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airikrankin 02-02-2015 07:44 AM

oil-less turbo for rear mount?
 
was thinking about doing a home build similar to an sts setup but using a comp oil-less turbo. it would eliminate the use of an external oil pump but still require coolant lines ran to it. would this be to far to travel for coolant lines? or any other reason this would be a bad idea?

TopgunZ 02-02-2015 09:10 AM

Go read about the STS kits that 350Z members had/have. You will probably change your thoughts on a rear mount.

airikrankin 02-03-2015 11:30 AM

not sure what you mean, seen a few videos of 350 and 370z's on youtube with them and everything seems fine. i did see a few post with issues with sts kit itself as far as fitment or build quality but if i plan on building myself those wouldnt be the issue.

TerribleONE 02-03-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by airikrankin (Post 3100524)
not sure what you mean, seen a few videos of 350 and 370z's on youtube with them and everything seems fine. i did see a few post with issues with sts kit itself as far as fitment or build quality but if i plan on building myself those wouldnt be the issue.

:tup: for wanting to DIY but I would reconsider your turbo location.

COSMO 02-03-2015 11:40 AM

Hey pal if you don't go with a bp turbo kit, sasha's disciples will most certainly crucify you here on the forum..

Rangerz 02-03-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100534)
Hey pal if you don't go with a bp turbo kit, sasha's disciples will most certainly crucify you here on the forum..

How is that even relevent to the OPs question?:confused:

thangcu35 02-03-2015 12:14 PM

Why not go with a bp kit but with an oil less turbo? Rear mount is laggy.

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:21 PM

A rear mount would be very laggy and not saying a bp kit wouldn't be a bad choice..

JARblue 02-03-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100601)
and not saying a bp kit would be a bad choice..

Maybe not, but that sure was a :stirthepot: comment :rolleyes:

And yeah, OP, as mentioned the rear mount is laggy.

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by airikrankin (Post 3100524)
not sure what you mean, seen a few videos of 350 and 370z's on youtube with them and everything seems fine. i did see a few post with issues with sts kit itself as far as fitment or build quality but if i plan on building myself those wouldnt be the issue.

Do not judge your kit on watching videos of it on the street. I could paint a turd gold and say it was a nugget from the hills on youtube.

Read some threads on it. What people like or don't like about the kit. Educate yourself on all the problems which will or may arise.

And yes, I have heard nothing but lag stories. That is a ton of piping to charge. Plus your exhaust gasses are cooling by the time they get back there. More heat = more spool.

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:29 PM

Fixed, I meant to write, wouldn't instead of would..:tup:


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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3100603)
Maybe not, but that sure was a :stirthepot: comment :rolleyes:

And yeah, OP, as mentioned the rear mount is laggy.


JARblue 02-03-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100617)
Fixed, I meant to write, wouldn't instead of would..:tup:

So more :stirthepot: ... You are saying the BP kit would be a bad choice?

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:36 PM

Ok lets go over our words here.. (wouldn't) short for (would not).. The bp kit would not be a bad choice.. Tomorrow we will cover another word... lol

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100534)
Hey pal if you don't go with a bp turbo kit, sasha's disciples will most certainly crucify you here on the forum..

I wonder what the reason for that would be...... Maybe because the kit is tried and proven to make incredible results? Maybe because there are not any concerns of it being laggy with its twin scroll design? Maybe because it made 533whp 470wtq on 9lbs? Perhaps its BP's top notch customer service?


Yeah, we stand behind our purchases because we have reasons and results to do so.:happydance:

jwick 02-03-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100624)
Ok lets go over our words here.. (wouldn't) short for (would not).. The bp kit would not be a bad choice.. Tomorrow we will cover another word... lol

So can tomorrow's lesson be on the meaning of, or better yet, not using double negatives:tup:

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:39 PM

And like I mentioned, here are his disciples now... lol

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:42 PM

I wonder if Fast Intentions has a super club people can join like the bp club? As far as the bp kit goes it is very good but to say incredible is far fetched.. Look what some of these custom builds progressing for a moment. It's forced induction people, more air , more fuel and less timing...

JARblue 02-03-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100624)
Ok lets go over our words here.. (wouldn't) short for (would not).. The bp kit would not be a bad choice.. Tomorrow we will cover another word... lol

:facepalm:

You're the one using a damn double (or triple? I can't tell) negative. Your post that I quoted (it is still there) said "not saying bp would be a bad choice". This is what I assumed you meant, despite your earlier :stirthepot: comment about Sasha's disciples. You can also read this statement as 'bp would be a good choice'.

Then you tried to change would to wouldn't. So now your statement reads "not saying bp wouldn't be a bad choice". This is a fuckin triple negative that can also be read as 'bp would be a bad choice'.

So I questioned your correction, and you proceed to chastise me for your lack of understanding of the English language? I don't think so :gtfo2:

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3100627)
So can tomorrow's lesson be on the meaning of, or better yet, not using double negatives:tup:

No $hit. He's giving me grammar lessons? Seriously? I'm a fuckin grammar Nazi lol


Sorry for the off topic :tiphat:

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:49 PM

wow man really get out and get a life... lol

JARblue 02-03-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100631)
And like I mentioned, here are his disciples now... lol

No one has said $hit about it. Also, let's clear the air. I don't have his kit. I've never even spoken to the guy. I just found it humorous that you felt you had to :stirthepot: before it was even brought up.

JARblue 02-03-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100661)
wow man really get out and get a life... lol

u mad bro :mad:

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100640)
I wonder if Fast Intentions has a super club people can join like the bp club? As far as the bp kit goes it is very good but to say incredible is far fetched.. Look what some of these custom builds progressing for a moment. It's forced induction people, more air , more fuel and less timing...

Weren't you cheering about keeping threads on track? When your sitting here trying to de-rail this one?

No. Because nobody has installed their own Fast Intentions kit.

Less timing? I'm advanced to 19*.

COSMO 02-03-2015 12:56 PM

Because your not running crap for boost because you lack a built motor..
Not mad at all, actually having lunch laughing you guys trying not to choke... lol

And as if seems your the only one trying to stir things up here...

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 01:05 PM

I'm trying to prevent your posts from dumbing down the community.

I wish I had 4 hands so I could give your posts 4 thumbs down. :supergay:

COSMO 02-03-2015 01:11 PM

dumbing down, nice terminology there ace.. :bowrofl::bowrofl::rofl2::rofl2:
Nice flag to btw, I had a feeling you went both ways..

exsanity 02-03-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3100664)
u mad bro :mad:

I'm mad.. bro! :mad:

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100695)
dumbing down, nice terminology there ace.. :bowrofl::bowrofl::rofl2::rofl2:
Nice flag to btw, I had a feeling you went both ways..

What do you mean?

COSMO 02-03-2015 01:42 PM

You know exactly what I mean... Flying your multicolored flag, I hear ya brotha just let it out. People come out of the closet in all kinds of ways and its ok..

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 01:59 PM

No idea.....:confused:

FPenvy 02-03-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100640)
I wonder if Fast Intentions has a super club people can join like the bp club? As far as the bp kit goes it is very good but to say incredible is far fetched.. Look what some of these custom builds progressing for a moment. It's forced induction people, more air , more fuel and less timing...

don't forget to mention that the FI TT, AAM TT, and custom TT builds also function on both the 6MT and 7AT :stirthepot:

Boosted Performance 02-03-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3099179)
Oh and regarding the gtr board, I think do to the fact of not everybody can afford a 100k car, the forum is entirely professional without trolling and politics..


Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100534)
Hey pal if you don't go with a bp turbo kit, sasha's disciples will most certainly crucify you here on the forum..

http://www.troll.me/images/jackie-ch...nfused-bro.jpg



I am not sure why you have an issues with my customers posting their honest experience with the kit. You posted your experience with GTM...maybe you regret taking that road, and don't like see others having successful builds with other kits?

I as vendor think that these open forums are great for all of you (customers) to come in and do your research. It provides the new potential customers with important information on the products on the market, how they perform, how the customers service is, and an overall experience.

COSMO 02-03-2015 02:17 PM

And the Messiah has again spoken. Your disciples keep you very informed..

TopgunZ 02-03-2015 02:39 PM

Why cant you just learn when to shut the F**k up? Your input adds ZERO education to those looking for future kits. :gtfo2:

Mods... Do we want this on the forum? Look how far he has derailed this thread..AGAIN.

How many times has he been warned to keep things on track and relevant to the posting title?

People come here to learn how to spend the thousands of hard earned dollars and pour their heart into it and they are getting false impressions from this guy. Without his ignorant posts, they would be way better off.

COSMO 02-03-2015 04:06 PM

Dude your the only one here having a fit and you should try taking some of your own advise.. Cleanup on isle 3..

jwick 02-03-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100534)
Hey pal if you don't go with a bp turbo kit, sasha's disciples will most certainly crucify you here on the forum..

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100624)
Ok lets go over our words here.. (wouldn't) short for (would not).. The bp kit would not be a bad choice.. Tomorrow we will cover another word... lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100631)
And like I mentioned, here are his disciples now... lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100640)
I wonder if Fast Intentions has a super club people can join like the bp club? As far as the bp kit goes it is very good but to say incredible is far fetched.. Look what some of these custom builds progressing for a moment. It's forced induction people, more air , more fuel and less timing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100661)
wow man really get out and get a life... lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100671)
Because your not running crap for boost because you lack a built motor..
Not mad at all, actually having lunch laughing you guys trying not to choke... lol

And as if seems your the only one trying to stir things up here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100695)
dumbing down, nice terminology there ace.. :bowrofl::bowrofl::rofl2::rofl2:
Nice flag to btw, I had a feeling you went both ways..

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100725)
You know exactly what I mean... Flying your multicolored flag, I hear ya brotha just let it out. People come out of the closet in all kinds of ways and its ok..

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100774)
And the Messiah has again spoken. Your disciples keep you very informed..

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3100888)
Dude your the only one here having a fit and you should try taking some of your own advise.. Cleanup on isle 3..

Yup...every one of these above the belt and on topic :ugh2:

VSS370z 02-03-2015 04:28 PM

Was looking into doing some reading on this thread but guess i'll get :wtf2:

COSMO 02-03-2015 04:37 PM

Yeah the BP Club of America has taken over this thread and every other FI thread on the forum.. Drop it guys and troll-on somewhere else..



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Originally Posted by VSS370z (Post 3100903)
Was looking into doing some reading on this thread but guess i'll get :wtf2:


airikrankin 02-03-2015 04:44 PM

ya was excited to see 3 pages of replies to only be let down, ha oh well i did consider the bp kit but i also do not want to buy a fi exhaust to mate up with it. i suppose if i were considering to diy turbo, a diy exhaust wouldnt be that hard to fap up. with the tt kits out now i cant swallow spending the 10k on a kit i will never push to its potential. i was considering selling the car in anticipation of the new z coming out but now its almost paid off and wouldn't mind boosting it and not having a car payment for awhile. for the price of the stillen kit for the hp gain, the bp kit is far more of a better choice. but with these oil-less turbos plumbing one up for a rear mount just seems like a cost effective approach for a diy turbo kit to make roughly 400hp. i live near a "tuner shop", so a dyno would be handy along with any issues that may arise, iv dont a custom turbo build before and also have done a custom supercharger build before. so i understand what is involved. iv read a few post of owners of the sts kit say there is no lag, wich im quite sure that there is but are claiming to hit full boost by 3500rpms with videos on youtube to prove it. i have only skimmed the 350z forums for issues with the sts kit and it seems like the only issues are with sts themselves not the turbo placement. there are i think 3k replies to the official sts turbo thread wich is mostly people complaining about sts. i need to get my car up in the air perhaps there is a closer place for it, has anyone been under thier z lately to think of a "cavity" it could be placed or is it fairly tight?

jaytirbhaw 02-22-2015 09:54 AM

:wtf2:

Chuck33079 02-22-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by airikrankin (Post 3100924)
ya was excited to see 3 pages of replies to only be let down, ha oh well i did consider the bp kit but i also do not want to buy a fi exhaust to mate up with it. i suppose if i were considering to diy turbo, a diy exhaust wouldnt be that hard to fap up. with the tt kits out now i cant swallow spending the 10k on a kit i will never push to its potential. i was considering selling the car in anticipation of the new z coming out but now its almost paid off and wouldn't mind boosting it and not having a car payment for awhile. for the price of the stillen kit for the hp gain, the bp kit is far more of a better choice. but with these oil-less turbos plumbing one up for a rear mount just seems like a cost effective approach for a diy turbo kit to make roughly 400hp. i live near a "tuner shop", so a dyno would be handy along with any issues that may arise, iv dont a custom turbo build before and also have done a custom supercharger build before. so i understand what is involved. iv read a few post of owners of the sts kit say there is no lag, wich im quite sure that there is but are claiming to hit full boost by 3500rpms with videos on youtube to prove it. i have only skimmed the 350z forums for issues with the sts kit and it seems like the only issues are with sts themselves not the turbo placement. there are i think 3k replies to the official sts turbo thread wich is mostly people complaining about sts. i need to get my car up in the air perhaps there is a closer place for it, has anyone been under thier z lately to think of a "cavity" it could be placed or is it fairly tight?

It's not the "full boost by 3500 rpm" lag that's the problem. It's going to be the on/off throttle parts. You've got a lot of pipe to pressurize every time you roll on the gas, even when you're above 3500 rpm. Mounting a turbo out back is a seriously compromised location.


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