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The_Zed_car 06-30-2009 07:14 PM

Fake Bride vs Real bride
 
Saw this on another forum:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...les/gias-1.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...les/gias-2.jpg

Probably a good idea to make sure you don't get ripped off and buy from an authorized bride store.

CrownR426 07-07-2009 02:11 PM

If I got ripped off from Bride seats the seller would not live to see another day. :usa:

Celcius 07-08-2009 11:43 AM

Thanks for the post up! What forum did you find this on? Did they have guides to spot fake Zeta IIIs or other Bride models as well? One of my buddies recently god scammed on a set of the reclinables.

kannibul 07-08-2009 12:43 PM

And here I was thinking this was a thread about importing wimenz.

Supergoji 07-09-2009 01:22 AM

just so everyone knows, most of the gias seats on ebay are fake.

Phimosis 07-09-2009 01:38 AM

Interesting thread. I know nothing aout Bride seats. Makes me think they must be overpriced though. The things that get knockoffs made of them are items that are cheap to produce, but uncompetitively priced on the open market. Usually with price fixing agreements with "authorized" retailers to prevent them from pricing the item competitively.

smurfblu13 07-09-2009 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 110269)
Interesting thread. I know nothing aout Bride seats. Makes me think they must be overpriced though. The things that get knockoffs made of them are items that are cheap to produce, but uncompetitively priced on the open market. Usually with price fixing agreements with "authorized" retailers to prevent them from pricing the item competitively.


Sorry I don't know if it's just me but things priced high generally have a better quality about them. For example, watches, I would much rather pay for the in house movement of a Panerai than a replica that will lose time and not be the quality of the real, same goes with clothes. This is just my opinion though.

The_Zed_car 07-10-2009 04:42 PM

I saw this on evolution M i believe it was.

Companies that can make their products meet the FIA standards usually have the tooling, and resources to make quality products.

But hey, if you want to use Recaro SPG knockoffs or Zeta III knockoffs and pray they survive in a crash, be my guest.

need4speed 07-10-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 110269)
Interesting thread. I know nothing aout Bride seats. Makes me think they must be overpriced though. The things that get knockoffs made of them are items that are cheap to produce, but uncompetitively priced on the open market. Usually with price fixing agreements with "authorized" retailers to prevent them from pricing the item competitively.

Good point. Sorry some people in here don't understand ur point fully.
I don't think u wanna buy knock offs? I just think you are stating that
The monopoly effect of these companies charge super high prices for
Goods that are way beyond r&d. Licensing distribution and reasonable
Profit. And u r right.
But they do bring one valid point. You can almost certainly count on
Quality.
And I say almost cuz our domestic goods also have a high recall rate.
Think baby car seats. Lol.

wstar 07-10-2009 10:39 PM

If the knock-offs were of equal quality I might agree, but the images at the top of the thread clearly point out that they are not. The knock-offs are using steel plates where the original uses aluminum to shed weight, and they're not embossing the indentation where the adjustment knob goes to keep it more compact. Even if they were perfect knock-offs functionality-wise and the originals were overpriced, taking the brand name is always a no-no to me. They're putting a faked Bride logo all over the surface of that knockoff seat. They could at least own up and put their own company name on it and just steal the design :P

KusoSama 07-30-2010 12:20 PM

What about these??

BRIDE GIAS GRADIATION LowMax JDM Seat TOYOTA NISSAN: eBay Motors (item 300409741618 end time Aug-18-10 20:01:44 PDT)

Are they quality enough to replace the OEM?

theDreamer 07-30-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 652440)

No, those are fake Bride seats, with no history of safety standards or records.

Liquid_G 07-30-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 652440)

"These BRIDE seats are made by BRIDE Taiwan and are not made in Japan by Tee's Corp. BRIDE is a legal registered trademark in Taiwan and Canada. These seats are not made in Japan."

run away from those.. don't look back.

Stealth_Z 07-30-2010 03:25 PM

this is why I buy my JDM stuff @ more-japan.com ... they are one of the official importer of Bride. And I believe they are part of Tanabe or something.

kenchan 07-30-2010 03:49 PM

this thread reminds me of phalen.

real japanese vs faux japanese

KusoSama 08-02-2010 02:50 PM

I'm a little confused at what the big deal is.. Has anyone got an experience to share that says that a faux seat that is considerably cheaper than the genuine article is actually a worse seat to use in DD and light track days?

For some the whole point of the seat isn't the brand or the material.. It's the design that provides better lateral G support.

The OE seats suck on the 370z and I say that as a previous EVO X owner who has been completely pampered by the OE Recaros I had.

Please link me to videos or studies that say the fakes being sold as Bride are actually bad.

theDreamer 08-02-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 656150)
I'm a little confused at what the big deal is.. Has anyone got an experience to share that says that a faux seat that is considerably cheaper than the genuine article is actually a worse seat to use in DD and light track days?

For some the whole point of the seat isn't the brand or the material.. It's the design that provides better lateral G support.

The OE seats suck on the 370z and I say that as a previous EVO X owner who has been completely pampered by the OE Recaros I had.

Please link me to videos or studies that say the fakes being sold as Bride are actually bad.

It is not the fact that there is proof they are bad, it is there is proof the Bride are good and follow strict standards to meet safety standards that are required.

phelan 08-02-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 652903)
this thread reminds me of phalen.

real japanese vs faux japanese

<--- i'm doing this right now ken :mad:


:rofl2:

kenchan 08-02-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 656150)
I'm a little confused at what the big deal is.. Has anyone got an experience to share that says that a faux seat that is considerably cheaper than the genuine article is actually a worse seat to use in DD and light track days?

For some the whole point of the seat isn't the brand or the material.. It's the design that provides better lateral G support.

The OE seats suck on the 370z and I say that as a previous EVO X owner who has been completely pampered by the OE Recaros I had.

Please link me to videos or studies that say the fakes being sold as Bride are actually bad.

your post stinks just as much as your handle, Mr.Crap. :tup:

kenchan 08-02-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 656161)
<--- i'm doing this right now ken :mad:


:rofl2:

glad you liked. :icon17:

KusoSama 08-02-2010 04:34 PM

I think everyone here is missing the point of I'm trying to make...

Does every driver require all the safety specifications required by race circuits for an accident that could occur on a street/highway? No.

Does every driver require materials like kevlar or carbon fiber or aluminum brackets?? No.

All I'm lookin at is a good solution to a common issue I feel will happen for any 370z owner. Barely any lateral G support because of the way the sport seat isn't really in the shape of a racing bucket. I don't need to spend $1500/seat to get the same concepts in a faux seat. I could spend $900 for 2 seats and get the same level of lateral support because the design concept is the same...

phelan 08-02-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 656295)
I think everyone here is missing the point of I'm trying to make...

Does every driver require all the safety specifications required by race circuits for an accident that could occur on a street/highway? No.

Does every driver require materials like kevlar or carbon fiber or aluminum brackets?? No.

All I'm lookin at is a good solution to a common issue I feel will happen for any 370z owner. Barely any lateral G support because of the way the sport seat isn't really in the shape of a racing bucket. I don't need to spend $1500/seat to get the same concepts in a faux seat. I could spend $900 for 2 seats and get the same level of lateral support because the design concept is the same...

the common consumer does not need a big name brand seat, fine. some drivers, however, need that FIA-approval, hence they go for the legitimate one. with that said, i don't like the idea of buying 'fake' products, especially if it rips wholesale and makes a profit off of someone elses' work, like the fake BRIDEs are clearly doing (matching everything including logo, gradation, etc)

ibtl / this thread turning into a 'lulz knockoff parts' thread again

JB-370z 08-02-2010 05:09 PM

I know Dreamer is highly considering these!!! :rofl2:

kenchan 08-02-2010 05:17 PM

get the corbeau's or watever they're called. they're cheap and they are not faux. they take pride in cheap. :D

JB-370z 08-02-2010 05:27 PM

Hahahaha I love this thread!

KusoSama 08-02-2010 09:13 PM

I would love for someone to provide a direct safety comparison between all the iterations of the Bride name.

If it's such a liability, then shouldn't there be something out there?

From what I have seen is the designs and name were jacked when Bride of Japan forgot to renew the brand. With that said, what base is there to not getting these besides those pesky sweatshop practices...

Phimosis 08-03-2010 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KusoSama (Post 656726)
I would love for someone to provide a direct safety comparison between all the iterations of the Bride name.

If it's such a liability, then shouldn't there be something out there?

From what I have seen is the designs and name were jacked when Bride of Japan forgot to renew the brand. With that said, what base is there to not getting these besides those pesky sweatshop practices...

There's not going to be a direct comparison because you don't know who's making anything except the real ones. You may order 2 fake bride seats from a vendor and have the two look and feel totally different because one is made in taiwan and the other in mexico. Just like ordering fake Louis Vuitton handbags: some are $50, cheap and obviously an imposter while others are $150 and hard to tell from the original.

There's also patent violations involved so most people won't make comparisons for fear of being sued. Imaginge Consumer Reports saying fake Blueray's from China are just as good as one's released from Paramount or Sony. There would be a sh1t storm going on in their legal department.

KusoSama 08-03-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 657502)
There's not going to be a direct comparison because you don't know who's making anything except the real ones. You may order 2 fake bride seats from a vendor and have the two look and feel totally different because one is made in taiwan and the other in mexico. Just like ordering fake Louis Vuitton handbags: some are $50, cheap and obviously an imposter while others are $150 and hard to tell from the original.

There's also patent violations involved so most people won't make comparisons for fear of being sued. Imaginge Consumer Reports saying fake Blueray's from China are just as good as one's released from Paramount or Sony. There would be a sh1t storm going on in their legal department.


:iagree:Finally a very good and thought out point conveyed.:iagree:

Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 11:01 AM

you guys do realize part owner of Bride seats left Japan and took rights of the company to Taiwan. Hints why bride in japan is now labeling there seats "Bride Japan".
Bride seats made in Taiwan carry the same specs and overall quality. Bride seats in Taiwan are pretty legit IMO

theDreamer 07-26-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges (Post 1230756)
you guys do realize part owner of Bride seats left Japan and took rights of the company to Taiwan. Hints why bride in japan is now labeling there seats "Bride Japan".
Bride seats made in Taiwan carry the same specs and overall quality. Bride seats in Taiwan are pretty legit IMO

I would really like to see some proof on this, as I was aware the Taiwan company was created through a loophole with name registration/rights and just bought a few Bride seats and start manufacturing them. Also using lower quality metals and parts.

Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 02:45 PM

Ive seen a set from taiwan and they are very good looking. Using all the same quality parts. Im just saying, just because it says japan on it dont always assume its made there. Bride japan may be sourcing parts and pieces from someone else. You never really know....

theDreamer 07-26-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges (Post 1231299)
Ive seen a set from taiwan and they are very good looking. Using all the same quality parts. Im just saying, just because it says japan on it dont always assume its made there. Bride japan may be sourcing parts and pieces from someone else. You never really know....

I have seen a set from Taiwan many times also and brand new they look decent, but give it a few weeks and the material starts to fade quickly, rips or tears start to pop up. Not saying the Japan seats are not being outsourced at all, but the Japan Bride parts definitely hold up better and many of their seats meet FIA requirements or other racing league rules.

shadoquad 07-26-2011 02:50 PM

Real Bride:
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Fake Bride:
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Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 02:50 PM

Fabric may be different of course but! ive compared bothe seats and there the exact same lol. From what i heard someone who worked at Bride Japan left and obviously knows how there made, took that info to taiwan and makes them there.

theDreamer 07-26-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges (Post 1231316)
Fabric may be different of course but! ive compared bothe seats and there the exact same lol. From what i heard someone who worked at Bride Japan left and obviously knows how there made, took that info to taiwan and makes them there.

If the Taiwan Bride seats start getting FIA approval and other ratings then they might be up to par, but not having that safety standard is a huge issue.

Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 02:58 PM

Oh i understand but when its made exactly same with the same material how can it not be approved. Btw do you know of any videos of bride japan seats being tested? havent seen any.

theDreamer 07-26-2011 03:05 PM

Bride Super Seat

Cannot find any video evidence as it probably is kept in house for security.

Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 03:08 PM

if your wearing a 5 point harness i dont think your gonna go anywere but stuck to the seat :p

good find

theDreamer 07-26-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges (Post 1231346)
if your wearing a 5 point harness i dont think your gonna go anywere but stuck to the seat :p

good find

True, but the question is will the replica survive the crash. The harness will hold you but if the seat folds under the pressure or cracks and bends then it does you no good.

Prosport Gauges 07-26-2011 03:16 PM

well to be honest. the seats from taiwan i see have the same exact material, brackets, metal...etc.


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