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DjSquall 05-08-2013 08:57 AM

Looking for a wide body solution
 
Ok car nuts, save me here.

I run 20x10 and 20x12's, currently at -4.5 degrees camber to fit 305/25/20's. it's KILLING me. I need a wide body solution that's economic and practical as I'm sick and tired of dropping $8-10k per summer on tires. My last Set of Falkens lasted me a whole... Wait for it... 3 weeks!!!!

I was thinking of getting the veilside's over fenders for the rear, and I've been told I can flare the fronts and the bumper will be pulled together with the metal.

I'm sure there's plenty of folks on here that know how much cutting/welding may be involved, and if anyone has some good advice, post it up.

Also it will probably help to mention than I'll be switching over to R888's once my camber is down to -1, -1.5 degrees.

Chuck33079 05-08-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2305913)
currently at -4.5 degrees camber to fit 305/25/20's. it's KILLING me. I need a wide body solution that's economic and practical as I'm sick and tired of dropping $8-10k per summer on tires. My last Set of Falkens lasted me a whole... Wait for it... 3 weeks!!!!

My God. I have no help to offer, but just reading that made my wallet hurt. No matter how much it costs to get this straightened out, you're still saving money.

G37Sam 05-08-2013 09:18 AM

Why not use wheels that actually fit instead? The Z is already pretty wide.

homeryansta 05-08-2013 09:32 AM

Baller status!

theDreamer 05-08-2013 09:33 AM

What are your wheel offsets?
You should be able to get away with 20x12 without running -4.5 camber in the rear and fitting a 305 tire.

Chuck33079 05-08-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2305977)
What are your wheel offsets?
You should be able to get away with 20x12 without running -4.5 camber in the rear and fitting a 305 tire.

This. Something seems odd.

DjSquall 05-08-2013 09:49 AM

I have 0 offset in the rear. Full 6" deep dish. Car is slammed to sit only an inch off the ground as well. And if I'm gonna change the rims, it will be to go even wider.. I have some evil evil plans for the engine/drivetrain when the warranty runs out

Chuck33079 05-08-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2306011)
Car is slammed to sit only an inch off the ground

I'm assuming you're on coilovers, so why not raise the car up a tad and minimize the tire damage until you can get the issue fixed?

DjSquall 05-08-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2306027)
I'm assuming you're on coilovers, so why not raise the car up a tad and minimize the tire damage until you can get the issue fixed?

They'll stick out and I want to avoid that. Plus, reducing camber without modifying my quarter panels might result in them getting sliced up on a bump. It's a PITA, as you can see.

m3chhawk 05-08-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2306011)
I have 0 offset in the rear. Full 6" deep dish. Car is slammed to sit only an inch off the ground as well. And if I'm gonna change the rims, it will be to go even wider.. I have some evil evil plans for the engine/drivetrain when the warranty runs out

Pics or it didn't happen :pics:

DarkJak 05-08-2013 10:16 AM

Have you considered going custom, since you're already spending so much? UAM did that for their fenders and it came out beautifully, very stock looking.

Alstann 05-08-2013 10:33 AM

There is a guy down in S FL that runs 20x13 with 345 wide at -2.1, I believe. Stock fenders. ^^

DjSquall 05-08-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2306056)
Pics or it didn't happen :pics:

Thanks for the useful input

TenaciousZ 05-08-2013 11:02 AM

In case you haven't seen this thread already:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...y-process.html

He mentions having his rear fenders molded and sold later on - not sure what ever came of it though. Might be worth looking in to.

DjSquall 05-08-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2306061)
Have you considered going custom, since you're already spending so much? UAM did that for their fenders and it came out beautifully, very stock looking.

Yeah, for a price tag of $10k, I'm better off getting a veilside's kit. And UAM didn't make molds so I can't get a replica off them. I'm also not after the stock look, I want something aggressive...

The nightmare of it all is that I have no idea where to even start right now. Hopefully some vendors or knowledgeable guys on here can give me ideas on what I can/can't do.

The bottom line is, car stays slammed, wheels stay on, and until I can get full contact, I can't do turbos.

DjSquall 05-08-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TenaciousZ (Post 2306175)
In case you haven't seen this thread already:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...y-process.html

He mentions having his rear fenders molded and sold later on - not sure what ever came of it though. Might be worth looking in to.

Thanks for the link, I've been following mikes car since day 1


Edit: you can't just "mold" the rear quarter panels on our cars... They require cutting & welding no matter how you look at it.

TenaciousZ 05-08-2013 11:11 AM

Yea its too bad they cant just bolt on like the fronts.

The double edge sword of modding -
Mod to be original - Only mass produced parts are affordable.

1st 05-08-2013 11:18 AM

Post a pic of your car i gotta see that stance. I like stupid stance and hella flush but i know that it comes with a price tag.

ChrisSlicks 05-08-2013 11:34 AM

You should be able to run 12" rears with -2.0 camber, but the offset would need to be around +10 to +15.

skosmc 05-08-2013 11:52 AM

Also an idea would be to do a mini tub. I havnt seen it done to a Z yet but its alway an option. Keeps stock looks and you will be able to fit some wide tires under the car while keeping camber in check. Guys do it all the time with Vettes and what not. Just tossing out options. Not sure how well it would work for you.

cooltoy 05-08-2013 12:02 PM

I think this is the car.

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...35529707_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...17486498_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...59850660_n.jpg

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...67029152_n.jpg

DjSquall 05-08-2013 12:11 PM

Yes that's my baby! How'd you know lol!!

N0SL3N 05-08-2013 12:38 PM

There is a shop at keele and langstaff that I saw is doing a widebody 350. You could probably get a price from them for a custom kit.

DjSquall 05-08-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2306352)
There is a shop at keele and langstaff that I saw is doing a widebody 350. You could probably get a price from them for a custom kit.

Do you know which shop it is exactly? That's right around the corner from my house!

cooltoy 05-08-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2306304)
Yes that's my baby! How'd you know lol!!

Google is my friend.:tup:

N0SL3N 05-08-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2306358)
Do you know which shop it is exactly? That's right around the corner from my house!

It was at 8600 Keele. If you drive through the middle driveway of the 4 buildings it is the first garage on the left. not sure what number the shop is but you would probably see it because it was there last week.

There is also this:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...try-these.html

DjSquall 05-08-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2306367)
It was at 8600 Keele. If you drive through the middle driveway of the 4 buildings it is the first garage on the left. not sure what number the shop is but you would probably see it because it was there last week.

There is also this:
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...try-these.html

Thanks I know the place :) these guys service the trucks for one of our partner companies.

Jamaica 05-08-2013 01:23 PM



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84...ps81bee7d6.jpg
I was running the same offsets and was fine. There really isn't a need for a wide body with those offsets. If you wanted to go more aggressive, that could be a solution.

DjSquall 05-08-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica (Post 2306427)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84...ps81bee7d6.jpg
I was running the same offsets and was fine. There really isn't a need for a wide body with those offsets. If you wanted to go more aggressive, that could be a solution.

Can you inbox me your number? If you don't mind I wanna ask a bunch of questions lol.

KaienZ34 05-08-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2306114)
There is a guy down in S FL that runs 20x13 with 345 wide at -2.1, I believe. Stock fenders. ^^


http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...x11-20x13.html

KaienZ34 05-08-2013 02:10 PM

Didn't Reaper go custom wide body?

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...seracecar.html

DjSquall 05-08-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2306352)
There is a shop at keele and langstaff that I saw is doing a widebody 350. You could probably get a price from them for a custom kit.

Found the shop. They only build engines, he had the wide body done somewhere in London.

dirTy_shoeZ 05-08-2013 04:48 PM

run a 295 and you can go down a little lower too. and check your toe cause thats probably what is tearing up your tires so quickly.

cheap widebody option grab some s30 flares and do a test fit, see if it flows and cut those quarters.

or you can usually get away with milling the back pad about 3-5mm's without weakening the wheel. and with that i think you'd be fine.

Reaper42 05-09-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2306518)

;) Yessir

DjSquall 05-09-2013 05:17 AM

I can't go any lower, the coilovers are already bottomed out. And I wanna go with the proxies, which is a much fatter tire.

I guess so far my best option is to go custom... Hopefully I can get the process pics from UAM soon, as I've found a couple guys in my area who may be willing to tackle the challenge. :)

dirTy_shoeZ 05-09-2013 12:46 PM

what coils are you on that you cant go lower? if you feel like your only option is custom then you answered your own question.

DjSquall 05-09-2013 12:50 PM

I'm on KWV3's. and yeah I know I did, I was hoping someone would come out with a widebody kit for the Z already.. Guess not.

theDreamer 05-09-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 2308378)
I'm on KWV3's. and yeah I know I did, I was hoping someone would come out with a widebody kit for the Z already.. Guess not.

The welded on fenders is turning people away I bet.

m3chhawk 05-09-2013 12:56 PM

VeilSide has kit if that's your cup of tea

Tamon also has one, but its like $27k (but sexy as hell).

DjSquall 05-09-2013 02:57 PM

I know veilside's is an option, and I do like the kit. I still gotta do some shopping around and figure out what's the better way to go. Seems either way, I'll be out another $10k or so. Bummer :(


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