Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Exterior & Interior (http://www.the370z.com/exterior-interior/)
-   -   Blind spot elemination idea (http://www.the370z.com/exterior-interior/58375-blind-spot-elemination-idea.html)

kenchan 08-01-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1847404)


I saw this a while ago. A new mirror similar to how a disco ball works that offers a wider field of view.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ugvcIfTtrM...-blindspot.jpg

that's the same concept as wat comes with the craftsquare mirrors. it is wide angle view, thus no need to shoulder check. one does need to learn how to know distance though as objects in mirror ARE much closer than they appear.

cooltoy 08-01-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 1848812)
My problem is when backing out of a parking space at the mall. The blind spot I have a problem with is from both sides but primarily on the passenger side...I use the small porthole window behind the passenger seat but still don't feel confident and the passenger seat is usually blocking it. I only hope if someone is coming they will give way and stop or honk to let me know they are there. I haven't found a way, other than a passenger, to be able to see if anyone is coming (whether in a car or on foot). I can't think of any way to improve this. A backup cam wouldn't help and the side mirrors sure aren't any help. Suggestions?


Back into to the spot and you never have to worry about that.

kenchan 08-01-2012 11:44 AM

or wire up a secondary camera with split view used in japan for the front of the car, i guess. monitor using aftermarket HU, use video-input.

UNKNOWN_370 08-01-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1848826)
that's the same concept as wat comes with the craftsquare mirrors. it is wide angle view, thus no need to shoulder check. one does need to learn how to know distance though as objects in mirror ARE much closer than they appear.

Do the power features still work with the craftsquare???

kenchan 08-01-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1849042)
Do the power features still work with the craftsquare???

no, it's manual. once i got it setup, i rarely change it so it's not a problem for me.

the down side is if this is going on a dd, if you lock it down at the position you like (race mode they call it) and someone bumps it with their fat arse or purse, it could potentially break the mirror. it's not a fragile mirror, but a big enough bump who knows.

UNKNOWN_370 08-01-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1849053)
no, it's manual. once i got it setup, i rarely change it so it's not a problem for me.

the down side is if this is going on a dd, if you lock it down at the position you like (race mode they call it) and someone bumps it with their fat arse or purse, it could potentially break the mirror. it's not a fragile mirror, but a big enough bump who knows.

I drive my car mostly on wkends... maybe once or twice during the week. But i ride hard so I rather just have durable shyt on my car... But the overall design of the craftsquare is pretty nice...

kenchan 08-01-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1849157)
I drive my car mostly on wkends... maybe once or twice during the week. But i ride hard so I rather just have durable shyt on my car... But the overall design of the craftsquare is pretty nice...

it's durable enough for GT races so any street driving/weekend road course/auto-x you might be doing is not going to affect it at all... well, unless you crash. :icon17: but thats a different story.

RiCharlie 08-01-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1847404)
Even when the mirrors are positioned correctly, there is very little overlap between each one. I also tend to set far back and the b-pillar does block a lot. You can't tell if someone from the far right/left lane is switching over at the same time as you. The worst is looking towards the passenger b-pillar while changing lanes.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1343768458

Good point..the green car is completely hidden from the Z no matter how the mirrors are set....they just dont rotate out far enough.. can you illustrate the problem of coming to a stop sign where another road crosses at less than 90 degrees coming from the right?

Jack370Z 08-01-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1848992)
Back into to the spot and you never have to worry about that.

That is true but if you're picking up groceries it's hard to get the grocery cart between cars to the hatch for loading is impossible.

RiCharlie 08-03-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 1847722)
My daughter has a mirror like that on her inside rear view mirror. While it does give a wider range of view, objects are going to be smaller. So I'm 50/50 on it. Because when I drive her car, I have to focus longer on the mirror longer to check for motorcycle riders and this only gets worse at night.

But then again, I don't have young eyes :shakes head:

That is exactly the problem..and it would be solved by a simple flat mirror that was attached to the regular mirror at a different angle..thereby giving a wider view without the distortion..the two mirrors would work together..

I cant believe that such a F*** a simple common sense thing is unavailable!

( Yes I am loosing my patience!)

RiCharlie 08-03-2012 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by bigdog1250 View Post
Or you just set your mirrors correctly (so you don't see the side of your car in them) and you will have no real blind spots...

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 1847745)
:iagree: Spot on.




Ok so tell me how I adjust the mirror so I can see a car coming from my right hand side at an intersection where the intersecting road cannot be seen in the windshield because it is not intersecting at a 90 degree angle but at something less and cannot be seen thought the pillar on the right hand side because the side mirror cannot be adjusted far enough out to see it either?

I have had to stop and actually get out of the car in this situation..

Mike 08-03-2012 09:16 PM

I have mine adjusted to where I can't see the sides of my car. Before an oncoming car on either side of me goes out of view of my rearview mirror, I can see it in the sideview, and before it goes out of view on that, I can see it without a mirror.

My 2013 Mustang GT has the little extra mirrors on the sideviews and I hate them.

w0rM 08-03-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1853202)
Originally Posted by bigdog1250 View Post
Or you just set your mirrors correctly (so you don't see the side of your car in them) and you will have no real blind spots...






Ok so tell me how I adjust the mirror so I can see a car coming from my right hand side at an intersection where the intersecting road cannot be seen in the windshield because it is not intersecting at a 90 degree angle but at something less and cannot be seen thought the pillar on the right hand side because the side mirror cannot be adjusted far enough out to see it either?

I have had to stop and actually get out of the car in this situation..

I've honestly never in my life come across a situation like this.

RiCharlie 08-03-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1853205)
I have mine adjusted to where I can't see the sides of my car. Before an oncoming car on either side of me goes out of view of my rearview mirror, I can see it in the sideview, and before it goes out of view on that, I can see it without a mirror.

My 2013 Mustang GT has the little extra mirrors on the sideviews and I hate them.


Why do you hate them?

RiCharlie 08-03-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 1853212)
I've honestly never in my life come across a situation like this.

Well there are several roads here which have intersections that are more like an X than a + ( not to mention the roundabouts)and that is a real pain! See the problem?

Mike 08-03-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1853214)
Why do you hate them?

because they are unneccesary and distracting. They take up mirror space that could be better used with a direct view. There is no reason to see the side of your car in your sideview mirror. Noone is ever going to sneak that close without you knowing it.

HDyoyo 08-05-2012 04:56 PM

http://www.wegetworld.com/images/pro...u160_400_4.jpg
these help a lot!

cooltoy 08-05-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightwish (Post 1855088)
I almost side swipe another car so with that said the next day I came up with this set up.I used a set motorcycle mirrors and mounted them under the factory mirrors..honesty I didn't care what it look like as long as it was functional but it looked pretty good to me.
One of the company should design something like this to add on under our mirrors i used koso 380 degree but there are tons of designs to choose from i had these already .

Pictures?

RiCharlie 08-06-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightwish (Post 1855088)
I almost side swipe another car so with that said the next day I came up with this set up.I used a set motorcycle mirrors and mounted them under the factory mirrors..honesty I didn't care what it look like as long as it was functional but it looked pretty good to me.
One of the company should design something like this to add on under our mirrors i used koso 380 degree but there are tons of designs to choose from i had these already .

Yes lets see those pics..

RiCharlie 08-06-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDyoyo (Post 1854906)

Thanks for your post but this illustrates the problem..see how your mirrors duplicate a lot of what you already see?? They show a lot of area you already see and make the extra area very small,.

Imagine if the mirror was flat and placed at an angle to the original mirror..now you would see the additional area but objects in that area would not be so small...
Its not so much a problem on the drivers side but on the passengers side ..objects are so small you cannot see them..

I was thinking of carrying a microscope and using it each time I glanced at the passengers mirror but.....:)

cooltoy 08-06-2012 10:21 PM

Why don't you just use a small flat mirror, and create the angle you are describing by putting something in behind on one side to angle it away from you?

Magic Bus 08-06-2012 11:55 PM

cooltoy, yes I agree. On the 2nd page of this thread, I posted Amazon carries non convex small mirrors. Most likely have to use double sided tape to attach this small mirror to passenger rear view mirror any way. So Just add another layer of tape to one side to create the angle you want.

wstar 08-07-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1847404)
Even when the mirrors are positioned correctly, there is very little overlap between each one. I also tend to set far back and the b-pillar does block a lot. You can't tell if someone from the far right/left lane is switching over at the same time as you. The worst is looking towards the passenger b-pillar while changing lanes.

That is the general problem with properly-adjusted mirrors on the Z. Basically, you can see one lane over in either direction fine, but there's blindspots further out for cars that are two lanes away (e.g. the guy trying to merge into the same lane as you from slightly behind, in your pic).

I still use the properly-adjusted mirror setup though. Every setup has its disadvantages (the ones that achieve a really full view also tend to distort and/or miniaturize everything). You just have to be conscious of the two-lanes-over problem, and work on your situational awareness.

As Spohn noted earlier in this thread, driving faster helps a lot because then with the rare exception of other fast drivers, everything that might be in a blind spot slightly to the rear is something you just recently saw ahead of yourself, and you already know where they are and what they're doing in your mental map of the road.

RiCharlie 08-07-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1856914)
Why don't you just use a small flat mirror, and create the angle you are describing by putting something in behind on one side to angle it away from you?

Thats is exactly what I am trying to do...but how?? I am not the handiest guy on the planet..in fact if you remember the comedy Home Improvement with some buffoon who could not hang a picture straight..that was based on my life! :tup:

RiCharlie 08-07-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 1857054)
cooltoy, yes I agree. On the 2nd page of this thread, I posted Amazon carries non convex small mirrors. Most likely have to use double sided tape to attach this small mirror to passenger rear view mirror any way. So Just add another layer of tape to one side to create the angle you want.

Yes I saw them but I was hoping for some ready made thing that attached to the mirror with about a 20-30 degree slant..something that looks professional.. Guess I will have to try to do this myself..but no idea as to the best way to proceed and layer after layer of tape just doesnt seem like something that would last or look very good...

Anybody got any other ideas as to how to mount a mirror at an angle on the passengers side in a way that would look professional?

cooltoy 08-07-2012 01:08 PM

Walk around the old hardware store and find a plastic angled piece that is used for a totally different purpose (for example a door jam or a door molding piece) and see if you can make it work.

I always find other uses for stuff they sell.

I have a cement edge in the garage that is below the wall and at the right height for my wife to smack her door when she gets out. I wanted to put a piece of rubber there, but could not find anything.
Ended up buying a plastic/rubber transition piece for carpeting. Works great.

http://www.kofflersales.com/images%5...ts%5C184L5.jpg

cooltoy 08-07-2012 01:15 PM

Maybe these and cut them off?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Global-Black-...ndg~~60_35.JPG

DLSTR 08-07-2012 02:45 PM

Aspheric mirror.....standard on the Euro model Z
 
BMW E39 Aspheric (Wide-Angle) Mirrors + Heating Info

Im posting this as an example as I cannot find the actual aspheric Z mirrors online. I am ordering 1 for my Z and will post up the results. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my GTI after getting the factory euro aspheric mirror for less than 40euro's! (drivers side)
I can drive/merge etc with ease.
I drove to the dealer I use here in my area in Germany and sure enough there they are on the new Z coupe on the lot. More to follow, and yes I adjust according to the linked article. Im sorry but this car has blind spots no matter and IM RELIGOUS about this.
The GTI was not too bad but the factory aspheric opens up a WHOLE new world across additional lane(s).
Again Im amazed at what is on the euro models and what crap is on a US model. SAD!

cooltoy 08-07-2012 03:39 PM

I think this is what you need RiCharlie. Angled and everything.

MI-003 Pilot Slim Blind-Spot Mirror 2.25 X 1.25 for 09-up Nissan 370z at Andy's Auto Sport

http://www.andysautosport.com/images...rts/mi-003.jpg

RiCharlie 08-08-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 1857992)
BMW E39 Aspheric (Wide-Angle) Mirrors + Heating Info

Im posting this as an example as I cannot find the actual aspheric Z mirrors online. I am ordering 1 for my Z and will post up the results. I can tell you they made a huge difference on my GTI after getting the factory euro aspheric mirror for less than 40euro's! (drivers side)
I can drive/merge etc with ease.
I drove to the dealer I use here in my area in Germany and sure enough there they are on the new Z coupe on the lot. More to follow, and yes I adjust according to the linked article. Im sorry but this car has blind spots no matter and IM RELIGOUS about this.
The GTI was not too bad but the factory aspheric opens up a WHOLE new world across additional lane(s).
Again Im amazed at what is on the euro models and what crap is on a US model. SAD!

Sounds interesting but I guess I will have to drive to Germany..:icon18:
If you find something for the Z please let me know..

RiCharlie 08-08-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1858087)

Yes I already have those..the mirror is curved so as you can tell the image on the passengers side is very small.. I would have to remove that mirror and put a flat one in..That is a possibility

RiCharlie 08-08-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1857876)


Sounds like a good idea..or i should say Looks like a good idea..

DLSTR 08-08-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1858836)
Sounds interesting but I guess I will have to drive to Germany..:icon18:
If you find something for the Z please let me know..

I will and when I order I will give you the data and price. If it can be ordered from Nissan then any dealer should be able to access it.
The German model has 1 aspheric on the drivers side. Was the same for my GTI>

cavemancan 08-08-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1844033)
Side mirror placement helps, as does a back up cam. Check out this article from Car and Driver:
How To: Adjust Your Mirrors to Avoid Blind Spots - Feature - Car and Driver

+1 Rep :tiphat:

cooltoy 08-08-2012 07:39 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Went to a Ford dealer to look at new Escape, and look what it has.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1344472743

RiCharlie 08-09-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 1859821)
Went to a Ford dealer to look at new Escape, and look what it has.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1344472743

Yes this is the idea..too bad I cant get something like this on my Z..Generally speaking when I adjust the mirrors as several posters have suggested the visibility is okay..but I just want it to be as good as possible..

ddot196 08-09-2012 04:45 PM

Idk. I owned an eclipse before my 370 and I don't see what the problem is. I can see just fine with my mirrors. I guess the eclipse small mirrors and blindspots helped the transition to a worse viewing angle in mirrors etc on the z lol. I guess if you owned a large SUV or truck it would be harder to get used to. But that's natural anyways.

DLSTR 08-13-2012 08:39 AM

My factory Nissan aspheric - wide angle will be here this week. Install on 20 or 21 August. More to follow. Driver's side.

nightwish 08-16-2012 05:17 PM

Ultimate blind spot mirror sold by pepboys.

RiCharlie 08-17-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightwish (Post 1872578)
Ultimate blind spot mirror sold by pepboys.

THAT DID IT!!
I went to Pep Boys and found a much better selection of mirrors than I had found elsewhere..I found a slightly convex one that is much better than what I had been using and got two for about y7 dollars.. They look great and add about 25% more on visibility on the passengers side!

Problem solved! Thanks so much!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2