soon so going to tidy it up then :)

I ended up using the alloy from the crash bar lower support also to make the brackets, seem to hold well and are light.

EliteXpress 02-16-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3111035)
Did you have your tuner adjust the fan speed controls?
This is a big help in Texas, allows them to kick on at a lower temp, nice for traffic.

Fan’s kick on at 215F, does that sound about right? Temp fall’s pretty quickly once fans are on.


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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3111036)
My car is probably not running warm enough to be a DD. My oil isn't going past 145 on the street in 70-80 degree weather.


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That's so cool that you have it all worked out that way! Seems tho you are really READY for the track now! :bowrofl:

theDreamer 02-16-2015 02:28 PM

This is my current fan table, I know some have it even lower for the temps but this has worked for street driving with my GTM SC.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...%2520Speed.JPG

jwick 02-16-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3113352)
This is my current fan table, I know some have it even lower for the temps but this has worked for street driving with my GTM SC.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...%2520Speed.JPG

Mine is full on for anything above the 0degC

JWillis72 02-16-2015 03:18 PM

Mine is at 100% before 200, is that 100% at 215? If so that should work. In the summer my car got hot fast with the SC and stock cooling.


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theDreamer 02-16-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3113399)
Mine is full on for anything above the 0degC

Damn!
Yeah, I think we just did a 10 degree drop on all temps but left the percents similar to factory. I think going down another 10 degrees would be ideal for me.

jwick 02-16-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3113402)
Damn!
Yeah, I think we just did a 10 degree drop on all temps but left the percents similar to factory. I think going down another 10 degrees would be ideal for me.

In fairness my turbo is cooled by the oil from the block so it helps to have the fan pulling air through my oil cooler. You're SC has a contained oil system so you don't have that additional heat.

JWillis72 02-16-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3113409)
In fairness my turbo is cooled by the oil from the block so it helps to have the fan pulling air through my oil cooler. You're SC has a contained oil system so you don't have that additional heat.

I don't know if you can with your set up but getting the oil cooler so it's not in front of the radiator really helped both run cooler. With having the turbos cooled by the engine oil that could be huge improvements in temps.

cycy89 02-18-2015 09:30 AM

Congrats on the built! What kind of app are you running on the tablet? What information does it display? Additional mods or sensors required?

ANMVQ 02-18-2015 12:43 PM

My Fans are set at 100% @185

EliteXpress 02-19-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3115237)
Congrats on the built! What kind of app are you running on the tablet? What information does it display? Additional mods or sensors required?

Using PLX Kiwi 2 Bluetooth Running Dash Command, plugs right into the OBD Port.


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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3113401)
Mine is at 100% before 200, is that 100% at 215? If so that should work. In the summer my car got hot fast with the SC and stock cooling.


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Yeah 100% at 215F

brucelidat 02-20-2015 11:21 AM

sub'd to this in case the z35 do snot meet expectations

brucelidat 02-21-2015 01:12 AM

Can anyone tell me why these upgrades were needed as well? Are these necessary/recommended for the kit to run well? Or are they a bit over overkill to be safe and cover your bases in case you want to push it further in the future?

gt-r spark plugs
Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port 25mm BOV
DeatschWerks 850cc Injectors
DeatschWerks DW300 Fuel Pump

VSS370z 02-21-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118365)
Can anyone tell me why these upgrades were needed as well? Are these necessary/recommended for the kit to run well? Or are they a bit over overkill to be safe and cover your bases in case you want to push it further in the future?

gt-r spark plugs
Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port 25mm BOV
DeatschWerks 850cc Injectors
DeatschWerks DW300 Fuel Pump

I would say more for safety but pushing the kit further well from what i have seen here the kit is very good to 400-480whp after that the kit pretty much runs out of steam. Either you end up blowing the motor by upgrading some parts of the kit or upgrade to a turbo kit.

brucelidat 02-21-2015 11:41 AM

So you don't really need these for the kit to run well with the 9lb pulley. The maf upgrade seems like a good idea for some idling issues people have had.

JWillis72 02-21-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118521)
So you don't really need these for the kit to run well with the 9lb pulley. The maf upgrade seems like a good idea for some idling issues people have had.

I cant say for sure with the 9lb pulley but I don't believe so, I have none of that on my car but I'm on the 8lb pulley.

Jordo! 02-21-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118365)
Can anyone tell me why these upgrades were needed as well? Are these necessary/recommended for the kit to run well? Or are they a bit over overkill to be safe and cover your bases in case you want to push it further in the future?

gt-r spark plugs
Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port 25mm BOV
DeatschWerks 850cc Injectors
DeatschWerks DW300 Fuel Pump

See further here
http://www.the370z.com/tuning/61966-...l-600rwhp.html

and here

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ml#post2174175

and here, regarding OEM duty cycles.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/91235-...ml#post2860535

brucelidat 02-22-2015 12:00 AM

So I am really not knowledgeable about this stuff but it seems like at this power range (420ish whp), the upgraded injectors and fuel pump aren't really necessary. Some people have had some idling issues with this kit though (maybe due to turbulence), so maybe the maf upgrades might still be worthwhile if they address this.

EliteXpress 02-23-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118365)
Can anyone tell me why these upgrades were needed as well? Are these necessary/recommended for the kit to run well? Or are they a bit over overkill to be safe and cover your bases in case you want to push it further in the future?

gt-r spark plugs
Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port 25mm BOV
DeatschWerks 850cc Injectors
DeatschWerks DW300 Fuel Pump

The GT-R spark plugs I would highly recommend, as for the Turbosmart BOV that's just for show off sound effects :D The DeatschWerks Injectors and fuel pump is not a must but the deal I got on it I could not pass on them and thought maybe I could squeeze a E85 tune from them in the future.

Flow Calculator

Wheel Horsepower To Crankshaft Horsepower

mikey1600 02-24-2015 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118365)
Can anyone tell me why these upgrades were needed as well? Are these necessary/recommended for the kit to run well? Or are they a bit over overkill to be safe and cover your bases in case you want to push it further in the future?

gt-r spark plugs
Turbosmart Kompact Dual Port 25mm BOV
DeatschWerks 850cc Injectors
DeatschWerks DW300 Fuel Pump

Just the spark plugs are needed, HKS make some as well, I'm running those in mine. otherwise I'm running the standard stillen kit apart from the frozenboost heat exchanger and with the 9lb pulley.

mikey1600 02-24-2015 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3118896)
So I am really not knowledgeable about this stuff but it seems like at this power range (420ish whp), the upgraded injectors and fuel pump aren't really necessary. Some people have had some idling issues with this kit though (maybe due to turbulence), so maybe the maf upgrades might still be worthwhile if they address this.

there were some people having idling issues who didn't install the shroud that came with the kit, it's a metal bracket, although I couldn't find a way to fit this in after installing the frozenboost heat exchanger as there was no room for it, the guys having issues I believe were running the standard kit without the metal bracket in front of the air filters installed.

JWillis72 02-24-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 3120524)
there were some people having idling issues who didn't install the shroud that came with the kit, it's a metal bracket, although I couldn't find a way to fit this in after installing the frozenboost heat exchanger as there was no room for it, the guys having issues I believe were running the standard kit without the metal bracket in front of the air filters installed.

I agree, the shop that installed my kit left it off and it caused the car lots of issues. After two days at the tuners trying to figure out what was happening we found that part missing. I made one and most of the problems went away so I made a larger one and it got even better. The third and final is much larger than the Stillen one but it cleared up all the little bugs it had at idle or coasting.

brucelidat 02-24-2015 12:13 PM

So the shroud solves the problem, but it doesn't fit with the Frozenboost heat exchanger that everyone recommends? Not even the thinner one?

ANMVQ 02-24-2015 12:31 PM

How different is the Z kit, I had the large Frozenboost exchanger and the metal shroud for the intakes

JWillis72 02-24-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3120946)
So the shroud solves the problem, but it doesn't fit with the Frozenboost heat exchanger that everyone recommends? Not even the thinner one?

Make your own, on mine I used a piece of flat aluminum sheet metal that bent up and behind part of the lower filter and screwed to the metal bumper. The stillen one screws to the bumper and points down and back into the space where the frozen boost is.

JWillis72 02-24-2015 12:44 PM

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This is the Stillen part we are talking about.

JWillis72 02-24-2015 12:52 PM

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...4fc1fa69e8.jpg

If you look close under the bumper you can see the sheet metal we added( only one screw in it at the time).


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mikey1600 02-24-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3120946)
So the shroud solves the problem, but it doesn't fit with the Frozenboost heat exchanger that everyone recommends? Not even the thinner one?

When installing the larger 3.5" thick heat exchanger, no idea about the smaller one, there is no room to fit the part, I ended up mounting my heat exchanger underneath the crash bar, some people put it further in front, some people further behind. So depends on where you install your core I guess.

the heat exchanger core completely covers on my install where the metal shroud is meant to go, other people who installed the larger unit, reported not installing this part also and no issues with their idle, my idle is completely fine.

just keep it in mind when you do your install, if you have issues with the idle, you might have to fab something up, otherwise if you are going with the frozenboost core, you shouldn't really need to do anything

EliteXpress 04-25-2015 04:19 PM

A lil update had an issue with code P1239 from time to time. This code would of course put the Z into limp mode. Turn off back on and all good for a Day or Three. Code then started to show itself more frequent so after some research narrowed it to the jumper cable for the T/B. Mark from Stillen got me a new one shipped over. Changed out and now code free once again. Z now has 80K miles running and shifting just fine. Below is a lil fun from TX2K15 weekend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7djLs3vxeDA

EVOHUNTER 04-29-2015 05:33 PM

When I installed my Frozenboost, I made a small rectangle box out of that flexible white plastic. My air filters sit in there now.

I did this because the bottom filter would still have air passing through it, even after the core install. Also, I noticed after my Fan was set to full speed all the time. it would pull air through the filter causing the mafs to get a weird reading once in a while.

EliteXpress 05-07-2015 12:18 AM

Key to getting the MAX from this kit is consistent MAF readings. Any positive airflow passing over the air filters will create inconsistent MAF readings with an end result of turbulence making the Z have a sputter affect when accelerating with a result sometimes into limp mode. Since I'm running the upgraded Frozen Boost heat exchanger that is not allowing me to install the "Stillen" factory deflector, I have had the Y pipe re-adjusted a few weeks ago in cutting away some of the metal where the hood latches into place and making a little deflector from an old licences plate. This really helped with more of a consistent MAF reading allowing for a much better Z response. Oh.. And of course my 9lb pulley helps with that response too! :driving:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/..._194346157.jpg

Nyght 05-10-2015 04:29 AM

Sick build! I can't believe I haven't seen your car yet! I live in Katy! :)

jwick 06-07-2015 01:51 PM

You at Katy graduation today?

jwick 06-07-2015 01:59 PM

370z AT With Stillen S/C And The Upgrades
 
Double post...

EliteXpress 06-07-2015 09:50 PM

Yes Sir...:tiphat:

jwick 06-07-2015 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3221811)
Yes Sir...:tiphat:


Picked you up on 10 and you were behind me on the feeder. Wished I'd been in the G.

Beautiful Z bro

EliteXpress 06-23-2015 10:15 PM

Had things moved around a bit more to help with the MAF's, this deflector helped clean the readings up a bit better.

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/..._195126327.jpg

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/..._201019701.jpg

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ofw--60_12.jpg

EliteXpress 07-06-2015 09:53 PM

She now has 82,500 miles on her and a lil over 6k on the kit! Always showing off the front, so figured I show a lil A$$! :icon23:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...03692_HDR1.jpg


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