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spearfish25 09-17-2010 09:10 PM

Remote Hatch Opener
 
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I was browsing CourtesyParts.com and came across a rear 'trunk' opening switch. I've attached the schematic below. Interesting...anyone think they can install it?

SoCal 370Z 09-17-2010 09:29 PM

:tup: Great find = rep point!

kenchan 09-17-2010 09:33 PM

im kinda wondering why you would need this? it's not like my G35C where you can't open the trunk from the outside? :confused:

VaGntlmn 09-17-2010 09:44 PM

I'd like to be able to open the hatch from the inside w/o getting out of the car. Especially when somebody else wants to put something into or take something out of the hatch.
I wonder if you could use the empty center console switch?
Good find!!

kenchan 09-17-2010 09:46 PM

that's a motorized hatch like a minivan's rear gate? if so, that's kinda cool.

but that just looks like a lock release...(?)

spearfish25 09-17-2010 10:04 PM

Yes, it's an interior release. I've often had people ask me to 'pop the back' and there is no way to do it without getting out of the car. This would potentially solve that problem.

1slow370 09-18-2010 04:54 AM

if the doors are unlocked they could just push the back button couldn't they?

tranceformer 09-18-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 726425)
if the doors are unlocked they could just push the back button couldn't they?

There's some people out there that struggle to figure out things like that. I think this button would be pretty cool for when I have one of those people in my passenger seat.

kenchan 09-18-2010 10:55 AM

Yah... True. Do they have a red GTR trunk release button? :D

SoCal 370Z 09-18-2010 11:22 AM

Passengers or people who are unfamiliar with the Z's rubber booted horizontal button location and usage, have to find it first, so I'm onboard for the behind-the-glovebox-door-fascia button.

Jeffblue 09-18-2010 11:26 AM

i have the remote hatch release. i had them do whatever they had to do when i had my viper alarm installed. at first i was like:eekdance: now i never use it. you don't need the key to open the trunk as long as the doors are unlocked. but yes, its possible.

frost 09-18-2010 11:41 AM

This is one of those parts that should have come installed from the factory. Every time someone wants to put something in the hatch, it's a debacle.

SoCal 370Z 09-18-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 726626)
This is one of those parts that should have come installed from the factory. Every time someone wants to put something in the hatch, it's a debacle.

:iagree:

Jeffblue 09-18-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 726626)
This is one of those parts that should have come installed from the factory. Every time someone wants to put something in the hatch, it's a debacle.

I think the fog light should illuminate an up arrow with the words, 'open trunk here' then just when people are like 'can you open the trnk, you press the brake pedal, and BAM, take that.

Jeffblue 09-18-2010 12:19 PM

or you can tell whoever it is where thr trunk release button is as soon as they get in the car, and then when they ask you to open the trunk, you refuse to tell them citing the fact that they already know. or the fog light idea, but this time with the words 'this car should have come with a trunk release button from inside the car, but it didn't. the button is above the lisence plate... NO not the big one, the flat rectangular one.' I think that would fit

VaGntlmn 09-18-2010 09:41 PM

okay, I'll admit it. I'm lost.
I see a schematic illustrating an installed switch in the glove compartment.
How much does the switch cost, and more to the point, what does it take to install it? :confused:

Edit: Sunday, 9/19/10
I went to the 2010 Owners manual, and on page 3-19 FOR THE ROADSTER
it describes a "Trunk Release Power Cancel Switch".
"When you have to leave the vehicle with a valet
and want to keep your belongings safe in the
glove box and the trunk, push this switch to OFF
and lock the glove box with the mechanical key.
Then leave the vehicle and the Intelligent Key
with the valet and keep the mechanical key with
you."
Is this maybe not what we thought it was?

spearfish25 09-20-2010 10:42 AM

It's only $27 bucks. I may just give it a shot.

kenchan 09-20-2010 10:58 AM

is it pre wired? ... if so, why not just get a momentary switch (normally open) from radioshack for like $5 and install it in your glove box? much cheaper and quicker.

spearfish25 09-20-2010 12:20 PM

I think the issue is the type of switch. Someone on here mentioned the BCM needs diode switches or else the signals in the BCM crosstalk and you activate more than one thing at a time.

ChrisSlicks 10-01-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 728597)
I think the issue is the type of switch. Someone on here mentioned the BCM needs diode switches or else the signals in the BCM crosstalk and you activate more than one thing at a time.

The diode is nice but isn't strictly required if the component has it's own input.

So your choice is run wire the length of the car and hook it in parallel to the existing switch or run it back to the BCM.

Mt Tam I am 10-01-2010 08:51 AM

For me the best place to remotely open the hatch is on the key fob. It is when I am carrying stuff to my car I suddenly remember, "Oh yeah, it's this stupid car again."
I would use the unused convertible switch placement for the hard wired switch.

AllForTheCash 10-01-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 726194)
im kinda wondering why you would need this? it's not like my G35C where you can't open the trunk from the outside? :confused:

+1

MY1STZ 10-04-2010 09:18 PM

Is there a way to tie a switch/button to the button thats already there?

RCZ 10-04-2010 09:50 PM

I'd want one too actually. I've had this issue before.

bigaudiofanat 10-04-2010 11:26 PM

Who is first I will take the challenge. (^_^)

wilsonp 10-04-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 745764)
The diode is nice but isn't strictly required if the component has it's own input.

So your choice is run wire the length of the car and hook it in parallel to the existing switch or run it back to the BCM.

The basic issue is the BCM has a shared multiplexed input scheme for the hatch button, the turn signal, the headlight switches, etc. So the diode prevents the system from becoming confused when multiple switches are closed.

bigaudiofanat 10-04-2010 11:33 PM

I am thinking that you find the input into the actuator that opens the trunk see the power input that takes than run that to the new switch and power to the switch from the wire in the trunk that goes to the actuator.

ChrisSlicks 10-05-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 751141)
The basic issue is the BCM has a shared multiplexed input scheme for the hatch button, the turn signal, the headlight switches, etc. So the diode prevents the system from becoming confused when multiple switches are closed.

Hence the "if" it has it's own input. If it is part of a logic matrix like the headlight switches then the diodes would be required. I was the one that told Travis to add them for his headlight switches ;)

CBRich 10-06-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MY1STZ (Post 750940)
Is there a way to tie a switch/button to the button thats already there?

This may not be the most elegant solution but it is definitely the easiest. Remove your rear trunk paneling. Throw a multimeter on those wires as you hit the button and see whether it grounds or hooks to positive to release. Then just run the necessary one (ground or +12V) from a switch up front to the wire out back.

MY1STZ 10-06-2010 10:32 AM

Thank you all for your help. CBRich
"This may not be the most elegant solution but it is definitely the easiest. Remove your rear trunk paneling. Throw a multimeter on those wires as you hit the button and see whether it grounds or hooks to positive to release. Then just run the necessary one (ground or +12V) from a switch up front to the wire out back"

This is basicall what I wanted to do. The simpliset thing without messing with the BMC

wilsonp 10-06-2010 05:01 PM

From memory :), all the BCM switching is to ground.

ChrisSlicks 10-07-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 754013)
From memory :), all the BCM switching is to ground.

Yes it is all active low.

Dizzy 10-16-2010 09:26 AM

So I'm not crazy!! I have owned a few hatchbacks and never ever would I imagine someone making a car without an interior button for popping the hatch. To make it worse, nothing on the remote. I figured I had to be missing something, checked the manual - nope - nothig!

I've only had my Z a few weeks and when I crossed the boarder last week the customs officer asked me to open the rear. I went to open the door on the car and I thought he was gonna shoot me. "Freeze, what are you doing?". Uhhhhhh, I can't open the hatch from inside, I have to open it from outside. He watched me like a hawk as I got out of the car and opened it for him. In the end, he was cool about it, but his comment summerized it best.

"Beautiful car, but kinda ridiculous you can't open the hatch from inside. Never seen that before."

I could only agree. Major oversight.

370zproject 10-16-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WDRead (Post 726207)
I'd like to be able to open the hatch from the inside w/o getting out of the car. Especially when somebody else wants to put something into or take something out of the hatch.
I wonder if you could use the empty center console switch?
Good find!!

yea or like going to a car show... when the check you hatch .... lol

Carbon_z 10-29-2010 09:48 PM

Im going to print that out and take it to my local nissan next time I go. Im going to f**k with them so bad the next oil change I get. BWAHAHAHA

370zproject 10-30-2010 09:06 AM

so is there any way to get a exterior hatch release

VaGntlmn 10-30-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 788704)
so is there any way to get a exterior hatch release

I think the exterior/interior switch is a joke, but I don't get it :confused:
Bit I wanna know too!!

370zproject 10-30-2010 09:46 AM

i mean its silly my buddies rx8 has a trunk hatch from his fob.. and my grand mothers old focus has one from the fob :shakes head:

MY1STZ 10-30-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 788704)
so is there any way to get a exterior hatch release

There is always a way but who wants to take the chance and possibly make a mess of the BCM and void the warrenty. Thats where I am with this. I'm kinda hoping that it will be one of those things Nissan will add to the newer Z's then we could have it added to ours


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