Originally Posted by Jessobear (Post 935157)

That has nothing to do with the bulbs, it's the design of the projector itself. All OEM HID's basically use the same 4300K capsule. The purple and blue you see if just a narrow band that is at the cutoff. If you go up close to any of these cars, they basically all look the same. Using a blue of purple high color temp HID capsule makes the entire beam that color. You still won't get that flicker and prism effect you see on other cars. You see that prism effect because as the car bounces up and down, you're seeing different bands of color. The color also never changes to white as you approach the car.

In some cases, changing the lens will make the cutoff much more colorful. For example, a Celica with one of the later factory HID options is not that colorful. A few people took apart the lights and swapped in lenses from an Acura TSX. With no other changes (and an OEM Denso 4300K capsule), the car instantly had intense bands of blue and purple at the cutoff.

Originally Posted by Z_you_Later (Post 935140)

I noticed the same problem tonight when I finally got to see them at night and the horizon line and beam pattern is horrible .. The high beams are even worse .. I thought I installed them wrong at first until I saw this post .. I feel like I wasted money on these now and wish I spent the money on another brand ... I will stick with these for a little while until I find a brand I really like and trust .. Thanks for the follow up bro ..

Originally Posted by RockStarKick (Post 935453)

I installed the RIGG bulbs and the beam pattern is up to par with the stock oem
bulbs. From what I understand the RIGG bulb is used in oem applications, but they are 6000K.

They are not as blue as the ijdmtoy bulbs, more of a crystal white. No yellowish
tint like the stock bulbs. Plus, these bulbs are the only set that have worked for me ... I will get some pics tonight after I install my K&N drop in filters...

Originally Posted by Jessobear (Post 935157)

That has nothing to do with the bulbs, it's the design of the projector itself. All OEM HID's basically use the same 4300K capsule. The purple and blue you see if just a narrow band that is at the cutoff. If you go up close to any of these cars, they basically all look the same. Using a blue of purple high color temp HID capsule makes the entire beam that color. You still won't get that flicker and prism effect you see on other cars. You see that prism effect because as the car bounces up and down, you're seeing different bands of color. The color also never changes to white as you approach the car.

In some cases, changing the lens will make the cutoff much more colorful. For example, a Celica with one of the later factory HID options is not that colorful. A few people took apart the lights and swapped in lenses from an Acura TSX. With no other changes (and an OEM Denso 4300K capsule), the car instantly had intense bands of blue and purple at the cutoff.

Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 935861)

:iagree::tup:

So you guys that have bulbs that aren't getting the flicker problem... care to share where they come from?

I don't mind the problem enough to buy a new set of bulbs... maybe when these start to turn funky colors I'll get them.

Originally Posted by Falcor (Post 936281)

Yeah these ijdm bulbs suck. Please post pics of your Riggs when you get them installed. I have phillips 6000k ds2s in my GSXR and those look great, I may just get another set of those. although they did cost almost $100 when i bought them.

Originally Posted by 1325 (Post 936387)

When my Philips Ultinon bulbs come in hopefully tomorrow, I'll report whether I experience issues some of you have faced.

Originally Posted by RockStarKick (Post 921111)

The output is hardly noticeable between stock 4300K and aftermarket 6000K,
the color is what we are trying to change.. I hate that yellowish look of the
stock headlight.

The 6000K has a tinge of blue in it.. You can go up in K (kelvin) and change
the color even more. But I personally think it looks tacky.

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 937448)

Incorrect.

4300K is well known to be the brightest (IE - light travels further)

To quote:
"4300K lamps are approx 10% brighter (measured in Lumens, not degrees K) than the 6000K"

10% is noticeable, sorry if you think otherwise.



The thing people don't notice is that they want the color changing effects from a far like most factory equipped BMW's have. BMW's equipped with 4300K HID's..... The cutoff and lens in the projector have a lot more to do with the color shift then the bulbs.

Before you guys mod your lights to be less efficient, please read up on the subject a little more.

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Originally Posted by RockStarKick (Post 937494)

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner, there is always someone trying be smarter than everybody else and post some sh!t that they read on the net..

Good job on the copy and paste..

Contribute something good to this thread or GTFO..

Oh, P.S,, I will have the pictures of the RIGG bulbs up later this evening.... I have them on my camera but forgot the proprietary Sony cable at home..

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 937601)

I think I contributed some sort of knowledge to this thread. I happen to read up on and do quite a bit of work with HID lights. Retrofitted TSX projectors/lenses into my WRX before I got my Z and did quite a bit of research on the HID subject and decided to pass along some knowledge about light output. Not everyone knows this, so what's the harm in saying something about it?

Just because it was copy and pasted doesn't mean it isn't factual...

You know, I must say this whole thread in general is funny. Everyone jumps on people who want to tint their headlights saying how it will decrease his light output and isn't safe. Yet, when someone wants to put light bulbs in their car to get a certain color that decreases the light output no one seems to care.